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[nonobaddog]

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[jamil]

Why? You think it out of the realm of possibility that a other virus's and rMNA vaccines can cause aids?

“AIDS stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome: Acquired means you can get infected with it; Immune Deficiency means a weakness in the body's system that fights diseases. Syndrome means a group of health problems that make up a disease. AIDS is caused by a virus called HIV, the Human Immunodeficiency Virus.“. From aids.org.

So it is impossible that another virus or vaccine to combat that virus could be acquired that would cause an immune deficiency in some humans?

Do you have credible, peer reviewed science that shows these vaccines cause aids? Do you have documented cases of aids, verified to have been caused by mrna vaccines?

I believe as well that these can and do have ininteded consequences. But the fact it can is not evidence that any old story that comes along making such claims is true.

Myocarditis, for example, is an unintended consequence. There is documented proof of that. But, is there such proof of aids being caused by these vaccines? If not, it’s pretty nutty to believe it does. If some nutbag claimed that these vaccines cause gayness would you believe that? Is it that anything critical of these vaccines must be automatically, uncritically believed? Seriously. Are there no moments when you read **** like this that you think, dang man, that’s pretty far out there? Nothing?

 

[nonobaddog]

I think it may be good to understand that these acquired immune deficiencies are not rare and they have many causes. HIV gets all the press but that is only one cause. Some are mentioned here...

The Many Causes Of Immune Deficiency

Defects of the immune system lead to increased susceptibility to infection, autoimmune diseases (e.g. inflammatory rheumatism), allergies and sometimes even cancer. An intact immune system, on the other hand, ensures physical health and well-being.

www.sciencedaily.com

"The scientifically interesting PIDs are by far outnumbered by acquired immune deficiencies, caused by factors such as chronic viral infections (such as HIV or hepatitis C), undernutrition, polytrauma, stress after surgery, diabetes, cancer of the lymph nodes, anesthesia influences and others. Many of these secondary immunodeficiencies are treatable today. The ECI congress in Berlin will present many new findings in this area."

 

[nonobaddog]

Do you have credible, peer reviewed science that shows these vaccines cause aids? Do you have documented cases of aids, verified to have been caused by mrna vaccines?

I believe as well that these can and do have ininteded consequences. But the fact it can is not evidence that any old story that comes along making such claims is true.

Myocarditis, for example, is an unintended consequence. There is documented proof of that. But, is there such proof of aids being caused by these vaccines? If not, it’s pretty nutty to believe it does. If some nutbag claimed that these vaccines cause gayness would you believe that? Is it that anything critical of these vaccines must be automatically, uncritically believed? Seriously. Are there no moments when you read **** like this that you think, dang man, that’s pretty far out there? Nothing?

Some fact-checkers say the vaccines do not cause immunodeficiency. What is that worth?

Covid-19 vaccines don’t cause immunodeficiency syndrome - Full Fact

Claims that vaccines are harming immune systems is based on flawed analysis comparing Covid-19 case rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

fullfact.org

 

[Ingomike]

I stopped listening at "causes aids"

Do you have credible, peer reviewed science that shows these vaccines cause aids? Do you have documented cases of aids, verified to have been caused by mrna vaccines?

I believe as well that these can and do have ininteded consequences. But the fact it can is not evidence that any old story that comes along making such claims is true.

Myocarditis, for example, is an unintended consequence. There is documented proof of that. But, is there such proof of aids being caused by these vaccines? If not, it’s pretty nutty to believe it does. If some nutbag claimed that these vaccines cause gayness would you believe that? Is it that anything critical of these vaccines must be automatically, uncritically believed? Seriously. Are there no moments when you read **** like this that you think, dang man, that’s pretty far out there? Nothing?

Not my ****ing monkey. I called out your clear dismissal of the possibility, I say it is possible,did not say it was proven. So you are not balanced enough to hear those out saying they believe it causes aids? You quit?

 

[Ingomike]

I just do not remember seeing these kinds of stories very often…

Coroner identifies teen who died during Lawrence North track practice

A school district spokesperson said the student was a 15-year-old freshman at Lawrence North High School.

www.wthr.com

 

[nonobaddog]

Of all the things a vaccine "might" cause, I would think an immune disorder would be right there on the short list of reasonable suspects.

 

[jamil]

Not my ****ing monkey. I called out your clear dismissal of the possibility, I say it is possible,did not say it was proven. So you are not balanced enough to hear those out saying they believe it causes aids? You quit?

I don’t waste my time hearing out the flat earthers either. And that’s not from lack of balance.

 

[jamil]

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Wow. It seems that fraud involving absentee ballots seems like a very common mode of voter fraud. Who’d have thunk?

Interesting even in the beer virus thread.

 

[wtburnette]

I dunno. Early on I bought into the ******** about masks and "droplets". That turned out to be nonsense.

Early on it was thought that transmission was via bodily fluids and that it was not airborne. When that was the thought, masks were a plausible preventative measure. As soon as it was determined to be airborne, the mask BS should have stopped as a mask is not effective against an airborne virus and everyone (should) know that. That's why I have a huge problem with any business and especially hospitals and doctors who still have mask mandates in place.

I find it odd that the new scare, the monkeypox, is transmitted by bodily fluids and therefore masks should be effective...

 

[jamil]

Had to take my elderly MIL to the doctor yesterday. They required masks. I sat in the parking lot near the employee entrance while waiting. Most of the employees I saw going in and out weren’t wearing them properly. They didn’t care. They were wearing them like they were wearing them because they have to.

 

[wtburnette]

Yep. Last time I was at the doctor, which was last month for my physical, the doctor wouldn't come in the room until I put my mask on (I had it down around my chin while waiting for him in the room by myself). I rolled my eyes and pulled it up over my mouth so he'd come in and do the physical. I won't go back in the office until they drop the mask requirement. Idiots.

 

[jamil]

Some fact-checkers say the vaccines do not cause immunodeficiency. What is that worth?

Covid-19 vaccines don’t cause immunodeficiency syndrome - Full Fact

Claims that vaccines are harming immune systems is based on flawed analysis comparing Covid-19 case rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

fullfact.org

I’d say based on the study sited, the fact-check is probably accurate.

 

[jamil]

Of all the things a vaccine "might" cause, I would think an immune disorder would be right there on the short list of reasonable suspects.

Is every immune disorder aids?

 

[chipbennett]

I believe they're starting to use mRNA with those now also. Either way, I'm out! I can't see how it'd be safe to take any of the vaccines that are available for a multitude of items.

I don't think the issue is with mRNA as a delivery mechanism, but rather is that this virus is too mutable to be a good candidate for vaccines, period. (There is a reason that vaccines haven't eliminated the threat of influenza.)

From hhs.gov below.

Vaccine Types

There are several different types of vaccines. Each type is designed to teach your immune system how to fight off germs—and the serious diseases they cause.

www.hhs.gov

The future of vaccines

Did you know that scientists are still working to create new types of vaccines? Here are 2 exciting examples:

DNA vaccines are easy and inexpensive to make—and they produce strong, long-term immunity.
Recombinant vector vaccines (platform-based vaccines) act like a natural infection, so they're especially good at teaching the immune system how to fight germs.

I bold printed EXCITING. I know there's some, but how many people could actually be excited about all the available shots after the disaster of the last 2 years?

I don't know much about DNA vaccines, but recombinant vectors are potentially a really good technology.

 

[chipbennett]

I stopped listening at "causes aids"

Yep.

My personal theory is that Covid, for whatever reason (and maybe for various reasons) makes people more susceptible to the effects of all manner of disorders that they already had and/or were at risk for (e.g. the metabolic disorders, cardiovascular issues, inflammation-related disorders, etc.).

But mostly, I just weep at the lack/loss of critical thinking skills that allows the illogical conclusions such as "the Covid vaccine causes AIDS".

 

[chipbennett]

Why? You think it out of the realm of possibility that a other virus's and rMNA vaccines can cause aids?

“AIDS stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome: Acquired means you can get infected with it; Immune Deficiency means a weakness in the body's system that fights diseases. Syndrome means a group of health problems that make up a disease. AIDS is caused by a virus called HIV, the Human Immunodeficiency Virus.“. From aids.org.

So it is impossible that another virus or vaccine to combat that virus could be acquired that would cause an immune deficiency in some humans?

There is an entire spectrum of autoimmune disorders (Celiac, Crohn's disease, Hashimoto's, rheumatoid arthritis, and many, many more). They are not all called "AIDS".

Has Covid exposed people to the effects of autoimmune disorders? It seems so. It also seems that such people were either already at risk for those disorders, or had them but their immune system was able to mitigate their effects. Is there any real evidence of de novo autoimmune disorders caused by the vaccine?

 

[tim87tr]

Yep.

My personal theory is that Covid, for whatever reason (and maybe for various reasons) makes people more susceptible to the effects of all manner of disorders that they already had and/or were at risk for (e.g. the metabolic disorders, cardiovascular issues, inflammation-related disorders, etc.).

But mostly, I just weep at the lack/loss of critical thinking skills that allows the illogical conclusions such as "the Covid vaccine causes AIDS".

I follow Dr. Malone. Personally I think the vaccine is causing all sorts of problems and have seen it first hand. If the shots lower a person's immunity, why would that not create AIDS? See this video...

Cancers Taking Off Like Wildfire and Reemerging Latent Disease: Dr. Malone Discusses Vaccine-Induced AIDS

"CMV, herpes, shingles, Epstein-Barr Virus, these are all latent DNA viruses that are kept in their box by the T function. And so, seeing all these things pop up is another sign of [dysregulated T cel

rumble.com

 

[nonobaddog]

Is every immune disorder aids?

Every acquired immunodeficiency syndrome is AIDS. It is an umbrella term for a set of symptoms but it has been taken over in the press and conversation to be one specific disorder - that being the one caused by human immunodeficiency virus, HIV. This was originally and more properly called HIV/AIDS and then shortened to just AIDS.

There are two main divisions in immunodeficiency - Primary and Acquired. Primary ones are inherited so you are born with them. Acquired ones are picked up, typically by exposure to some outside antigen.
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome(AIDS) is any non-hereditary condition where part of the immune system is disabled or suppressed. This can be temporary such as when taking some steroids or some chemotherapy drugs or more permanent.

Again - this term has been taken over by the homosexual crowd just like they took over the word gay as well as rainbows. This shouldn't remove the original meaning of any of them - aids is the symptoms of a non-inherited compromised immune system, gay is happy or carefree and rainbows are a promise of no more huge floods as well as an optical effect of airborne water droplets on sunlight.

 

[nonobaddog]

There is an entire spectrum of autoimmune disorders (Celiac, Crohn's disease, Hashimoto's, rheumatoid arthritis, and many, many more). They are not all called "AIDS".

They are not called AIDS because autoimmune disorders are very different than immunodeficiency. Immunodeficiency is when part of the immune system isn't functioning. Autoimmune disorders are almost the opposite and are characterized by the immune system attacking healthy tissue.