Colorado Senate Passes Bill to Circumvent Electoral College

[Mongo59]

So, when are the Hunger Games due to start? I mean they are essentially saying "we don't want any say in this" aren't they?

Let's just hand it all over to the big cities, I mean just look at their record, they have it all going on.

Who here wishes they could experience the peaceful utopic existence of say, Chicago.

Who wouldn't want their kid to grow up to be a gangsta? It used to have a negative connotation but now it probably means they hold public office...

 

[T.Lex]

States' rights.

'Tis a subjectively foolish thing to do, but elections have consequences.

 

[KLB]

It will be funny if a Republican wins the popular vote and then wins the election because of these states.

 

[Mongo59]

Not enough blunted steak knives in the liberal arsenal to accommodate their needs...

 

[jamil]

And now the Delaware house has passed this crap...


The Delaware House voted 24-17 to join an alliance of states that want to combine all their Electoral College votes and pledge them to presidential candidates who win the national popular vote.

Good. There wasn't a chance in hell that Delaware could ever give EC votes to a Republican. If the Republican wins the popular vote, they will now.

 

[actaeon277]

It will be funny if a Republican wins the popular vote and then wins the election because of these states.

Egg on face.

 

[jamil]

First time these solid blue states have to give all there electoral votes to republicans those laws will be repealed immediately. Wouldn’t be surprised if some states try to make it retroactive.

 

[Ingomike]

First time these solid blue states have to give all there electoral votes to republicans those laws will be repealed immediately. Wouldn’t be surprised if some states try to make it retroactive.

I still think SCOTUS may rule this a workaround to circumvent the Constitution.

I think the same may happen to the states passing laws that candidates must release tax returns to be on that states ballot. Can you imagine if a Trump and Bernie were the nominees and Trump was not on the ballot in blue states and red states did some stunt to keep Bernie off effectively cancelling out the election?

 

[Ingomike]

After some reading it seems all but certain that SCOTUS would rule this unconstitutional...


It is a bad idea, but does that mean it is unconstitutional? Not on those grounds alone, but the compact clearly violates the plain language of several sections of the Constitution. The first clue is in its title. Any interstate compact must raise the issue of the Compact Clause in Article I of the Constitution, which holds in relevant part that “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress … enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State.”

That’s a pretty strong statement. No penumbras and emanations here, only the unequivocal language of the Constitution that says any compact among the states must be approved by Congress. Even in those analyses of the NPVIC that support its constitutionality, authors admit that “read literally, this provision would require all agreements between states to be approved by both houses of Congress and to be signed by the President before coming into effect.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/0...tutional-way-institute-national-popular-vote/


Good reading and videos here...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44865/trump-slams-democrats-attempts-implement-national-ryan-saavedra

 

[T.Lex]

Interesting (to me) potential unintended consequence: who is on the ballot.

If a candidate knows that Delaware is going to go along with the national popular vote, that candidate may decide it is unnecessary to even campaign in Delaware - or even be on the ballot. Granted, the candidate would hopefully have the resources and foresight to make sure they are, but mistakes are made.

It certainly raises the idea that the electors would be asked to vote in the EC for a candidate that didn't campaign in their state, or even appear on the ballot.

On the constitutional issue, that would be an interesting case to be involved in.

 

[HoughMade]

States' rights.

'Tis a subjectively foolish thing to do, but elections have consequences.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. States' rights mean that the states can arrest FBI and BATFE agents, not that they can decide how to run their own elections.

 

[T.Lex]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. States' rights mean that the states can arrest FBI and BATFE agents, not that they can decide how to run their own elections.

'Tis a good thing I'm tracking multiple threads, or this would not make any sense at all.

 

[Ark]

It will be funny if a Republican wins the popular vote and then wins the election because of these states.

It's amazing that this crap really does seem to be predicated on the assumption that no Republican will ever win the popular vote ever again.

 

[Ingomike]

It's amazing that this crap really does seem to be predicated on the assumption that no Republican will ever win the popular vote ever again.

It is very audacious...

 

[IndyDave1776]

It's amazing that this crap really does seem to be predicated on the assumption that no Republican will ever win the popular vote ever again.

Excellent observation. When we consider for example the number of R voters in California and those who don't vote on account of it not counting, there is plenty of room for this to backfire on the lefties.

 

[printcraft]

It's amazing that this crap really does seem to be predicated on the assumption that no Republican will ever win the popular vote ever again.

Not much of an assumption with all the illegal/fraudulent votes they are pumping into the system. You think it's bad now just WAIT until its "popular vote" only.

 

[Ingomike]

Excellent observation. When we consider for example the number of R voters in California and those who don't vote on account of it not counting, there is plenty of room for this to backfire on the lefties.

Keep in mind, that the Hillary campaign, though 99% certain she would win, thought the worst case was losing the popular vote to Trump, not the EC.

 

[jamil]

Not much of an assumption with all the illegal/fraudulent votes they are pumping into the system. You think it's bad now just WAIT until its "popular vote" only.

Did you see the Veritas video? There was some dude, of course a Florida man (part time), voted straight ticket R in Florida, then voted D in NY, where is permanent residence is. Now this is a weird example indeed. Most double voters vote for the same party. And I think it's pretty wide spread.

 

[indykid]

I wonder if people in Colorado as well as other states considering this will realize that their vote really doesn't count if their state government has the power to override the majority.