IMPD releases video of OIS at gas station on 8/2/21

[Ark]

Surveillance video shows suspect point gun in deadly shooting involving IMPD officers

Detectives were tracking 33-year-old James Williams, who was a suspect in a double homicide that happened Aug. 2.

www.wthr.com

"Victim" was a homicide suspect and, get this, wanted by the DoC for escape. Observed with a gun and tracked into a gas station on 21st, decided to go down the hard way.

Some shotgun action by one of the IMPD detectives. There's a picture of the suspect's gun in the article, looks like an old beat up Ruger P-series.

 

[rooster]

Whole lotta stupid there and he got what he deserved. Feel bad for the cop who had to pull the trigger.

bad guy part aside just to AAR the level of stupid here;
He drew on drawn weapons, 4 on 1 and he ran himself back into a corner. Cops had long guns and he had a crappy looking pistol that probably had a half loaded mag and no reload. Idk who in their right mind chooses that gunfight

What kind of pistol is that? I don’t recognize it.

 

[Ark]

Whole lotta stupid there and he got what he deserved. Feel bad for the cop who had to pull the trigger.

bad guy part aside just to AAR the level of stupid here;
He drew on drawn weapons, 4 on 1 and he ran himself back into a corner. Cops had long guns and he had a crappy looking pistol that probably had a half loaded mag and no reload. Idk who in their right mind chooses that gunfight

What kind of pistol is that? I don’t recognize it.

It's a Ruger P-series of some kind, I'm not boomer enough to ID it.

Judging by that rap sheet, the homicide he was wanted for, and the illegal gun, this looks to me like your typical case of "death before prison". He did the dumb thing because he wasn't planning on coming out alive.

 

[Bigtanker]

Ark is correct. P series Ruger

 

[drillsgt]

It's a Ruger P-series of some kind, I'm not boomer enough to ID it.

Judging by that rap sheet, the homicide he was wanted for, and the illegal gun, this looks to me like your typical case of "death before prison". He did the dumb thing because he wasn't planning on coming out alive.

Not a boomer but looks like a P94, I know they made some in 2-tone like that, mostly in .40, not sure what caliber that one is.

 

[rooster]

It's a Ruger P-series of some kind, I'm not boomer enough to ID it.

I guess I’m over here showing my youth. I thought it was some cheap import.

 

[rooster]

Not a boomer but looks like a P94, I know they made some in 2-tone like that, mostly in .40, not sure what caliber that one is.

So if it was a 40 with a half loaded mag he didn’t even have enough rounds to win the fight even if he was secretly John wicks twin brother. Suicide by cop

 

[BehindBlueI's]

So if it was a 40 with a half loaded mag he didn’t even have enough rounds to win the fight even if he was secretly John wicks twin brother. Suicide by cop

The nice thing about those Rugers is they double as a club.

 

[BigRed]

Surveillance video shows suspect point gun in deadly shooting involving IMPD officers

Detectives were tracking 33-year-old James Williams, who was a suspect in a double homicide that happened Aug. 2.

www.wthr.com

"Victim" was a homicide suspect and, get this, wanted by the DoC for escape. Observed with a gun and tracked into a gas station on 21st, decided to go down the hard way.

Some shotgun action by one of the IMPD detectives. There's a picture of the suspect's gun in the article, looks like an old beat up Ruger P-series.

Good riddance.

 

[thunderchicken]

Hope the cops involved are doing well mentally coping with what went down. They made the right decision based on the responses this violent criminal presented them with.

When I heard all the sirens responding, I knew something serious was going down. I'm just a couple blocks from that gas station

 

[Cameramonkey]

Prayers for the officers. Nobody needs to dispatch vermin like that.

Even with this footage, there will still be those who say they didnt have to shoot him, he was turning his life around, dindunuffin, etc. SMH.

 

[cbhausen]

**** that piece of **** animal. I’ve shed tears when of my dogs died but not for him.

 

[Double T]

To play devils advocate here, it WAS a good shoot IMO until the anchoring shot. Slowed down to 1/4 speed, the cop said "hands, let me see your hands" and on the second instance of "hands" in that sentence, shot the guy despite his inability to move his extremities. Looked like the first shot hit his T spine, depending where, he likely couldn't breathe let alone move those extremities.

 

[wtburnette]

Good, hope more scumbag criminals end up shot instead of going through the revolving doors of justice.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Good, hope more scumbag criminals end up shot instead of going through the revolving doors of justice.

Yep. If they want to try their case on the spot, fine. Just understand that in many cases, there will be zero appeals possible.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

To play devils advocate here, it WAS a good shoot IMO until the anchoring shot. Slowed down to 1/4 speed, the cop said "hands, let me see your hands" and on the second instance of "hands" in that sentence, shot the guy despite his inability to move his extremities. Looked like the first shot hit his T spine, depending where, he likely couldn't breathe let alone move those extremities.

Luckily, the legal standard is not based on what you can pick apart watching the event unfold at 1/4 speed after the fact while safely watching it from an angle that is not that of the shooter.

 

[Ark]

To play devils advocate here, it WAS a good shoot IMO until the anchoring shot. Slowed down to 1/4 speed, the cop said "hands, let me see your hands" and on the second instance of "hands" in that sentence, shot the guy despite his inability to move his extremities. Looked like the first shot hit his T spine, depending where, he likely couldn't breathe let alone move those extremities.

 

[rosejm]

Notice also the evidence being discarded onto/into the counter before switching to the phone to pass along its location.

Arguments can be made about the last shot (everyone has an opinion), but I'll ask this:
If you had defended yourself, and the attacker still had their weapon in hand, do they still pose a threat?
Does the fact that they are a previously convicted violent felon that chose to start a gunfight change your assessment?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Convenience stores don’t seem to have a lack of cameras. I’ve also noticed violent felons with warrants never have body cameras.

Has anyone heard from the local FOSW (Fraternal Order of Social Workers) rep?

 

[phylodog]

To play devils advocate here, it WAS a good shoot IMO until the anchoring shot. Slowed down to 1/4 speed, the cop said "hands, let me see your hands" and on the second instance of "hands" in that sentence, shot the guy despite his inability to move his extremities. Looked like the first shot hit his T spine, depending where, he likely couldn't breathe let alone move those extremities.

I didn't realize someone had to finish their sentence/statement before firing a shot. Please show your work on how you came to conclude the first shot hit his T spine (but you're not sure where) and how you conclude that he likely couldn't breathe or move.

Stop trying to sound like you know what you're talking about. You don't.