NASCAR 2024…..

[Hatin Since 87]

Yeah everyone wants what the Superbowl has! $$$$

True. Sadly, in the early 2000s Nascar was getting almost 20 million viewers for the Daytona 500. Then, like you said, they started the chase, then went to the car of tomorrow, then gen 6 cars… changed a bunch of track configurations, tightened up rules, and drivers retired. Now theyre excited and act like 9 million viewers is proof that theyre the bees knees in the sporting industry.

I love racing. I dont want Nascar to fail. I want it to struggle and them to open their eyes and return it to RACING. Not stage racing. Not overbearing rulebooks. Not playoffs and all these other gimmicks. Drop the green and run 500 miles. Whoever averages the best over 36 races deserves to be champion. Fans now say they didnt like knowing who the champion was 3 weeks before the season ended. If thats the case, that driver deserved it, because he dominated all year long. Thats racing.

My favorite tony stewart interview is “thats racing. If you want passing we will go to 465 and ill let you watch passing all day. What we do is race”

 

[***Ironhead***]

The stats say the “negative people” are being drowned out.

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They must have loved the 2008 brickyard.

 

[Ingomike]

Baseball never bounced back after the strike. NBA and NFL saw gains in viewers.

I do believe a significant chunk of interest of younger fans in these two sports is driven by fantasy and gambling. Saw a recent study that video games, gambling apps, and porn were the top interests of 15-25 males.

For most of us it was girls, cars, and drinking…

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I do believe a significant chunk of interest of younger fans in these two sports is driven by fantasy and gambling. Saw a recent study that video games, gambling apps, and porn were the top interests of 15-25 males.

For most of us it was girls, cars, and drinking…

Those are my top interests too, but im married so i watch sports and work.

No but youre exactly right. Growing up we all wanted nice cars to get girls. A lot of fans started watching because of the love of cars.

Some of us started watching because its what we did with our dad as kids. Now that they have alienated a lot of fans, the dads arent watching anymore, so that eliminates the fans that would continue watching after their dads are gone as that memory.

Theyre trying to appeal to the east coast market. Hence the LA colliseum. They talked all that trash about the fanbase thinking the east coast would gobble it up. Now they dont have either. Serves em right.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

On a better note. Floracing is now available on roku.

 

[Ingomike]

The stats say the “negative people” are being drowned out.

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Gee? Think if I posted a poll on INGO asking if guns were good 85% would say yes? Talk about cherry picking. The guy is a nascar writer, all his followers are nascar fans.

And if you insist on yapping and calling out others that have different opinions names like “haters” and “Debbie doubter’s”, I will ask the mods for permission to respond, just like last season when you kept initiating it and the mods said have at it...

 

[JCSR]

Gee? Think if I posted a poll on INGO asking if guns were good 85% would say yes? Talk about cherry picking. The guy is a nascar writer, all his followers are nascar fans.

And if you insist on yapping and calling out others that have different opinions names like “haters” and “Debbie doubter’s”, I will ask the mods for permission to respond, just like last season when you kept initiating it and the mods said have at it...

Please let me know if the mods turn us loose. I can dump sh*t on this thread 24/7 and take anything greg can throw at me. His grade school name-calling doesn't effect me at all.

 

[greg]

They must have loved the 2008 brickyard.

That was a Goodyear problem in 2008 and from that year on Goodyear wouldn’t bring a tire that would race…. In 2008 Brickyard tires wore out every 10-15 laps no matter what anyone done!

What we seen yesterday wasn’t a Goodyear problem they used the same tire last fall without a problem.The last green flag run yesterday had some teams going almost 75 laps on the last set of tires!

The resins applied was the issue it wasn’t PJ1 like in the past.

 

[greg]

Gee? Think if I posted a poll on INGO asking if guns were good 85% would say yes? Talk about cherry picking. The guy is a nascar writer, all his followers are nascar fans.

And if you insist on yapping and calling out others that have different opinions names like “haters” and “Debbie doubter’s”, I will ask the mods for permission to respond, just like last season when you kept initiating it and the mods said have at it...

Gee,Wouldn’t a poll about a Nascar race include nascar fans?You notice not everyone voted yes….. sorry the poll doesn’t align with your personal beliefs sometimes that happens sorta like the bicyclists thread!

 

[Hoosier Carry]

For most of us it was girls, cars, and drinking

In no particular order…

Now it’s AI girls, squatted trucks, and bud light? No bud light cars on the track please!

 

[greg]

Good read…

 

[Hatin Since 87]

In no particular order…

Now it’s AI girls, squatted trucks, and bud light? No bud light cars on the track please!

Bud light seems like the perfect beer for nascar. Both went woke and lost half their supporters

 

[Ingomike]

And I read on INGO that nascar was a perfect utopia for drivers and cars. LOL

Beating a dead horse (power) until NASCAR budges

The drivers are starting to get louder over what the NextGen needs

sportsnaut.com

 

[Ingomike]

Top ten drivers of all time? Agree? Who was left off? This is their list, not mine

1. Jimmie Johnson​

2. Dale Earnhardt, Sr.​

3. Jeff Gordon​

4. Richard Petty​

5. David Pearson​

6. Cale Yarborough​

7. Darrell Waltrip​

8. Bobby Allison​

9. Kyle Busch​

10. Tony Stewart​

10 best NASCAR drivers of all time - Sportsnaut

NASCAR has been around for 75 years and there have been many outstanding drivers. Check out the 10 best NASCAR drivers in history.

sportsnaut.com

 

[Ingomike]

This is a list of the best 75 cup races. Which is your favorite?

75 best NASCAR races list provides fans with unique ways to watch them

In honor of its 75th anniversary, NASCAR released its list of the 75 best NASCAR races ever with videos for fans to remember some all-time races.

sportsnaut.com

 

[greg]

What would be involved in adding more horsepower too Cup cars?​

NASCAR's horsepower debate: Why drivers wants an increase, and why it's unlikely | FOX Sports

As NASCAR looks for better racing, especially on short tracks and road courses, drivers want more horsepower. Here's what they're saying.

www.foxsports.com

 

[***Ironhead***]

That was a Goodyear problem in 2008 and from that year on Goodyear wouldn’t bring a tire that would race…. In 2008 Brickyard tires wore out every 10-15 laps no matter what anyone done!

What we seen yesterday wasn’t a Goodyear problem they used the same tire last fall without a problem.The last green flag run yesterday had some teams going almost 75 laps on the last set of tires!

The resins applied was the issue it wasn’t PJ1 like in the past.

What I didn’t understand was when some drivers didn’t even get in the resign they still had problems. I know Busch tried it. It must have widen out I guess. Still reminds me of Indy 15-20 laps on a 2.5 mile track or 50 to 70 laps on a .5 mile track. I just wish they would stop putting that traction compound on the track.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

This is a list of the best 75 cup races. Which is your favorite?

75 best NASCAR races list provides fans with unique ways to watch them

In honor of its 75th anniversary, NASCAR released its list of the 75 best NASCAR races ever with videos for fans to remember some all-time races.

sportsnaut.com

My favorite was the Bristol night race, Dale Sr spinning Terry Labonte at the end. What a lot of people forget is that Labonte did the same thing to Sr earlier in the race, Dale just saved his for a much more crucial point in the race.

Kurt Busch and Ricky Cravens photo finish was an amazing race also.

Cant forgot Jeff Gordon at Martinsville in 05. Pit for a loose wheel, lost 3 laps, gained 2 laps back by passing the leader and got a lucky dog for the 3rd. Ended up winning.

Then at Richmond in 2012 after going a lap down, car handled like ****. Got under the car and cut the chain to the rear track bar and rallied back for 2nd and made the chase. Pretty impressive.

Now, cutting the chain would be an unapproved adjustment and end with point deductions and a fine.

 

[Ingomike]

My favorite was the Bristol night race, Dale Sr spinning Terry Labonte at the end. What a lot of people forget is that Labonte did the same thing to Sr earlier in the race, Dale just saved his for a much more crucial point in the race.

Kurt Busch and Ricky Cravens photo finish was an amazing race also.

Cant forgot Jeff Gordon at Martinsville in 05. Pit for a loose wheel, lost 3 laps, gained 2 laps back by passing the leader and got a lucky dog for the 3rd. Ended up winning.

Then at Richmond in 2012 after going a lap down, car handled like ****. Got under the car and cut the chain to the rear track bar and rallied back for 2nd and made the chase. Pretty impressive.

Now, cutting the chain would be an unapproved adjustment and end with point deductions and a fine.

Those are all great races and a segue to the Jimmy Johnson is about my third on the greatest list, not my greatest driver. I go Dale, Jeff, Jimmy. A couple of Jimmy championships would have likely been Jeff championships under the best driver points rules, he would have had 8. Dale and Jimmy ran under one major points system while Jeff was in two different major points systems and the latter years had many changes.

 

[JCSR]

Here's some food for thought. Everyone agrees that Dale Sr. was a great driver and won many championships.
But how many would he have won if not for the deaths of Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison and Tim Richmond?
Also what if Darrell Waltrip had stayed with Junior Johnson?
All major changes in their prime.