Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[actaeon277]

I’m pro-Vader. Air chokes would be awesome.

Good leaders lift people up.

 

[actaeon277]

Manufacturing must be different, every factory I visit nobody is happy with the mandate because they don't want to see more experienced people quitting.

Maybe these places should be burning up the phone lines.

 

[Tombs]

This should mean the end of vaccine EUA and mandates then, right?

Pfizer Shares Surge After Release Of 'Miracle' COVID Pill That Is 89% Effective At Preventing Hospitalization | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

So do we need to ratio 89% effective by the realized\touted effectiveness of their vaccine?

Oh look it's the "not" ivermectin pill I've been sarcastically joking pfizer would start pushing.

The shark has been jumped.

 

[Tombs]

In my business (insurance)...there aren’t many places to hide from ‘woke’ companies. I hate that I work for the beast, but it’s the only job I’ve ever had that pays a living wage. I spent 15 years spinning my wheels in a dead end job before I started working in my current field...was finally starting to save a little for retirement now that I’m almost ‘middle aged’, and now this.

My company IS offering testing option, but also states that we need to disclose our vaccination status within a month...THAT’S a major concern/red flag for me. Since when can a company request that I disclose medical information to them? Has that EVER been legal? Because I don’t think it is.

It doesn't cost much to file the paperwork to sue them for it.

Even if it accomplishes nothing, if you can get others at your work to do the same, it sends a very clear message they have to address.

 

[actaeon277]

Good leaders lift people up.

 

[BigRed]

Oh look it's the "not" ivermectin pill I've been sarcastically joking pfizer would start pushing.

The shark has been jumped.

Scamdemic

 

[BigRed]

Manufacturing must be different, every factory I visit nobody is happy with the mandate because they don't want to see more experienced people quitting.

Plandemic.

The central state is filled with communists hell-bent on crushing people.

 

[Small's]

If we do leave our jobs then what's next? Next month they could say any company below 100 people have to be vaccinated then everyone is screwed. Hate to say it but it really seems like Alex Jones wasn't so crazy after all. I remember him talking about this kinda stuff happening years ago and I thought he was crazy but hear we are.

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[Jeronimo]

This IS the hill to die on.
And it’s not just about this vaccine.
If they can force this on us, there’s no limit. Two shots to keep your job becomes 12 shots to keep your job. And who knows what comes next?


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[d.kaufman]

If we do leave our jobs then what's next? Next month they could say any company below 100 people have to be vaccinated then everyone is screwed. Hate to say it but it really seems like Alex Jones wasn't so crazy after all. I remember him talking about this kinda stuff happening years ago and I thought he was crazy but hear we are.

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[buckwacker]

This IS the hill to die on.
And it’s not just about this vaccine.
If they can force this on us, there’s no limit. Two shots to keep your job becomes 12 shots to keep your job. And who knows what comes next?


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"Your kids get the jabs or we take them from you." Just wait.

Getting close to time for the fourth box.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

"Your kids get the jabs or we take them from you." Just wait.

Getting close to time for the fourth box.

They're gonna have one helluva wake up that day.

 

[BigRed]

Indeed.

 

[jamil]

There's many valid, and even good, reasons for not getting vaccinated our just questioning it.

But that's not what the meme I commented on is about. It's about the same thing as Tomb's was talking about last week - implying you're weak, and not a patriot if you get vaccinated.

That's first rate fear mongering.

It's that binary thinking raising its ugly head again.

No. He said, paraphrasing, if you get vaccinated so that the powers that be allow you to operate in the world, you’re, etcetera, etcetera. He did qualify it. Not that I agree with all the etcetera.

You keep thinking the push back against the vaccine mandate is just being anti-government or whatever. Every time you say what it is you get it wrong. You haven’t correctly articulated yet what the driver is.

 

[BigRed]

Guy I do some work with was talking about how is 5yo son was excited about getting a shot.....

Think there is much operant conditioning going on?

 

[jsx1043]

No. He said, paraphrasing, if you get vaccinated so that the powers that be allow you to operate in the world, you’re, etcetera, etcetera. He did qualify it. Not that I agree with all the etcetera.

You keep thinking the push back against the vaccine mandate is just being anti-government or whatever. Every time you say what it is you get it wrong. You haven’t correctly articulated yet what the driver is.

Milquetoast fence-sitting internet sophists gonna milquetoastingtingly fence-sit while spouting lame psychobabble trying to be the smartest or most asinine or most disingenuous person in the room.

I find it highly unlikely that the folks here don’t have the reading comprehension it takes to understand what I posted.

 

[jamil]

my other question would be how inert does the vaccine have to be for it to be moot?

For some even if it's 100% saline they'd fight it - and have every right to do so.

For others maybe there's a tipping point.

Of course that's a bit theoretical as it's impossible to prove those things. And that's just an isolated thought experiment, without the real-life complexities.



PS - I hate typing on this stupid tablet. My posts are much more terse than I want because I have one finger working, and have to go and info stupid autocorrect.

The “saline” line of reasoning is essentially, “oh just get the vaccine so you don’t lose your job,” which it’s nice of you to recognize people have a right to refuse even something as inert as saline. But this demonstrates that you don’t get it.

I’ll try again. The federal government was not granted to power to mandate this. States? Arguable. It’s not just that they don’t want to do it because the government told them to. It’s so that we don’t grant by tacit approval, power that the federal government hasn’t been given. Fight it so they don’t do even more.

If you want to take the vaccine because it protects you from covid, at least a little, I don’t think any of the people here cursing Joe Biden and his overreaching mandates would have any problem with that. It looks to me like the problem is with caving in to a mandate Biden has no rightful power to to make or enforce. If I understand it correctly, it has nothing to do with any of the things you’ve quipped about.

 

[jsx1043]

And as a reminder:

Zero mandates
Zero testing
Zero passports
Zero apartheid

100% liberty.

Nothing else. You cannot comply your way out of authoritarianism.

 

[BigRed]

Nothing else. You cannot comply your way out of authoritarianism.

Damned straight.


HEAR YE HEAR YE!!!

 

[phylodog]

Mic's are droppin round these parts