I call BS!
Someone makes a call to 911 to report a crime in progress by an armed man all the while NO crimes are being committed.
A person in a secured storage facility getting his own property from his own rental unit completly visible to everyone. Like that is so uncommon?
911 caller comitted a crime of false reporting .
Police officer committed a crime by acting on known false information, trespassing and intimidating a citizen doing lawful activites!
911 calls don't give LEOs carte blanche to do what ever they want.
I think the OP should sue the 911 caller !
You act as if the sole purpose of the LEO's morning was to harass the public at a storage facility. Not realistic. He was responding to it as a felonious call from dispatch as he was trained to do. Call of burglary in progress, person moving quickly (albeit caused by weather), ladder on fence in sight. PC is justified to draw down on who he thinks is involved in felonious activity whether you agree with it or not as it is at the officers discretion in the line of duty to decide if he has a reasonable belief that a suspect has committed a crime. It would hold up in court 1000 times over, especially since no and no thing was hurt/damaged during the incident. The LEO even awaited backup before proceeding out of caution and safety for everyone. In the end the officer was nice and both parties talked openly in good conscience. I see no problem. We should be so lucky that we don't have Barney's walking up to 911 calls pulling out a wedgy with one hand and eating a donut with the other.
They don't have a blank check on what they do, but they do have department and state procedures to follow while responding to a 911 call.
The neighbors to the storage shed were trimming up bushes next to the fenced in complex. Had a ladder over the fence so they could trim the inside first. With permission of course. Actually, they were told to trim it by the guy that owns the complex. ANYway. At the same time, I pull in. There's no way they knew I was armed, just that someone had a ladder over the fence and I was in A unit getting stuff out.
Knowing that there have been multiple burglaries at this complex, yea, I'd probably called the police too.
Oh, and I'm not a cop, but I do believe that most LEO's are trained to approach a burglary in progress call with guns ready/drawn instead of walking up with their thumb in their butt going "Uhuh uhuh Whatcha doing?"
Knowing that there have been multiple burglaries at this complex, yea, I'd probably called the police too.
Oh, and I'm not a cop, but I do believe that most LEO's are trained to approach a burglary in progress call with guns ready/drawn instead of walking up with their thumb in their butt going "Uhuh uhuh Whatcha doing?"[/
I did not read any of that info in your posts.
But would not the vehicle present make the ladder seem useless?
Seems you didn't just pull in since you had to have the code to get in.
...Yes, the ladder WOULD seem useless, unless they used that first to gain entry, manipulated the automated gate, let me in, then left the ladder.
My problem is the LEOs are acting on a 911 call that was completly erroneous. From your statements you had done nothing illegal.
...As true as this statement is, all actions when the officer approached, including me being armed openly, sure probably seemed to the officer to be just what was called in. I may have not been doing anything illegal, but there's no way he could have known that without talking to me and me explaining the situation. Considering he was on the OTHER side of an 8ft chain link fence, I understand why he handled it the way he did. Except keeping the gun trained on me until backup arrived.
I would take great offense to being cuffed and detained if I was doing nothing ileagal because someone called in false information.
You don't seem to have had a problem with it but I don't think others should have to be subject to it.
...I, too, took great offense to being cuffed. However, being cuffed doesn't go on your record. Only if you go to the station does it count on your record. Had I been ARRESTED, I would have filed suit. They didn't, I didn't.
But you say that others here, and most likely yourself, shouldn't be subject to investigation of a felony should you be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just because you're a gun owner? Or you have money? Or what? No one here is above the law or the investigation of the law. It wasn't a man with a gun call. It was a burglary in progress call and I just happen to be open carrying. ARMED burglary is a VERY serious offense, and most armed burglars aren't too friendly if an officer interrupts them.
You have to give officers SOME leeway to do their jobs. Within the law of course. I'm not saying let them throw you in cuffs every time you get pulled over speeding, or let them search your car. I'm just saying that if you're in a similar situation, and they need to put you in cuffs until they find out you're NOT a felon, that's better than smarting off or refusing and going to jail.
When you compare those same views in the OC debate it makes them look kind of silly:
With all the murders committed with a firearm do you think the police should take the same actions against every person with a gun they see or hear about?
Or should it be based on 911 calls from people who are scared about seeing a person armed?
...No, I don't think that's a good comparison. I've had two officers approach me for OCing, but was never cuffed. This time I was OCing, AND it looked like I was robbing a storage unit. See the difference in situations here?
Problem to me is there was no real "burglary in progress", only in the 911 callers and LEOs mind.
...If it was your storage unit, wouldn't you want people watching over it so that it DIDN"T get burglarized? No, there wasn't one, but they didn't realize that. I'm glad they were concerned citizens and not complacent sheep.
I would like to hear the 911 call.
So we get to talking and I'm telling him about my gun and has he heard of INGO? No? You should check it out. You'd like it.
Thanks for that! I think I need to change my boxers now though! 
