Daylight Saving Time

[DoggyDaddy]

Get a battery powered mower

I have recently gotten a battery powered chainsaw, leaf blower and hedge trimmer. I'm not ready to get a battery powered mower with the size of my yard. Baby steps!

 

[ditcherman]

Those are all personal choices for our hypothetical side hustler to make.

Is she a midget?

 

[ditcherman]

I've started mowing too, but thanks to DST I have to wait until almost noon before the grass dries out from the dew.

So you’re saying someone didn’t give dew the DST memo?

 

[ditcherman]

But a working guy has to eat. You work all day. Then you go straight to your side hustle without food?

You can eat when you’re dead.
Now get to work.

 

[snapping turtle]

At one time a friend and his assistant mowed 70-72 lawns a week. Small little town yards postage stamp ones. Many would not let him mow on Saturday or Sunday and in the rainy weather they would fall behind. So after work I helped out from about 4:30-5 pm till dark. You can mow in the dark with a headlamp. I did once. My yard after helping him out.

As far as DST this was pre Mitch. Or Hoosier standard time so it has no bearing on the discussion

 

[jamil]

Those are all personal choices for our hypothetical side hustler to make.

Then why wouldn’t you imagine he’d make choices that benefit himself instead of benefiting you?

 

[jamil]

You can eat when you’re dead.
Now get to work.

You sound like my wife.

 

[actaeon277]

You sound like my wife.

He has a headache?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

It is hardly a side hustle for someone who owns a landscaping service or works fulltime during the season.
It has to do with you declaring that the extra 1 - 2 hours someone might work is insignificant.

 

[Hawkeye7br]

Several years ago, I mowed yards as a sideline income. Working 7am to 3:30 pm, I would take my mowers, string trimmer, leaf blower, to work on my trailer, and earn $100 on the way home from work. You can't do that by mowing grass at 5 am...

Let's say the lawn mowing season goes from 01 May - 30 September. Let's further say that lawn mowing without artificial light can safely take place through the extent of civil twilight. (It is likely somewhere into nautical twilight, realistically.)

Indianapolis:

01 May: EDT civil twilight ends at 9:08pm = 5.5 post-work hours w/light
31 Aug: EDT civil twilight ends at 8:44pm = 5 post-work hours w/light (edit: looked at the wrong date)
30 Sep: EDT civil twilight ends at 7:54pm = 4.5 post-work hours w/light

Those are the minimums.

Remove DST, and you would still have, minimum, 3.5 hours with light after work. That's not enough time for a yard work side hustle?

(Where did the "reason for edit" field go? I edited this to reflect 01 May - 30 Sep as the lawn-mowing season. I was debating whether lawn-mowing season was May - Aug or May - Sep. Post now shows both, just to make sure I show a reasonable worst-case at either extreme.)

That dog don't hunt.

Nautical twilight doesn't exist here. It doesn't allow for trees, buildings, clouds, that blocks sunlight from the west. My solar panels don't recognize nautical twilight. I have rooftop panels on the east and south sides. Why not the west side? Because my neighbor has a 2 story house and 4 story treetops, and "nautical twilight" starts about 3 pm.

DST allows an extra hour of daylight after the conventional work day ends, I sometimes use it to put some rounds down range, and that makes me happy.

 

[KLB]

Several years ago, I mowed yards as a sideline income. Working 7am to 3:30 pm, I would take my mowers, string trimmer, leaf blower, to work on my trailer, and earn $100 on the way home from work. You can't do that by mowing grass at 5 am...

That dog don't hunt.

Nautical twilight doesn't exist here. It doesn't allow for trees, buildings, clouds, that blocks sunlight from the west. My solar panels don't recognize nautical twilight. I have rooftop panels on the east and south sides. Why not the west side? Because my neighbor has a 2 story house and 4 story treetops, and "nautical twilight" starts about 3 pm.

DST allows an extra hour of daylight after the conventional work day ends, I sometimes use it to put some rounds down range, and that makes me happy.

Your panels recognize DST?

 

[jamil]

Your panels recognize DST?

As funny as that soundbite is, imma denny that up a little. He was referring to nautical twilight not DST.

 

[chipbennett]

Then why wouldn’t you imagine he’d make choices that benefit himself instead of benefiting you?

Why should the rest of the world have to adjust the clock to accommodate his personal choices?

 

[chipbennett]

Several years ago, I mowed yards as a sideline income. Working 7am to 3:30 pm, I would take my mowers, string trimmer, leaf blower, to work on my trailer, and earn $100 on the way home from work. You can't do that by mowing grass at 5 am...

That dog don't hunt.

Nautical twilight doesn't exist here. It doesn't allow for trees, buildings, clouds, that blocks sunlight from the west. My solar panels don't recognize nautical twilight. I have rooftop panels on the east and south sides.

Trees don't block civil twilight - or for that matter, nautical twilight - sky light levels. The hours I cited were for civil twilight, during which time there absolutely still is sufficient atmospheric light level to mow grass. That light level becomes insufficient somewhere during nautical twilight, absent artificial light.

UV intensity sufficient to charge capacitors via sky lights has absolutely nothing to do with light levels sensed by the human eye.

Why not the west side? Because my neighbor has a 2 story house and 4 story treetops, and "nautical twilight" starts about 3 pm.

No, it doesn't.

That's not what "nautical twilight" means. The degrees of twilight correspond to the angle of the sun beneath the horizon, and the corresponding amount of atmospheric light. Trees and houses don't create different twilight times or atmospheric light levels.

 

[chipbennett]

As funny as that soundbite is, imma denny that up a little. He was referring to nautical twilight not DST.

He thinks houses and trees cause a 3pm nautical twilight.

 

[Hawkeye7br]

Your panels recognize DST?

We're talking about usable light, or the lack of it, as the sun drops below the horizon, and an argument that shaded and open areas have the same usable light.

 

[chipbennett]

We're talking about usable light, or the lack of it, as the sun drops below the horizon, and an argument that shaded and open areas have the same usable light.

That light, at the time of day we're discussing, is entirely refracted from the atmosphere. It is, by definition, not direct sunlight because the sun is below the horizon.

Shaded areas will, again by definition, not have the same light as open areas.

 

[Ingomike]

That light, at the time of day we're discussing, is entirely refracted from the atmosphere. It is, by definition, not direct sunlight because the sun is below the horizon.

Shaded areas will, again by definition, not have the same light as open areas.

The light is from the atmosphere and it can be blocked by trees and anything overhead…

 

[chipbennett]

The light is from the atmosphere and it can be blocked by trees and anything overhead…

This rabbit trail is addressing the incorrect claim that trees and houses cause a premature nautical twilight. The underlying point remains that, during civil twilight, there is sufficient ambient light to mow a lawn.

 

[Ingomike]

This rabbit trail is addressing the incorrect claim that trees and houses cause a premature nautical twilight. The underlying point remains that, during civil twilight, there is sufficient ambient light to mow a lawn.

That is also when the dew falls, I like DD don’t mow wet grass…