To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

[BugI02]

So deaths were up 113 per 100,000, or.....0.11%. Total assigned virus deaths in 2020 were 375,000, CDC numbers here:

Oh, no. It wouldn't be presented that way

Instead the calculation will be 828.7 ÷ 715.2 = 1.1587, or 'Deaths rose by 15.9%'

 

[rhamersley]

Oh, no. It wouldn't be presented that way

Instead the calculation will be 828.7 ÷ 715.2 = 1.1587, or 'Deaths rose by 15.9%'

Figures don’t lie, but liars figure…

 

[rhamersley]

Biden Says New Lockdown Will Only Last For One Month Or Until The End Of The U.S., Whichever Comes First
August 4th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com

Biden Says New Lockdown Will Only Last For One Month Or Until The End Of The U.S., Whichever Comes First

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Many Americans are frightened of the Biden administration’s talk about a new lockdown, as they’re still reeling from the economic effects of the previous lockdowns, but President Biden is assuring people that this one will be quite temporary.“This lockdown will only last one...

babylonbee.com

 

[bobzilla]

Biden Says New Lockdown Will Only Last For One Month Or Until The End Of The U.S., Whichever Comes First
August 4th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com

Biden Says New Lockdown Will Only Last For One Month Or Until The End Of The U.S., Whichever Comes First

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Many Americans are frightened of the Biden administration’s talk about a new lockdown, as they’re still reeling from the economic effects of the previous lockdowns, but President Biden is assuring people that this one will be quite temporary.“This lockdown will only last one...

babylonbee.com

I would laugh if it wasn’t so close to the truth

 

[tim87tr]

Oh, no. It wouldn't be presented that way

Instead the calculation will be 828.7 ÷ 715.2 = 1.1587, or 'Deaths rose by 15.9%'

Haha yea I didn't mention that but it was glaring to me also. The CDC link I posted has total deaths and death rates, by age group, but never any percentages! They show the death rate per 100,000, but do not want to show the ultra low population death percentage of 0.1% average for all age groups, or miniscule percentages for age 45 and under. 54 to 64 is at the median 0.1% deaths by population, according to their death rate of 105 per 100,000, 45 to 54 is at 0.04%, stated as 44 of 100,000

It's on their own damn website, but using death rate instead of percentage of population confuses people. It's such a small percentage, even with all the built in manipulations of the data. It didn't take the four semesters of Calculus for me to figure that one out

Said this in the coercion thread:
Big picture...Everyone ask themselves what will this look like in retrospect in a short future time frame of a couple years. Will there be a bunch of Nobel peace prizes for scientific advancements, or trials for crimes against humanity? Most likely an increase in civil disobedience with the results of the emergency use only shot versus the control group outcome. Both sides will be unhappy.

I personally think it's a crime against humanity for young people to get a "vaccine" for a flu type virus they have virtually no chance of dying from. And it's horrific what they're doing to school age children with this mask mandate. That alone should be enough for anyone with children or grandchildren to stand up against the tyranny.

 

[Brimaster]

Yeah, this is getting out of hand. The company I presently work for sent out a memo that cloth masks are no longer acceptable when in the building only medical/surgical style masks can be used.

 

[idkfa]

Oh, no. It wouldn't be presented that way

Instead the calculation will be 828.7 ÷ 715.2 = 1.1587, or 'Deaths rose by 15.9%'

Frankly, neither of ways of representation are misleading -- it's just that one of them will be used to further the narrative.
Year-on-year, yes, the death rate has indeed increased by 16%.
The real question is "is that a lot?"
And therein lies the first rub -- the MSM will never talk about the reference point(s).
It turns out, as recently as 2003, the death rate was 843, and the further in the past you go, the higher it is.
The 16% jump is substantial, but it is hardly the end of the world.

In 1918, the death rate was 2,542, and increase of 266 or 11.6% compared to 1917 when the death rate was 2,276.
In absolute numbers, it is 135% higher than in 2020 vs. 2019, but the relative increase is 27% lower.

Another rub, however, is the life expectancy and median age: in 1918, it was 40 and 24.5, and in 2020 -- 80 and 38, respectively.

Finally, as early as March of 2020, we knew that only 12% patients who died with COVID in Italy did not have comorbidities and the median age of death was 80.

So to summarize, compared to the 1918 pandemic, we are seeing
1) a 1.6-2 times (depending on the metrics) older population that
2) has still a experienced a 135% smaller jump in death rate that
3) is predominantly affecting very old people at the age of life expectancy or older with severe underlying health conditions.

NCHS Data Visualization Gallery - Mortality Trends in the United States

These graphics of U.S. mortality trends since 1900 highlight the differences in age-adjusted death rates and life expectancy at birth by race and sex; childhood mortality rates by age group; and trends in age-adjusted death rates for five selected major causes of death.

www.cdc.gov

https://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/censr-4.pdf

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_20_marzo_eng.pdf

 

[idkfa]

Yeah, this is getting out of hand. The company I presently work for sent out a memo that cloth masks are no longer acceptable when in the building only medical/surgical style masks can be used.

They change these rules on almost a daily basis without any reason whatsoever. This is so tiring.

 

[nonobaddog]

Just pretend you could make all the rules.
Wouldn't it be fun to jerk people around and make them do silly crap?




(This is why I would make a bad leader.)

 

[jamil]

Yeah, this is getting out of hand. The company I presently work for sent out a memo that cloth masks are no longer acceptable when in the building only medical/surgical style masks can be used.

N95? Yeah. Okay. That'll work. Surgical? Nah.

 

[jwamplerusa]

How in the hell can people not recognize this ******** for what it is? How many examples of people screaming for masks yet not wearing them do we have to see before these ****ing morons wake up? Is it simply a case of ignoring reality because the fairy tale is easier to digest?

I have often wondered how during the 1930s the citizens of Germany could have been drawn to and allowed Hitler and the national socialist workers party to rise to power.

Sadly with what is going on in our nation today, I think I am beginning to see how that occurred. The majority of citizens simply heard only the things they wanted to hear and did not perform any critical thinking or analysis of what was actually occurring.

I believe it goes something like this; All it takes for evil to win, is for good men to do nothing.

I keep writing, calling, visiting, and voting. I'm starting to feel like the smallest salmon in the biggest river trying to swim up the deluge coming from the dam's sluice gates.

 

[wtburnette]

N95? Yeah. Okay. That'll work. Surgical? Nah.

Even N95 doesn't work If you don't use the correct procedures, which no one outside of a hospital setting does.

 

[ditcherman]

Well of course it's political. I just can't believe people willingly go to something like that.

That's why they're called "sheep"...

 

[jamil]

Just pretend you could make all the rules.
Wouldn't it be fun to jerk people around and make them do silly crap?




(This is why I would make a bad leader.)

New covid rules:

• All employees must wear underwear from the opposite sex on their heads. All underwear worn on face must be new and still have the tags on them. They must be tight-fitting and cover your entire face. Sheer is recommended. Ladies, good luck finding sheer men's underwear.
• Employees are no longer allowed to touch anything with their hands while on company property. New coffee makers will be installed in the break rooms to accommodate the rule changes. Doors and cupboards will be modified as well. We're still working out how keyboards can be modified.
• Sneezing or coughing is no longer allowed on company property. If you feel you must do either, please remove yourself from the property.
• All vehicles parked in the company parking lot must have a bra unless you can provide proof that the paint is wrapped.
• Only red tennis shoes are allowed on odd numbered floors.
• Only leather pumps with a minimum heel size if 3" are allowed on even numbered floors. Males who work on even numbered floors may go barefoot if their feet are too big to find shoes that fit.
• Everyone must have their hair at a length between 1 and 3 inches and cover their entire head. People who are bald must wear an approved toupee. See HR for the approved list of toupees. Management is excluded from this rule.

 

[jwamplerusa]

I wrote to the Indiana attorney general this morning challenging him to join with other constitutionalists states attorneys general and pushing back against the CDC's eviction moratorium. There is adequate information to believe the CDC does not have the authority and at least one supreme Court Justice appears to believe just that. Further, I do not believe the Constitution supports the federal government exercising the authority it has assumed.

I specifically asked Indiana's attorney general to attack the CDC eviction moratorium on the basis of exceeding the federal government's authority under the strictures of the 9th and 10th amendments.

Those who care about this nation remaining in existence under the ideals of the Constitution need to force this to the jury box, and the sooner the better.

The same needs to be said for election integrity. The sooner cases can be forced into the courts for adjudication with evidence in front of a jury of peers the sooner there will be hope of saving the union.

If these things do not get appropriately adjudicated according to the ideals of the Constitution of the United States of America, we are going to end up for the only option will be to use that last box.

 

[jamil]

I wrote to the Indiana attorney general this morning challenging him to join with other constitutionalists states attorneys general and pushing back against the CDC's eviction moratorium. There is adequate information to believe the CDC does not have the authority and at least one supreme Court Justice appears to believe just that. Further, I do not believe the Constitution supports the federal government exercising the authority it has assumed.

I specifically asked Indiana's attorney general to attack the CDC eviction moratorium on the basis of exceeding the federal government's authority under the strictures of the 9th and 10th amendments.

Those who care about this nation remaining in existence under the ideals of the Constitution need to force this to the jury box, and the sooner the better.

The same needs to be said for election integrity. The sooner cases can be forced into the courts for adjudication with evidence in front of a jury of peers the sooner there will be hope of saving the union.

If these things do not get appropriately adjudicated according to the ideals of the Constitution of the United States of America, we are going to end up for the only option will be to use that last box.

They don't have the authority. Congress did not grant them that authority. I really don't think the federal government has the authority to suspend that. What is giving them the authority is that they're just doing it.

 

[rhamersley]

All employees must wear underwear from the opposite sex on their heads. All underwear worn on face must be new and still have the tags on them. They must be tight-fitting and cover your entire face. Sheer is recommended. Ladies, good luck finding sheer men's underwear.

 

[rhamersley]

People who are bald must wear an approved toupee. See HR for the approved list of toupees.

 

[tim87tr]

I wrote to the Indiana attorney general this morning challenging him to join with other constitutionalists states attorneys general and pushing back against the CDC's eviction moratorium. There is adequate information to believe the CDC does not have the authority and at least one supreme Court Justice appears to believe just that. Further, I do not believe the Constitution supports the federal government exercising the authority it has assumed.

I specifically asked Indiana's attorney general to attack the CDC eviction moratorium on the basis of exceeding the federal government's authority under the strictures of the 9th and 10th amendments.

Those who care about this nation remaining in existence under the ideals of the Constitution need to force this to the jury box, and the sooner the better.

The same needs to be said for election integrity. The sooner cases can be forced into the courts for adjudication with evidence in front of a jury of peers the sooner there will be hope of saving the union.

If these things do not get appropriately adjudicated according to the ideals of the Constitution of the United States of America, we are going to end up for the only option will be to use that last box.

I'd watched this constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes and thought he said the moratoriums were overturned legally in June? I need to watch this video again, I recall him saying he's winning all of the "overreach" cases, or the defendant backs down. Glad you are addressing it. I believe it's what @jamil says, they're just doing it and not being challenged, as you are doing.


I have also thought a lot recently about what you mentioned with your post #2191 about 1930s Germany when Evil rose to power. It's definitely good vs evil at this point.

I'd posted in the "IN companies requiring vaccines" thread about forms available to remind employers they're liable for requiring the vaccine. If you want to take it, that's fine, but if not then they're on the hook. Call their bluff because if you sign your rights away with the shot form, they're not liable. Companies are on legal thin ice with all of this, IMO.

https://home.solari.com/employer-school-disclosure-form-for-covid-19-injections/

 

[idkfa]

And here's the Director of the NIH Francis Collins.