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    DadSmith

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    Didn't take long for those who voted for $2000 free money and the $50,000 off student loans to disapprove of Biden and company. Will Americans ever learn that the Democrat Socialist party promises the world and delivers more taxes, higher energy costs, higher food costs basically everything they touch goes up. At the rate things are going up even $15 an hour won't cut it to live on even with food stamps.
     

    Dr.Midnight

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    Didn't take long for those who voted for $2000 free money and the $50,000 off student loans to disapprove of Biden and company. Will Americans ever learn that the Democrat Socialist party promises the world and delivers more taxes, higher energy costs, higher food costs basically everything they touch goes up. At the rate things are going up even $15 an hour won't cut it to live on even with food stamps.
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    Timjoebillybob

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    Yes, I believe the states set their own standards, within an established evidentiary framework, for secure ID. The Feds didn't mandate birth certificate or passport (which is the same thing one step removed) because they couldn't, but they set the standards to have the state's program recognized - but your state (and mine) was willing to impose that requirement

    And, by the way, the constitution doesn't specify any sort of passport, either - yet we have them

    I do not see why it should require more evidence of citizenship to visit the Bahamas than Obama needed to show to run for president
    I don't know Ohio's requirement, but you can get a secure ID in Indiana without a bc or passport. And for the secure ID, the feds could have mandated anything they wanted to, because the reason for the secure ID is to access federal property and to get on planes which the govt says they have the authority to require due to "interstate commerce". Although I was referring to proving someone meets the requirements to run for President.

    And nope the Constitution doesn't say anything about any sort of passport, but it does state that Congress has the power to enact laws regarding the importation and migration of people, doesn't it?

    Why it does require more evidence of citizenship to visit the Bahamas than to run for President is simple, that is what the law requires.
     

    Ingomike

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    I don't know Ohio's requirement, but you can get a secure ID in Indiana without a bc or passport. And for the secure ID, the feds could have mandated anything they wanted to, because the reason for the secure ID is to access federal property and to get on planes which the govt says they have the authority to require due to "interstate commerce". Although I was referring to proving someone meets the requirements to run for President.

    And nope the Constitution doesn't say anything about any sort of passport, but it does state that Congress has the power to enact laws regarding the importation and migration of people, doesn't it?

    Why it does require more evidence of citizenship to visit the Bahamas than to run for President is simple, that is what the law requires.

    So Tomjoebillybob shows up on social media gets huge support and declares to run for president, no one knows him, he just showed up online and 75% of the people support his plans to give each of them 2 million dollars.

    He will not tell us where he was born, how old he is, nor provide any documentation. Just how does a citizen verify he is eligible per the constitution?
     

    printcraft

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    So Tomjoebillybob shows up on social media gets huge support and declares to run for president, no one knows him, he just showed up online and 75% of the people support his plans to give each of them 2 million dollars.

    He will not tell us where he was born, how old he is, nor provide any documentation. Just how does a citizen verify he is eligible per the constitution?

    It's shocking there are still people defending obama. I guess he has his faithful obamaite followers. Sad.
     

    BugI02

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    I don't know Ohio's requirement, but you can get a secure ID in Indiana without a bc or passport. And for the secure ID, the feds could have mandated anything they wanted to, because the reason for the secure ID is to access federal property and to get on planes which the govt says they have the authority to require due to "interstate commerce". Although I was referring to proving someone meets the requirements to run for President.
    But the Federal Govt's power is coercive and not statutory. They cannot tell the states exactly what procedures to enact, they can only create a system that penalizes those that don't meet that criteria they select.

    Below is a link to Indiana's Real ID documentation checklist. Please note that under Section 1 Identity and Section 3 Lawful Status, the criteria must be met either witha BC or passport, or with some derivative documentation that required a BC or passport and is thus not evidence of lacking the requirement but just a process that is once removed from where you have to show the BC or passport (itself once removed from the necessity to show a BC)

    Everything devolves back to a BC and the proof of automatic citizenship


    And nope the Constitution doesn't say anything about any sort of passport, but it does state that Congress has the power to enact laws regarding the importation and migration of people, doesn't it?

    Why it does require more evidence of citizenship to visit the Bahamas than to run for President is simple, that is what the law requires.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    So Tomjoebillybob shows up on social media gets huge support and declares to run for president, no one knows him, he just showed up online and 75% of the people support his plans to give each of them 2 million dollars.

    He will not tell us where he was born, how old he is, nor provide any documentation. Just how does a citizen verify he is eligible per the constitution?
    Don't know, perhaps get your state reps to require proof before a candidate is placed on the ballot. Or maybe your federal reps to do similar.
    It's shocking there are still people defending obama. I guess he has his faithful obamaite followers. Sad.
    Please show where I've defended Obama. And what's sad is that anyone who questions the group think is considered a dem/socialist/Biden/Obama supporter.
     

    OakRiver

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    Didn't take long for those who voted for $2000 free money and the $50,000 off student loans to disapprove of Biden and company. Will Americans ever learn that the Democrat Socialist party promises the world and delivers more taxes, higher energy costs, higher food costs basically everything they touch goes up. At the rate things are going up even $15 an hour won't cut it to live on even with food stamps.
    And the same people who voted for Biden, and who now feel betrayed, will queue up in 4 years and pull the Democrat lever again.
     

    Ingomike

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    Don't know, perhaps get your state reps to require proof before a candidate is placed on the ballot. Or maybe your federal reps to do similar.

    Please show where I've defended Obama. And what's sad is that anyone who questions the group think is considered a dem/socialist/Biden/Obama supporter.
    So basically what you are saying is you have no idea how we are to ascertain that constitutional eligibility but that any suggestions we think are in place or should be are unconstitutional.

    You get lumped in with the left because you argue their points. Like this one, it is heads you win tails I lose...
     

    churchmouse

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    That is insanity!
    But it is what they will do. This is why we will not win this struggle. We are still arguing over daylight savings time for crap sake while they march in lock step even in the very face of the evil they vote for. And yet sooooo many of them are not bad people.
     

    Tombs

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    But it is what they will do. This is why we will not win this struggle. We are still arguing over daylight savings time for crap sake while they march in lock step even in the very face of the evil they vote for. And yet sooooo many of them are not bad people.

    *to your face

    Then when they're behind your back and in the shadows, they vote to effectively end your life. They're evil people who can smile, nothing more.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    But it is what they will do. This is why we will not win this struggle. We are still arguing over daylight savings time for crap sake while they march in lock step even in the very face of the evil they vote for. And yet sooooo many of them are not bad people.
    Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if they made another offer when the time comes, and these same jokers will more than likely fall for the same tomfoolery.

    No morals or pride
     
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