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    Leadeye

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    I noted on this morning's news that the NBA is not requiring vaccination for players, but for staff and refs.

    I guess that choice comes with a price tag.
     

    NKBJ

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    Speculation on my part, been wondering if the coercive push for jabs could be related to future biological warfare. Perhaps others are thinking about it as well.

    "world leaders prepare for biological war"
     

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    I noted on this morning's news that the NBA is not requiring vaccination for players, but for staff and refs.

    I guess that choice comes with a price tag.
    The new serfs need to be faceless and masked while they serve their betters in the smart, vaccinated elite class

     

    Ingomike

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    The new serfs need to be faceless and masked while they serve their betters in the smart, vaccinated elite class


    And the elite despise those that have a strong free will and can think for themselves.

    The majority of those that didn't want masks or vaccines were free thinkers. The biggest joke of all throughout this ordeal has been the retort of the followers to the free thinkers that the free thinkers are the sheep.
     

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    Sounds like a lot of COVID cases were admitted to hospitals that should not have been. Must have been told to ramp up the admission numbers. Also, very revealing that there was only ~12% difference between the jabbed and unjabbed for outcomes. More and more :poop: revealed every day.
    Sounds like the problem isn't turning people away, the problem is admitting everyone with a cough and a mild wheeze so we can bill those sweet, sweet ronabux. This is on top of blanket testing of everyone who walks through the door, regardless of reason.

    In other news, new CDC info continues to document the collapsing effectiveness of the vaccine. We are now at the point where it offers, statistically, almost no benefit over being unvaccinated.


    6132 not fully vaccinated deaths out of 569,142 not fully vaccinated cases = 0.0107741126 ~= 1.08%


    616 fully vaccinated deaths out of 46,312 fully vaccinated cases = 0.0133010883 ~= 1.33%


    Vaccinated hospitalizations = 2976/46312 = 0.0642598031 ~= 6.4%


    Not vaccinated hospitalizations = 34972/569142 = 0.0614468797 ~= 6.2%
     

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    Sounds like the problem isn't turning people away, the problem is admitting everyone with a cough and a mild wheeze so we can bill those sweet, sweet ronabux. This is on top of blanket testing of everyone who walks through the door, regardless of reason.

    In other news, new CDC info continues to document the collapsing effectiveness of the vaccine. We are now at the point where it offers, statistically, almost no benefit over being unvaccinated.


    6132 not fully vaccinated deaths out of 569,142 not fully vaccinated cases = 0.0107741126 ~= 1.08%


    616 fully vaccinated deaths out of 46,312 fully vaccinated cases = 0.0133010883 ~= 1.33%


    Vaccinated hospitalizations = 2976/46312 = 0.0642598031 ~= 6.4%


    Not vaccinated hospitalizations = 34972/569142 = 0.0614468797 ~= 6.2%

    Has anyone ever heard of someone dying from covid at home? I haven't, everyone I have heard of died in a hospital. (I know not a single person that has died, even tangentially, from wuwho flu.)
     

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    Sounds like the problem isn't turning people away, the problem is admitting everyone with a cough and a mild wheeze so we can bill those sweet, sweet ronabux. This is on top of blanket testing of everyone who walks through the door, regardless of reason.

    In other news, new CDC info continues to document the collapsing effectiveness of the vaccine. We are now at the point where it offers, statistically, almost no benefit over being unvaccinated.


    6132 not fully vaccinated deaths out of 569,142 not fully vaccinated cases = 0.0107741126 ~= 1.08%


    616 fully vaccinated deaths out of 46,312 fully vaccinated cases = 0.0133010883 ~= 1.33%


    Vaccinated hospitalizations = 2976/46312 = 0.0642598031 ~= 6.4%


    Not vaccinated hospitalizations = 34972/569142 = 0.0614468797 ~= 6.2%
    But that means there are 12.3x more infections among the unvaccinated. I’d say that’s proof the vaccine is pretty effective. Unless there are 12.3x more unvaccinated Americans...which there aren’t.
     

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    But that means there are 12.3x more infections among the unvaccinated. I’d say that’s proof the vaccine is pretty effective. Unless there are 12.3x more unvaccinated Americans...which there aren’t.
    If the vaccine works, why are the death and hospitalization proportions the exact same? There is no statistical difference once infected, which the vaccine clearly does not prevent.
     

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    If the vaccine works, why are the death and hospitalization proportions the exact same? There is no statistical difference once infected, which the vaccine clearly does not prevent.
    The numbers you posted show 12.3x more Covid cases among the unvaccinated. Why is that? Random chance doesn’t explain it.
     

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    Has anyone ever heard of someone dying from covid at home? I haven't, everyone I have heard of died in a hospital. (I know not a single person that has died, even tangentially, from wuwho flu.)
    Coworkers wife died last week at home in bed
     

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    Has anyone ever heard of someone dying from covid at home? I haven't, everyone I have heard of died in a hospital. (I know not a single person that has died, even tangentially, from wuwho flu.)
    Well if you die at home from any cause, they just mark it covid and call it a day. Fell off a ladder in the backyard? Probably disoriented from covid.
     

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    The numbers you posted show 12.3x more Covid cases among the unvaccinated. Why is that? Random chance doesn’t explain it.
    But they're still no more likely to die when they get infected. So what?

    You don't think we clearly have a massive problem when the statistics show vaccines aren't any better at saving you from death or hospitalization?

    Also it's been well documented that CDC is working very hard to suppress data collection on breakthrough cases and has imposed a much more stringent standard for getting counted as one. There's also a question of where and what populations we're talking about, as there are plenty of states and localities where few people are getting vaxxed.
     

    jsharmon7

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    But they're still no more likely to die when they get infected. So what?

    You don't think we clearly have a massive problem when the statistics show vaccines aren't any better at saving you from death or hospitalization?

    Also it's been well documented that CDC is working very hard to suppress data collection on breakthrough cases and has imposed a much more stringent standard for getting counted as one. There's also a question of where and what populations we're talking about, as there are plenty of states and localities where few people are getting vaxxed.
    If you catch Covid, your odds of serious illness/death is the same. But being unvaccinated makes you 12.3x more likely to roll those dice. The conclusion you draw is the vaccine is useless?
     

    Ark

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    If you catch Covid, your odds of serious illness/death is the same. But being unvaccinated makes you 12.3x more likely to roll those dice. The conclusion you draw is the vaccine is useless?
    Why is anyone getting hospitalized or dying with the vaccine at all, let alone at proportions ditto those of the unvaccinated? What happened to "safe and effective"? What happened to "95% effective"?

    Could also be that the claimed vaccination numbers are completely false and far fewer Americans have actually gotten it.
     
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