No. If you want to practice breaking the 180, use a blue gun.Do any of them have merit?
Not unless you're a super tactical SWAT operator and your kicking doors in with your team. Then there's a good chance you'll have someone behind you with a gun, but the muzzle should never be covering anything except the ground.Is there ever a reason to be forward of the firing line for any reason?
When we do 2 and 4 man bounding drills someone is always forward of the firing line.
Drills retrieving a wounded while guys cover from the rear, same deal. I could go on and on.
We are not SWAT, just a mutual aid group that trains for reality.
No. If you want to practice breaking the 180, use a blue gun.
My question to all the 360 degree range proponents;
Do you agree with this or not?
a screen shot from this thread,https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...hing_you_have_done_with_a_gun.html#post433395
I'll admit to not wanting to be the camera man. But I don't see a Gun pointed at him.
The OP specifically asked about drills. If you're doing drills in the Walmart parking lot with your gun out, you've got other problems and finding a berm isn't one of them.I know if I'm in my home, at Wal Mart, Walking to my car in Fishers, etc. I'm going to have a hard time finding the berm.
The 180 applies when there is a firing line or a berm.I also realize that no matter which direction I am facing, there are innocent bystanders "Down Range" of my muzzle. The best I can do is follow the four rules, Which include "Know your target, and what's beyond" and "Don't point my muzzle at anything I'm unwilling to destroy."
My question to all the 360 degree range proponents;
Do you agree with this or not?
ok, so now two guns are pointed to the targets on either side of him. Anything more constructive to add?
The OP specifically asked about drills. If you're doing drills in the Walmart parking lot with your gun out, you've got other problems and finding a berm isn't one of them.
The 180 applies when there is a firing line or a berm.
The 180 doesn't matter when the gun is holstered, only where it is pointed when it is out of the holster. If you always have innocent bystanders in front of your muzzle, you are doing something wrong.
This first line pretty much sums it up. Range rules do not automatically imply safety.Lars said:I've learned to separate "Range Rules" from "Firearms Safety"
This Doesn't specify training or otherwise. Did you see me Mention "drills" anywhere?Lars said:I know if I'm in my home, at Wal Mart, Walking to my car in Fishers, etc. I'm going to have a hard time finding the berm.
Stand in your front yard. Point your finger in ANY DIRECTION that isn't straight up, or straight down. (Ie a direction you might have to shoot at a human being who is intending to do harm to your or your family) There's a > 90% chance that within the range of a defensive pistol round, an innocent person is somewhere within that line. This is Why the rule "Know your target and what's beyond" is so important.Lars said:I also realize that no matter which direction I am facing, there are innocent bystanders "Down Range" of my muzzle. The best I can do is follow the four rules, Which include "Know your target, and what's beyond" and "Don't point my muzzle at anything I'm unwilling to destroy."