Official 2024 POTUS Election Thread

[KLB]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I’m not sure that he’s officially announced but it’s at least been speculated he’s going to primary Biden. I can’t see myself ever voting for a democrat as I’m sure there are many other issues I’d vehemently disagree with him on but if he were to get elected in 2024, it might be a step in the right direction (at least for a democrat).

 

[JEBland]

How the ‘No Labels’ Gambit Could Wreck the 2024 Election

The group says it doesn’t want its (as-yet-unchosen) third-party candidate to be a spoiler—but it also doesn’t say who all its funders are.

www.thebulwark.com

They seem a little nervous.

 

[BugI02]

I wonder what a Trump/Sanders ticket could do as a third party draw

 

[Twangbanger]

I wonder what a Trump/Sanders ticket could do as a third party draw

Identity Politics was invented precisely to foil that plan. I always thought Sanders could have put up a better fight to Trump than Hillary. But we see what happened to him.

The binary-halves in America aren't Left and Right; it's people content with the status quo, and those who aren't. The Centrist Oligarchy depends on the former group out-numbering the latter. The Left and Right divisions of the "mal-contents" were traditionally divided and kept at each others' throats by the usual things like Abortion and Gun Control. I think Identity Politics was invented, at least in part, because those usual subjects weren't doing the job well enough anymore. Some on the Left and Right were starting to figure out what they had in common, and what the real score was.

Expanding further, most on the Right treat Identity Politics as a kook Left-fringe idea. But the truth is, it's a centrist trick to fool the leftist kooks and fringers into supporting the globalist/capitalist status-quo. It's how they got Joe Biden. It's a sadistic secure-top execution of the Far Left's economic priorities; they will continue to be defeated, knowing (or perhaps not?) that the thing they had to defeat in order to enact their agenda, was hidden and untouchable inside them - the Civil Rights Movement. They could potentially unite the Trumpers and Kookers in overthrowing race-to-the-bottom Capitalism; but to do it, they'd have to disavow the out-of-control Civil Rights Establishment. And in doing so, they'd have to admit class is more consequential than race, and therefore, white people really do have valid a point on this issue. As long as Civil Rights trumps everything else, including the Constitution, everybody who's unhappy with the modern American Capitalist System will keep executing each other in a circular firing squad. And they'll both keep getting more of the same: Rules-Based Trade Agreements, printing-press work visas, invisible borders, and increasing corporate control of banking, policy, and dissemination of information.

It's inevitable that the growing discontent over economic equality has to vent itself into politics, somehow. The choices of how this head of steam gets let-off are: 1) Class Struggle, and 2) Race Struggle. Give a choice between those two, the globalist capitalist oligarchy will opt for "Race Struggle" every time, because it's the least injurious to their interests. They can cut deals with the race peddlers in ways which don't hurt their bottom line. BLM Activists usually grew up poor and can be bought-off with a nice house. They aren't really asking for control of everything in the world; they just want loose pants, tight braids, and a warm place to munch carpet. Elizabeth Warren is not so easy for corporations to shake off their leg, because she is entirely motivated by power, and wants the keys (and backdoor access codes) to the entire Potomac + Wall Street castle.

 

[BugI02]

I think you might be underestimating how much you could unite parts of the left and right if they saw a real chance to break that status quo ante once and for all

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

 

[Twangbanger]

I would like to think you're right.

But a Trump/Sanders ticket is kinda like two roid-rager dudes on the Joe Rogan podcast surmising whether an animal with the head of a bear and the body of a Gorilla could possibly be beaten by any other creature in a fight. If you can't create that creature, it's totally academic.

If Bernie partnered with Trump, he'd probably lose a third of his support overnight, minimum...and that's just the first night.

The Utopia they seek, doesn't have any Trumpers in it.

 

[DragonGunner]

I would like to think you're right.

But a Trump/Sanders ticket is kinda like two roid-rager dudes on the Joe Rogan podcast surmising whether an animal with the head of a bear and the body of a Gorilla could possibly be beaten by any other creature in a fight. If you can't create that creature, it's totally academic.

If Bernie partnered with Trump, he'd probably lose a third of his support overnight, minimum...and that's just the first night.

The Utopia they seek, doesn't have any Trumpers in it.

Which is strange for Bernie supporters to take on Trump since Trump gave so many free handouts during covid. Dang, people were making more $ not working than working, didn’t have to pay rent…..Trump did more for Bernie supporters than Bernie could have ever dreamed of. I don’t know, I think every Bernie socialist would jump on that band wagon.

 

[KLB]

Which is strange for Bernie supporters to take on Trump since Trump gave so many free handouts during covid. Dang, people were making more $ not working than working, didn’t have to pay rent…..Trump did more for Bernie supporters than Bernie could have ever dreamed of. I don’t know, I think every Bernie socialist would jump on that band wagon.

Orange man bad

 

[Jaybird1980]

I’m not sure that he’s officially announced but it’s at least been speculated he’s going to primary Biden. I can’t see myself ever voting for a democrat as I’m sure there are many other issues I’d vehemently disagree with him on but if he were to get elected in 2024, it might be a step in the right direction (at least for a democrat).

"Free and Fair Press"

 

[Twangbanger]

Which is strange for Bernie supporters to take on Trump since Trump gave so many free handouts during covid. Dang, people were making more $ not working than working, didn’t have to pay rent…..Trump did more for Bernie supporters than Bernie could have ever dreamed of. I don’t know, I think every Bernie socialist would jump on that band wagon.

But this is where Identity Politics defeats economics. The Trumpers and Sander-nistas have a somewhat common gripe about capitalism. So to prevent this marriage from consummating, the Chamber of Commerce signs onto Burn Loot Murder Identity Politics like donkey kong. They amplify the narrative that Trump in particular (and Republicans by association) are Racist Hate Incarnate. It shifts emphasis off his actual policies (which are of critical danger to the CoC), and converts him into a non-negotiable locus of evil which can never be joined, bargained with, or even thoughtfully considered. The Bernie supporters have essentially allowed themselves to be brainwashed into "Knights Who Say Ni" on any topic which tangentially touches on race. Joe Biden kicks the socialist can down the road some more, and tells the Sander-nistas The Revolution Will Be Televised at a later date.

In this way, the anti-globalists are kept pacified and divided.

(Which is precisely why the sh.thole countries type quips damage Trump so badly - by lending credence to the racism crap. His hero-worshipers are right; personality does trump policy - just not how they thought).

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

For all that’s good and holy, please stop it. If Republicans don’t insist on repenting from this we will be forced to endure it again, some day.

 

[jamil]

For all that’s good and holy, please stop it. If Republicans don’t insist on repenting from this we will be forced to endure it again, some day.

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At least some Trumpers have a limit. That's actually encouraging. But, I'm not sure Trump can not keep saying it.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

At least some Trumpers have a limit. That's actually encouraging. But, I'm not sure Trump can not keep saying it.

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Did Trump say that about Moderna?

 

[oze]

For all that’s good and holy, please stop it. If Republicans don’t insist on repenting from this we will be forced to endure it again, some day.

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I'm bookmarking this as the moment Trump jumped the shark.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I'm bookmarking this as the moment Trump jumped the shark.

The problem is—way too many republicans lined up and got their shots and dutifully wore their masks without question. Most don’t care.

 

[foszoe]

ABC News cuts Robert F. Kennedy Jr. vaccine remarks out of interview

An ABC News host admitted the network edited statements Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made about the COVID-19 vaccine out of an exclusive interview it conducted with the longshot Democratic presidential ca…

nypost.com

Ridiculous. If you don't like the possible answers, don't ask the question. Editorial judgment be damned.

 

[jamil]

ABC News cuts Robert F. Kennedy Jr. vaccine remarks out of interview

An ABC News host admitted the network edited statements Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made about the COVID-19 vaccine out of an exclusive interview it conducted with the longshot Democratic presidential ca…

nypost.com

Ridiculous. If you don't like the possible answers, don't ask the question. Editorial judgment be damned.

Of course they edited the remarks out. They know what the administration wants. They know what their biggest advertiser wants.

If he should make the debate stage and says anything like that about covid shots, will they bleep him out? Fair chance they would.

 

[BigRed]

For all that’s good and holy, please stop it. If Republicans don’t insist on repenting from this we will be forced to endure it again, some day.

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trump can go **** himself.

 

[jamil]

trump can go **** himself.

I guess he might be tempted to do that, if he could dress himself up as a horse faced porn star.