Colts 2023 A Time To Change

[ChristianPatriot]

2023 schedule released

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Basically all 1pm games. Zero primetime games (not surprising).

No Thursday night game for the Colts this year.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Basically all 1pm games. Zero primetime games (not surprising).

No Thursday night game for the Colts this year.

Yay for me! I'll get to watch more this year.

 

[HappyGrandpa]

I remember another time the Colts picked a kid from South Florida at the number 4 spot in the draft, it worked out pretty good that time.

Nice read about him.

Indianapolis radio host tells story of new Colts QB Anthony Richardson's classy move at NFL rookie event

The Indianapolis Colts drafted Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson because of his raw on-field talent, but also because of his character off the gridiron.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Nice read about him.

Indianapolis radio host tells story of new Colts QB Anthony Richardson's classy move at NFL rookie event

The Indianapolis Colts drafted Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson because of his raw on-field talent, but also because of his character off the gridiron.

www.foxnews.com

There’s really no telling if he’ll ever become a good NFL quarterback or not, but I definitely think he’s made of the right stuff. He’s gonna be very easy to root for.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Good for Ryan. Yeah it didn’t really work out for him and Indy but he’s a good dude and a total pro.

Ex-Falcons, Colts QB Ryan joins CBS as analyst

Veteran quarterback Matt Ryan has joined CBS Sports as an NFL analyst, the network said Monday.

www.espn.com

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Somewhat off topic, but I keep hearing about the Washington Commanders allegedly breaking the rules for contacting Andrew Luck (since proven to be false) back in 2022, because they didn't ask the Colts first. Luck retired in 2019. Why would they have to contact the Colts organization first? He's clearly no longer a Colt.

 

[thunderchicken]

Somewhat off topic, but I keep hearing about the Washington Commanders allegedly breaking the rules for contacting Andrew Luck (since proven to be false) back in 2022, because they didn't ask the Colts first. Luck retired in 2019. Why would they have to contact the Colts organization first? He's clearly no longer a Colt.

As I understand it since he retired while under an active contract, if he were to make a return to the league he would be under contract to the Colts. The Colts would have the option to retain him or could release him before other teams can approach him about playing.

I could be a bit off base but that's how I understand it

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Somewhat off topic, but I keep hearing about the Washington Commanders allegedly breaking the rules for contacting Andrew Luck (since proven to be false) back in 2022, because they didn't ask the Colts first. Luck retired in 2019. Why would they have to contact the Colts organization first? He's clearly no longer a Colt.

The Colts own the “rights” to Andrew Luck basically forever.

So that means if any team at any time wants Andrew Luck to play for them it would have to come via trade from the Colts.

Any team contacting Luck without speaking to the Colts first is tampering.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

As I understand it since he retired while under an active contract, if he were to make a return to the league he would be under contract to the Colts. The Colts would have the option to retain him or could release him before other teams can approach him about playing.

I could be a bit off base but that's how I understand it

The Colts own the “rights” to Andrew Luck basically forever.

So that means if any team at any time wants Andrew Luck to play for them it would have to come via trade from the Colts.

Any team contacting Luck without speaking to the Colts first is tampering.

Well that's just crazy IMHO. Once someone is done with an employer, they should be done. I understand ND agreements, but even those have an expiration date.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Well that's just crazy IMHO. Once someone is done with an employer, they should be done. I understand ND agreements, but even those have an expiration date.

It certainly is an interesting little quirk of NFL contracts.

Also, Luck’s never playing again. Ever.

 

[Ingomike]

Well that's just crazy IMHO. Once someone is done with an employer, they should be done. I understand ND agreements, but even those have an expiration date.

NO! He signed a contract to play x years for the Colts, he can retire and not play when he wishes, but if he wants to play again, he still owes the colts those unfulfilled years. He was a big boy that made an adult agreement and he should be man enough to live up to it.

Otherwise players would retire all the time to get to a better team or get a better deal. Brady could have signed a retirement deal with the Bucs to save them cap space, but it would have made him their property if he unretired, as it is he is a retired free agent.

 

[klausm]

Well that's just crazy IMHO. Once someone is done with an employer, they should be done. I understand ND agreements, but even those have an expiration date.

for the millions they make my sympathy is pretty well non-existent, he signed the contract

 

[DoggyDaddy]

NO! He signed a contract to play x years for the Colts, he can retire and not play when he wishes, but if he wants to play again, he still owes the colts those unfulfilled years. He was a big boy that made an adult agreement and he should be man enough to live up to it.

Otherwise players would retire all the time to get to a better team or get a better deal. Brady could have signed a retirement deal with the Bucs to save them cap space, but it would have made him their property if he unretired, as it is he is a retired free agent.

That makes more sense then. I was thinking that once he retired, that was it and the contract was done (I assume he didn't continue to get paid after he retired).

 

[Ingomike]

I assume he didn't continue to get paid after he retired).

Correct, but there often is the issue of the upfront cash signing bonus. Teams have the right to get a prorated portion back, play two years of a four year deal then retire, the team can claw back the unfulfilled two years of signing bonus if they want.

Sometimes with beloved players they do not even try, kind of a parting gift…

 

[Hawkeye]

Saw that Irsay tweeted about his top 4 or 5 NFL players. Included Brown and Brady but did not include, whos that guy? Played QB for the Colts for a few years? Maybe won a championship or two for them? Left and went to the Broncos? What was his name? Come on, Irsay. You don;t think you owe Peyton Manning some props?

 

[Ingomike]

Saw that Irsay tweeted about his top 4 or 5 NFL players. Included Brown and Brady but did not include, whos that guy? Played QB for the Colts for a few years? Maybe won a championship or two for them? Left and went to the Broncos? What was his name? Come on, Irsay. You don;t think you owe Peyton Manning some props?

Maybe he doesn’t think he owes Manning anything. Actually Irsay and Poulian gave Manning everything they possibly could (he had freedom and called the shots like no player I have ever seen) and he only produced one championship.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Saw that Irsay tweeted about his top 4 or 5 NFL players. Included Brown and Brady but did not include, whos that guy? Played QB for the Colts for a few years? Maybe won a championship or two for them? Left and went to the Broncos? What was his name? Come on, Irsay. You don;t think you owe Peyton Manning some props?

I think there’s a difference between “greatest” and “most accomplished”.

Brady is clearly far and away the most accomplished quarterback, BUT he also played under one of the greatest coaches of all time and had a consistently good team around him. Even in Tampa Bay, they sold their future to put together a roster of all-stars for that one year super bowl run.

As far as greatest quarterbacks of all time? Like the best to play the position? Who knows. There’s so many different eras of football, different rules and styles. Would Roger Staubach be a hall of famer if he played in 2020? We’ll never know. In my opinion at least, Manning is definitely in that conversation. He played the actual position of quarterback at unbelievably elite level for darn near two decades.

Manning was the better quarterback, but Brady got the rings so…

Something like golf or tennis, it’s easy to see who’s the best. It’s just harder to figure out with football.

 

[Ingomike]

I think there’s a difference between “greatest” and “most accomplished”.

Brady is clearly far and away the most accomplished quarterback, BUT he also played under one of the greatest coaches of all time and had a consistently good team around him. Even in Tampa Bay, they sold their future to put together a roster of all-stars for that one year super bowl run.

As far as greatest quarterbacks of all time? Like the best to play the position? Who knows. There’s so many different eras of football, different rules and styles. Would Roger Staubach be a hall of famer if he played in 2020? We’ll never know. In my opinion at least, Manning is definitely in that conversation. He played the actual position of quarterback at unbelievably elite level for darn near two decades.

Manning was the better quarterback, but Brady got the rings so…

Something like golf or tennis, it’s easy to see who’s the best. It’s just harder to figure out with football.

Could Manning have played for the best coach of all time?

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Could Manning have played for the best coach of all time?

What do you mean?

Are you asking if Belichick and Manning could’ve worked together?