Leaked/breaking:Roe v. Wade expected to be overturned

[AndreusMaximus]

Not keeping up with this thread regularly.

Who did those crack investigators determined leaked this ruling ahead of time?

Still waiting...

 

[printcraft]

Still waiting...

Word is the FBI is going to raid them any day now...

 

[Creedmoor]

I mean the videos taken by CMP. I'm not aware of any cases where these videos were actually shown in court.

CMP Found Guilty of Breaking State and Federal Laws
In January 2016, Planned Parenthood sued the Center for Medical Progress for breaking multiple state
and federal laws. The case went to trial and in November 2019, a jury empaneled by a federal district court in
San Francisco found that the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, and others who manufactured the
campaign against Planned Parenthood all broke multiple state and federal laws in their efforts to bar access to
reproductive health care.
The jury ruled in Planned Parenthood’s favor on every one of its claims, including finding that the defendants
violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and engaged in fraud, trespass,
breach of contract, and illegal secret recording. The jury awarded Planned Parenthood both compensatory and
punitive damages totaling more than $2 million for the injuries that Daleiden and his co-conspirators caused.
The trial court made clear that those behind the video campaign engaged in illegal wrongdoing while
no evidence was found of any wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood:
“Simply claiming the mantel [sic] of a journalist does not give someone a license to trespass, illegally
record, or otherwise commit violations of generally applicable laws. The ‘evidence’ defendants actually
gathered and then published as a result of the conduct the jury found was illegal did not itself show any
illegal conduct by Planned Parenthood or plaintiff affiliates.”
“[T]here is no evidence that any Federal government entity has concluded that any Planned Parenthood
affiliate illegally profited from the sale of fetal tissue or altered procedures in violation of federal laws.”
“[T]here was no evidence submitted at summary judgment or in pre-trial motions to show that any
Planned Parenthood affiliate violated any law.”

 

[AndreusMaximus]

CMP Found Guilty of Breaking State and Federal Laws
In January 2016, Planned Parenthood sued the Center for Medical Progress for breaking multiple state
and federal laws. The case went to trial and in November 2019, a jury empaneled by a federal district court in
San Francisco found that the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, and others who manufactured the
campaign against Planned Parenthood all broke multiple state and federal laws in their efforts to bar access to
reproductive health care.
The jury ruled in Planned Parenthood’s favor on every one of its claims, including finding that the defendants
violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and engaged in fraud, trespass,
breach of contract, and illegal secret recording. The jury awarded Planned Parenthood both compensatory and
punitive damages totaling more than $2 million for the injuries that Daleiden and his co-conspirators caused.
The trial court made clear that those behind the video campaign engaged in illegal wrongdoing while
no evidence was found of any wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood:
“Simply claiming the mantel [sic] of a journalist does not give someone a license to trespass, illegally
record, or otherwise commit violations of generally applicable laws. The ‘evidence’ defendants actually
gathered and then published as a result of the conduct the jury found was illegal did not itself show any
illegal conduct by Planned Parenthood or plaintiff affiliates.”
“[T]here is no evidence that any Federal government entity has concluded that any Planned Parenthood
affiliate illegally profited from the sale of fetal tissue or altered procedures in violation of federal laws.”
“[T]here was no evidence submitted at summary judgment or in pre-trial motions to show that any
Planned Parenthood affiliate violated any law.”

Exactly what I was saying. Go watch the videos that CMP took; they literally had PP execs on video haggling over the price of baby body parts, talking about how they can alter the abortion procedure to get more intact bodies, and saying on camera that they're afraid if any of this gets out they'll be in big trouble. In one video they're literally picking through the remains of an aborted baby and talking about what parts they're able to keep intact.

CMP never trespassed; they always met in public places, or were allowed access to a clinic by personnel. The case you cite above was a ridiculous show trial, run by an activist judge, who literally barred the video taken by CMP from even being played in court. That's right; the very video that was the subject of the trial couldn't even be seen by the jury.

The claim in your snippet that the video gathered by CMP did not show any illegal conduct is patently false. Go watch the video yourself if you don't believe me:

Investigative Footage

Watch the summary videos of specific undercover meetings from CMP’s Human Capital project documenting Planned Parenthood’s sale of baby body parts. Full footage for each encounter is al…

www.centerformedicalprogress.org

 

[maxipum]

CMP Found Guilty of Breaking State and Federal Laws
In January 2016, Planned Parenthood sued the Center for Medical Progress for breaking multiple state
and federal laws. The case went to trial and in November 2019, a jury empaneled by a federal district court in
San Francisco found that the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, and others who manufactured the
campaign against Planned Parenthood all broke multiple state and federal laws in their efforts to bar access to
reproductive health care.
The jury ruled in Planned Parenthood’s favor on every one of its claims, including finding that the defendants
violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and engaged in fraud, trespass,
breach of contract, and illegal secret recording. The jury awarded Planned Parenthood both compensatory and
punitive damages totaling more than $2 million for the injuries that Daleiden and his co-conspirators caused.
The trial court made clear that those behind the video campaign engaged in illegal wrongdoing while
no evidence was found of any wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood:
“Simply claiming the mantel [sic] of a journalist does not give someone a license to trespass, illegally
record, or otherwise commit violations of generally applicable laws. The ‘evidence’ defendants actually
gathered and then published as a result of the conduct the jury found was illegal did not itself show any
illegal conduct by Planned Parenthood or plaintiff affiliates.”
“[T]here is no evidence that any Federal government entity has concluded that any Planned Parenthood
affiliate illegally profited from the sale of fetal tissue or altered procedures in violation of federal laws.”
“[T]here was no evidence submitted at summary judgment or in pre-trial motions to show that any
Planned Parenthood affiliate violated any law.”

Where was this court ? Ooooh San Fran the bastion of truth and impartial justice!!!! (Purple implode)

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Here's the video I was talking about where they're picking through body parts (skip to 8:40)

Several notable things said in the video, particularly when they talk about how they're happy to sell organs as line items, because it helps them better see how much money they can make that way.

Before you come back at me defending this gruesome business, I want you to watch the last three minutes of this video, and see for yourself at the very end as they're picking through the body of a baby recently killed, "Here's a stomach, heart, kidney, adrenal... arms... and another boy!" I don't give a darn even if what they're doing is technically legal, it's evil. Pure evil. If you can't define killing a human baby, then picking through it's mutilated body to find organs to sell (I'm sorry, get "reimbursed" for) as evil, what on earth can you call evil?

 

[actaeon277]

Yup, journalist can't record things.
Let's just throw out ALL investigative journalists happenings from the last century.
Wouldn't want anything to be found.
Like the condition of the stockyards back in the haydays.

Leave the people ignorant.

 

[Ingomike]

CMP Found Guilty of Breaking State and Federal Laws
In January 2016, Planned Parenthood sued the Center for Medical Progress for breaking multiple state
and federal laws. The case went to trial and in November 2019, a jury empaneled by a federal district court in
San Francisco found that the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, and others who manufactured the
campaign against Planned Parenthood all broke multiple state and federal laws in their efforts to bar access to
reproductive health care.
The jury ruled in Planned Parenthood’s favor on every one of its claims, including finding that the defendants
violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and engaged in fraud, trespass,
breach of contract, and illegal secret recording. The jury awarded Planned Parenthood both compensatory and
punitive damages totaling more than $2 million for the injuries that Daleiden and his co-conspirators caused.
The trial court made clear that those behind the video campaign engaged in illegal wrongdoing while
no evidence was found of any wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood:
“Simply claiming the mantel [sic] of a journalist does not give someone a license to trespass, illegally
record, or otherwise commit violations of generally applicable laws. The ‘evidence’ defendants actually
gathered and then published as a result of the conduct the jury found was illegal did not itself show any
illegal conduct by Planned Parenthood or plaintiff affiliates.”
“[T]here is no evidence that any Federal government entity has concluded that any Planned Parenthood
affiliate illegally profited from the sale of fetal tissue or altered procedures in violation of federal laws.”
“[T]here was no evidence submitted at summary judgment or in pre-trial motions to show that any
Planned Parenthood affiliate violated any law.”

Your efforts to cover this up and explain it away are unreal…

 

[Creedmoor]

Exactly what I was saying. Go watch the videos that CMP took; they literally had PP execs on video haggling over the price of baby body parts, talking about how they can alter the abortion procedure to get more intact bodies, and saying on camera that they're afraid if any of this gets out they'll be in big trouble. In one video they're literally picking through the remains of an aborted baby and talking about what parts they're able to keep intact.

CMP never trespassed; they always met in public places, or were allowed access to a clinic by personnel. The case you cite above was a ridiculous show trial, run by an activist judge, who literally barred the video taken by CMP from even being played in court. That's right; the very video that was the subject of the trial couldn't even be seen by the jury.

The claim in your snippet that the video gathered by CMP did not show any illegal conduct is patently false. Go watch the video yourself if you don't believe me:

Investigative Footage

Watch the summary videos of specific undercover meetings from CMP’s Human Capital project documenting Planned Parenthood’s sale of baby body parts. Full footage for each encounter is al…

www.centerformedicalprogress.org

 

[Creedmoor]

Where was this court ? Ooooh San Fran the bastion of truth and impartial justice!!!! (Purple implode)

I'll be damned, I never knew the defendant picked where to file for a lawsuit.
I always thought that was the plaintiffs attorneys job. Thanks!

 

[KLB]

I'll be damned, I never knew the defendant picked where to file for a lawsuit.
I always thought that was the plaintiffs attorneys job. Thanks!

That is a game that is contrary to the actual search for justice.

 

[Creedmoor]

That is a game that is contrary to the actual search for justice.

Maybe they shouldn't have filed in California under the 10ths jurisdiction.

 

[KLB]

Maybe they shouldn't have filed in California under the 10ths jurisdiction.

Why wouldn't PP file a case in California? It is heavily slanted in their favor.

In January 2016, Planned Parenthood sued the Center for Medical Progress for breaking multiple state
and federal laws.

There are normally rules around where you can file. I'm not sure how they ended up there.

I'm also not sure how a federal court found anyone guilty of illegal recording. That is a state law.

 

[BugI02]

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[BugI02]

I'm also not sure how a federal court found anyone guilty of illegal recording. That is a state law.

Probably the shadow of the penumbra of the clinic access law

The left is used to finding whatever they go looking for. Probably why 'the science' is such a cluster****

 

[Creedmoor]

Why wouldn't PP file a case in California? It is heavily slanted in their favor.

There are normally rules around where you can file. I'm not sure how they ended up there.

I'm also not sure how a federal court found anyone guilty of illegal recording. That is a state law.

Because thats where the plaintiffs filed, PP were the defendants.

 

[buckwacker]

So in your words you admit Planned Parent hasn't broken any laws. With that you're argument is a moot point.

So if the US hands isis or al qaeda 100 mil for humanitarian purposes, we could unequivocally say we weren't funding terrorism?

 

[AndreusMaximus]

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What's that supposed to mean?

Do you even give a crap about truth or justice? Or is it really the case that to you, as long as the government says PP is A-okay, nothing else matters? If so, your trust in the government is sorely misplaced.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

I'll be damned, I never knew the defendant picked where to file for a lawsuit.
I always thought that was the plaintiffs attorneys job. Thanks!

In the case you cited, CMP was the defendant, and PP was filing lawsuit against them. PP chose the jurisdiction they did because they knew the judge was in their pocket.

To my knowledge, CMP never brought a lawsuit against PP, because as private citizens they didn't have standing to. I'm pretty sure it would have to be the US attorney general who would bring a lawsuit against PP.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Maybe they shouldn't have filed in California under the 10ths jurisdiction.

PP picked it, not CMP.