Crew member killed when shot by prop gun on set of Baldwin movie

[db308]

Back to the cartridges - would they have been 5-in-1 or 3-in-1 blanks; and how much do those blank cartridges physically resemble live cartridges?

All guns are loaded - especially guns that someone else tells you are “unloaded”.

https://www.riverjunction.com/assets/images/productimages/drygoods/guns/blanks/blank-perfect5in1-reg.jpg

 

[Leadeye]

My guess the blanks would be 5 in 1, never heard of 3 in 1s. The 5 in 1 blanks fit 38-40, 44-40 and 45 Colt, very common Colt and Winchester cartridges of the western era.

 

[Butch627]

For my purposes what blanks look like are not really part of talking about what happened here. If they wanted to see the bullets/rounds in the gun they would be dummy rounds as explained very well in one of the vids linked in the thread. In short looks real but you shake it and a BB bounces around inside of it. From my understanding those are what should have been inside the gun.
In all honesty the vast majority of the info I am trying to explain here is based on links you guys have provided and then I am adding my perspective from years on set to it. I am not going out of my way to read outside links. I am hearing stories from people who know people........and they very much fall in line with the articles linked in this thread. Not the 2am radio show conspiracy links though lol.

 

[cbhausen]

Back to the cartridges - would they have been 5-in-1 or 3-in-1 blanks; and how much do those blank cartridges physically resemble live cartridges?

All guns are loaded - especially guns that someone else tells you are “unloaded”.

How about this instead:

All guns are always guns. ALWAYS keep them pointed in a safe direction (and certainly not at anything you’re not willing to destroy).

Stop thinking it’s okay to think you can do stupid **** with an unloaded gun. Another example of how Cooper’s #1 is a fail.

 

[Trapper Jim]

I think the error is that it makes sense to all of us because we are in the firearm subculture. Stop a random person on the street and ask them to repeat the 4 rules of gun safety and the chances of getting a blank stare will be high. The resident expert in this thread suggested he should have known a decent amount about guns from previous roles. Probably, but I doubt he could recite the 4 rules. He probably got complacent and trusted “the experts.”

I find people all the time that can RECITE the four rules however having them live them intrinsically is another story.

 

[BugI02]

I find people all the time that can RECITE the four rules however having them live them intrinsically is another story.

Now do the Ten Commandments

 

[KellyinAvon]

Just speaking for myself here, but if anyone calls the loading gate and cylinder on a single action revolver the hatch and the drum, they don't get to touch any of my guns. Hell, they don't even get to look at them!!

The assistant director on the movie "Rust" admitted to a safety lapse, according to a new search warrant obtained by Fox News.

David Halls was one of the very few people including Alec Baldwin who handled the firearm prior to the accidental discharge that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

During an interview with detectives, Halls noted: "I check the barrel for obstructions, most of the time there’s no live fire, she (Hannah) opens the hatch and spins the drum, and I say cold gun on set"

Halls said in an affidavit that when armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed showed him the gun before continuing rehearsal after a lunch break, he could only remember seeing three rounds. He advised he should have checked all of them, but didn’t, and couldn’t recall if Hannah spun the drum.

Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' movie assistant director admits to gun-safety mistakes, search warrant reveals

The assistant director on the movie “Rust” admitted to a safety lapse, according to a new search warrant obtained by Fox News.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Mikey1911]

Now do the Ten Commandments

Even Brainless Biden might be able to recite the Ten Commandments; how many of them he actually obeys would be a very good question.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Even Brainless Biden might be able to recite the Ten Commandments; how many of them he actually obeys would be a very good question.

Thou shalt not... oh you know the thing!!

 

[tbhausen]

Back to the cartridges - would they have been 5-in-1 or 3-in-1 blanks; and how much do those blank cartridges physically resemble live cartridges?

All guns are loaded - especially guns that someone else tells you are “unloaded”.

I read an article that said those blanks had holes in the side of the casing.

 

[BigRed]

News is now saying gun was a Pietta repro, almost have to be 45 Colt or 44-40. I'm still betting 45 Colt.

Long Colt?




(Sorry....could not resist...LOL

 

[Leadeye]

Long Colt?




(Sorry....could not resist...LOL

There's always somebody.

 

[Mikey1911]

Thou shalt not... oh you know the thing!!

Thou shalt bear false witness, especially when thou art stealing and coveting.

 

[getem2011]

I heard the DA is considering criminal charges against Baldwin....yikes

 

[actaeon277]

Just speaking for myself here, but if anyone calls the loading gate and cylinder on a single action revolver the hatch and the drum, they don't get to touch any of my guns. Hell, they don't even get to look at them!!

The assistant director on the movie "Rust" admitted to a safety lapse, according to a new search warrant obtained by Fox News.

David Halls was one of the very few people including Alec Baldwin who handled the firearm prior to the accidental discharge that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

During an interview with detectives, Halls noted: "I check the barrel for obstructions, most of the time there’s no live fire, she (Hannah) opens the hatch and spins the drum, and I say cold gun on set"

Halls said in an affidavit that when armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed showed him the gun before continuing rehearsal after a lunch break, he could only remember seeing three rounds. He advised he should have checked all of them, but didn’t, and couldn’t recall if Hannah spun the drum.

Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' movie assistant director admits to gun-safety mistakes, search warrant reveals

The assistant director on the movie “Rust” admitted to a safety lapse, according to a new search warrant obtained by Fox News.

www.foxnews.com

 

[actaeon277]

I heard the DA is considering criminal charges against Baldwin....yikes

"considering"

 

[bwframe]

How about this instead:

All guns are always guns. ALWAYS keep them pointed in a safe direction (and certainly not at anything you’re not willing to destroy).

Stop thinking it’s okay to think you can do stupid **** with an unloaded gun. Another example of how Cooper’s #1 is a fail.

The FOUR RULES work. All you have to do is follow them.

NOT overthink them into something they are aren't, with a bunch if silly semantics.

 

[Jaybird1980]

"considering"

How considerate of them.

 

[actaeon277]

If you were going to let the "rich and powerful" get off easy, you wouldn't just advertise it to the general public.

 

[dieselrealtor]

My wife read that it was a lead projectile, not a blank. Not sure where she read it or how credible it was.