Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[jamil]

Oh he said it!!!

Doesn't sound like it's the context presented.

 

[JettaKnight]

Oh he said it!!!

Doubling down, huh?

How about you provide the whole speech instead of a cherry-picked soundbite?

 

[smokingman]

Doubling down, huh?

How about you provide the whole speech instead of a cherry-picked soundbite?

He has flipped back and forth on rather he would accept anything less than NATO and EU admission since he was elected. That and the fact Ukraine first applied for NATO membership in 2008. Why do you think Ukraine is not already in NATO,and are you for the most corrupt country in Europe being in NATO?

 

[JettaKnight]

He has flipped back and forth on rather he would accept anything less than NATO and EU admission since he was elected. That and the fact Ukraine first applied for NATO membership in 2008. Why do you think Ukraine is not already in NATO,and are you for the most corrupt country in Europe being in NATO?

It has nothing to do with him, and everything to do with someone trying to pull a fast one on fellow INGOers by posting a clearly out of context soundbite that supports their views.

EDIT:
I am not in favor of bringing Ukraine into NATO:

My thought on this is that this gives Ukraine some bargaining leverage.

"We want to be in NATO. But if Russia completely leaves, we will agree to stay out of NATO and be a buffer state."


I can certainly see bring Ukraine into NATO just upping the tension.

 

[Route 45]

It has nothing to do with him, and everything to do with someone trying to pull a fast one on fellow INGOers by posting a clearly out of context soundbite that supports their views.

This is the same poster who breathlessly posted about NATO forces being surrounded and captured in Mariupol last year in the original thread. His propaganda can be safely dismissed until verified by credible sources.

 

[Route 45]

 

[Route 45]

A Russian oil depot caught fire hundreds of miles from Ukraine, the possible result of a daring Ukrainian drone attack

A Russian oil depot roughly 300 miles from Ukrainian-held territory was set ablaze amid a night of drone chaos in several Russian locations.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[smokingman]

Yesterday.
“I’ve worked the Ukraine issue now for about nine years, and in our engagement over that entire period corruption was the number one issue we’ve raised with Ukrainian officials,” Under Secretary of Defense Colin Kahl said during a hearing about Ukraine assistance held by the House Armed Services Committee on Tuesday.

Pentagon: Nothing to see here and empty your pockets before leaving.

Pentagon Investigates, Gives All Clear over Ukraine Fraud Allegations

There is no evidence any of the billions of U.S. dollars spent on aid sent to Ukraine has been lost to corruption, the Pentagon said.

www.breitbart.com

Ukraine Corruption Scandal Deepens as Zelensky Sacks String of Officials

A string of senior Ukraine government officials were sacked or resigned amidst a flurry of fresh corruption claims Tuesday.

www.breitbart.com

Defence Minister Vyacheslav Shapovalov
Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration Kyrylo Tymoshenko
Deputy Prosecutor General Oleksiy Simonenko
Commander of the joint forces of Ukraine Eduard Moskolyov
and around 30 others sacked by Zelenski in the last 9 days.

Pentagon: What?

I am going with the conspiracy theory the Pentagon found loads of corruption,graft,and theft. Then told Zelenski,but not US tax payers.

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[BugI02]

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He was talking about what will happen if Ukraine falls and Russia marches towards Poland. And he is right.

But you knew that.

The Domino Theory? Really!

58220 Americans who died and over 150000 who were wounded call BULL****, not to mention their relatives and family

 

[nra4ever]

Second front could open

 

[Brad69]

So Russia will invade Poland if Ukraine falls?

 

[oze]

Oh he said it!!!

Right. He said that if Russia wins in Ukraine and then proceeds to attack a NATO country, the US will be obligated to send its sons and daughters to fight and die. Context, context, context.

 

[oze]

So Russia will invade Poland if Ukraine falls?

Nah, just the Baltic states for now. I think that at this point, Poland could handle Russia all by itself.

 

[JettaKnight]

Nah, just the Baltic states for now. I think that at this point, Poland could handle Russia all by itself.

That would suck - that's the only source of my favorite liqueur - Black Balsam.


Time to shore up the Suwalki Gap.

Although, realistically Moldova will be next.

 

[Route 45]

Although, realistically Moldova will be next.

Suspended flights, false flag claims, and an alleged coup plan What we know about Moscow’s designs in Moldova — Meduza

Wizz Air, one of Europe’s largest budget airlines, is suspending flights to and from Moldova beginning on March 14. The company’s press service told the news outlet RBC that the decision is “difficult, but it’s the responsible one” given “recent events” in Moldova and the “elevated risk” in the...

meduza.io

 

[BigRed]

The Domino Theory? Really!

58220 Americans who died and over 150000 who were wounded call BULL****, not to mention their relatives and family

AMEN!!!

 

[JettaKnight]

Suspended flights, false flag claims, and an alleged coup plan What we know about Moscow’s designs in Moldova — Meduza

Wizz Air, one of Europe’s largest budget airlines, is suspending flights to and from Moldova beginning on March 14. The company’s press service told the news outlet RBC that the decision is “difficult, but it’s the responsible one” given “recent events” in Moldova and the “elevated risk” in the...

meduza.io

Which is sad - I haven't been there either. And from what I've heard, tourists can really experience life behind the Iron Curtain.

 

[erasure]

Doesn't the domino theory kinda describe NATO creeping up to Russian borders?

Still to this day, Putin is saying, look; there was this other offer on the table. The best friend of the president looked Mikhail Gorbachev in the eye and said NATO will move not one inch eastward. And that's sort of factually accurate in a narrow sense, but it doesn't reflect the reality that we're creating.

 

[nra4ever]

Ukraine war - latest: Russia-based media claims Ukrainian recon group ' has entered Russian villages'; torture centres 'linked to Putin's forces' discovered; conflict to shift as temperature changes, UK intel says

Torture centres in formerly occupied city are linked to Moscow, human rights lawyers say. In Bakhmut, the situation is "critical" as Vladimir Putin's troops carry out "wave after wave" of attacks. Listen to Ukraine War Diaries while you scroll.

news.sky.com

 

[indyartisan]

American Commie Mercenary defects Ukraine for Russia.