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[Bigtanker]

Let's keep this on track and not make it personal.

 

[Expat]

I think the dog pile already started.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

If that is what you truly believe I do feel sads for your family.

I just don't understand your mentality.

You're the one who talks about all the horrible woes caused to society when "unwanted" children are born from unexpected pregnancies.

And yet a solution that teaches children to live a chaste lifestyle that will help them develop better self control, avoid unwanted pregnancies, and ultimately stand a far better chance of finding a happy, fulfilling marriage, is somehow "sad"?

Apparently rather than teaching our children to live chaste lives it's a better solution to encourage them to sleep around with everyone and just chop up the babies before they're born?

Yes, there can be a problem with some people who supposedly claim to practice this sort of morality, but I'm telling you from first-hand experience: the problem is not parents that teach their children to have morals when it comes to sexuality. The only problem arises when parents don't teach their children morals, but then act all horrified, disown them, throw them out of the house, etc, when they don't live picture-perfect lives. Yes, that is a problem among some "Christians" (though a far more rare problem nowadays than the left would have you believe) and it's fair to criticize such people. Those people are generally more concerned with the opinions of others about themselves than with the well being of their children.

But for those who genuinely, caringly, and lovingly teach their children to live according to Christian morals, it's a completely different story.

To answer a question you asked me earlier: yes, I have traveled outside this country. I'm sure it's not been as extensive as your travels, but that's really irrelevant, because right here at home I've seen a world that you haven't seen. Myself and most of my close friends were raised with the morality that you say you feel "sad" for a family that is raised with it. The result: no STD's, no teen pregnancies, no porn addictions, no divorced parents or broken households, and those of us who have felt called to the married life have found happy, fulfilling marriages, and not one of us would ever consider leaving our spouse. No, I'm not being pollyannic here, I know that life will have its bumps and its storms, and if you check back with us in ten years I'm sure there'll be some bruises there, and we won't all be picture-perfect living in ivory towers (nor are we now.) But as the example our parents set for us proves, a happy, fulfilling life lived in faithfulness to one's spouse and loving all of one's children, without ever feeling the need to send any of them down the garbage disposal before they are even born; this life is far from an unattainable ideal.

On the other hand, I've also seen the lives of many of my extended family who were left to learn their morality from public schools and instead of learning a Christian morality were imbued with the promiscuous culture that is pushed on them by society. As a result, many of them went down the path that seems to be the norm nowadays; for the women: multiple pregnancies before being married or even finishing school, often with multiple fathers; and for the men: difficulty finding a lifelong partner, divorce, child support payments, and even some of them turning to drug use (coincidence? You decide.)

Yes, you can find anecdotes from both sides: supposed "Christians" who preach all day about sexual morality but turn out to be complete hypocrites; promiscuous men and women who say they're far happier and productive without any of the old morals. But if you look at statistics, you'll consistently find that those who actually live a chaste lifestyle have fewer difficulties to face in finding a healthy, happy, and fulfilling life. I say this is no surprise because this is what the same God who made us told us is true. But even if you don't believe in God, it still makes sense that living a life guided by some sort of sexual morals beats the heartaches, health risks, unplanned pregnancies, and other results of just sleeping around with whoever you feel like.

But I feel like you must have at least some inkling of all this; aren't you same guy who basically said you'd get into fisticuffs with any teacher who tried to show your children sex toys in class? So you clearly have some sexual morals that you're willing to impose on others, too, right?

What's the bottom line here, then? Because I really still can't see what you're driving at.

 

[jamil]

I did not say one ****ing word about grooming children. You’re the one who thinks porn is for kids.

Ya. Porn is for everyone!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Let's keep this on track and not make it personal.

Sometimes, I wish we could close our own threads.

 

[courier6]

If that is what you truly believe I do feel sads for your family.

Why would you feel bad for a family that has a father that relies on God? He believes sexual immorality is bad. Are you implying it's good for a family to be lead by someone that is pro-sexual immorality?

 

[BugI02]

Please explain how low barriers is targeting. Targeting is actively enticing a group. Low barriers are not an active effort.

Are the low barriers to entry at the southern border targeting migrants to entice them to come (since we're talking about porn) make the journey?

 

[BugI02]

It was only after investigation that we found out that cigarette companies we’re targeting children. People had plenty of evidence that made it a reasonably conclusion. It takes an accusation based on circumstan

For extra credit, apply that mindset to the big steal

 

[KLB]

Are the low barriers to entry at the southern border targeting migrants to entice them to come (since we're talking about porn) make the journey?

Enabling? Yes.
Targeting? No
Again, two totally different words.

Instead of trying to get words to fit narratives, how about we use the right words?

 

[BugI02]

For someone against watching porn, your sure seem to know loads about its supposed platforms.
How do you know all this?

I haven't attacked anyone here, and i'm upset????

Ive just defended our 1st Amendment.
You just cant grasp that fact.

Oh, really? Perhaps you have forgotten your #830 already, where it appears you attempt to throw shade on DadSmith by intimating he might be a consumer of what he loathes?

An attack can come in many forms

 

[BugI02]

Enabling? Yes.
Targeting? No
Again, two totally different words.

Instead of trying to get words to fit narratives, how about we use the right words?

You know that targeting does not always involve crosshairs or laser designation, yes? It is not always kinetic

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[BugI02]

Crazy, but it's Jersey.

For sure if the "security forces" have time to be involved in this, their departments are in need of some serious budget cuts. Then again it's Jersey, where budgets fall off the back of trucks.

The Wolverines know that is a bad scenario

 

[jamil]

Sometimes, I wish we could close our own threads.

You’ve din an admirable job trying to post thing’s relevant to the thread. The “meh porn is fine” sentiment is controversial and naturally leads to arguments about that. It’s unfortunate that porn got conflated with grooming.

If peopme want to continue arguing about porn, good or bad, it probably deserves its own thread.

 

[BugI02]

Which part of the bold would be legal today?

Sigh. You should read more about cases of young girls rescued from human trafficking. I believe there was one a few years ago wherein, when she told her story, a very prolific 'actress' said she was forced to start generating 'content' at the age of 15

I guess we just take the 'producers' word that no underage girls or boys were used in the making of their 'products'. I don't see any way you can police that without regulating and controlling the 'industry'. I'm also skeptical that appearing in porn or becoming a sex worker is some kind of free choice that young people make and as such, there has to be some sort of pipeline for fresh 'talent'

 

[Cameramonkey]

Sometimes, I wish we could close our own threads.

You can. If you started it, report the thread and ask nicely that it be closed. I've seen it happen several times.

 

[jamil]

For extra credit, apply that mindset to the big steal

Oh jeez. Now we’re thread jacking that. Okay. Looks like Kari Lake is getting some progress. I’ve never been against investing. I’m against assuming without investigating. I’m against pulling stunts to stay in office. Now back to grooming.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

You can. If you started it, report the thread and ask nicely that it be closed. I've seen it happen several times.

Good point. But I’m a do-it-yourself kinda guy.

 

[jamil]

Enabling? Yes.
Targeting? No
Again, two totally different words.

Instead of trying to get words to fit narratives, how about we use the right words?

Make a new thread. I think grooming is an important topic and should not be conflated with porn. And the propriety of porn is a good topic in itself and deserves its own thread.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Make a new thread. I think grooming is an important topic and should not be conflated with porn. And the propriety of porn is a good topic in itself and deserves its own thread.

I don't wanna be the one to start "the porn thread" on INGO. I'm just sayin'.

 

[KLB]

Make a new thread. I think grooming is an important topic and should not be conflated with porn. And the propriety of porn is a good topic in itself and deserves its own thread.

Which is where this all started.

Painting with a wide brush is popular around here.