Battle rifle

[Robert Richardson]

So this just might be because I am under 30 but to me that is kinda a retro Rhodesian bush war rifle , when I think FAL I tend to think about the modernized options from companies like DSA

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Mine is basically a standard FAL STG with a 16 inch barrel. Lower is FN 1958, upper is Gear Logo Imbel, barrel is DSA 16 inch with DSA muzzle brake. Yes, it is loud.
I'm not much into the " modern " stuff from DSA. It appears that the DSA stuff today is kinda hit or miss. This rifle is as dependable as they come. The adjustable gas system is the bomb. While not as accurate or accessory friendly as the AR10, I can shoot it all day long and my shoulder doesn't notice it, not like the AR10.

 

[Tombs]

Honest question , why does a battle rifle not have optics? I would consider an FAL to be a battle rifle, and while it has to be modernized slightly it can attach optics. Optics in this day and age are such a huge advantage IMHO it is foolish to give up that capability.

I didn't say no optics.

I said no magnification.
If you can run an automatic 7.62 from the shoulder with magnification, you might just be superman.

 

[LarryC]

I have a few "Battle" rifles. Couple of Garands, M1 Carbine, Russian SVD 40, LR-308, 5 or 6 AR15's, AK, Sks's, etc. Did not count the Bolt actions like the Swiss, Swedish, Enfield, Mosin's
etc. :>}.

 

[55fairlane]

I got a battle rifle, Smith Corona 03a4

 

[ditcherman]

I didn't say no optics.

I said no magnification.
If you can run an automatic 7.62 from the shoulder with magnification, you might just be superman.

So to continue down that definition, does a battle rifle have to have auto capability?
I think I know the answer, it just sounded like “auto” was the “why” and I would assume bolt guns can be battle rifles.
Why not have the option with todays LPVO’s, unless I’m on the wrong page and this conversation is about the definition of historically accurate battle rifles?

 

[Tombs]

So to continue down that definition, does a battle rifle have to have auto capability?
I think I know the answer, it just sounded like “auto” was the “why” and I would assume bolt guns can be battle rifles.
Why not have the option with todays LPVO’s, unless I’m on the wrong page and this conversation is about the definition of historically accurate battle rifles?

Technically speaking, yes it needs to be select fire to be a battle rifle. Just as an assault rifle is defined by selective fire.

 

[Hop]

There's no select fire on an M1 Garand. I consider that a battle rifle.

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[Karl-just-Karl]

There's no select fire on an M1 Garand. I consider that a battle rifle.

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As much as folks here try to argue anything and everything. Sir, I believe that comment is check and mate!

Aside from that, I though all battle rifles had to be at least .30 cal?

 

[mammynun]

I'm one of those "mission drives the gear" kinda people, so I have a very broad definition of what I would consider to be a Battle Rifle.

 

[daddyusmaximus]

I didn't say no optics.

I said no magnification.
If you can run an automatic 7.62 from the shoulder with magnification, you might just be superman.

Old school battle rifle... No magnification...
No select fire on this either...

 

[Mgderf]

Decided to get a battle rifle together (or atleast what I think of as a battle rifle) saw this DD5V4 at the lgs and couldn't leave without it , just now starting to look at what optics and accessories I'd like to use
Let's see those battle rifle setups

Now you've gone and done it.
"Battle rifles" should be treated like Lay's potato chips.

No-one should have just one...

 

[Refrigerator27]

I need a bayonet

 

[Leo]

What are you competent using? What can you readily get your hands on? What does your ammo supply look like? Don't forget a lot of forward patrols in Vietnam had men assigned with a 12 gauge pump gun and 00 buckshot because a lot of fire fights were really up close. And there were tunnel rats with revolvers.

A battle hardened soldier with an 03-A3 may be more effective than a non experienced man with a SAW. No firearm is magic if you are not up to snuff.

 

[Mongo59]

Here is one that doubles as a javelin with bayonet attached...


Check out the sight radius on this one. Makes you want to reach out and touch someone.

 

[Mongo59]

This was our battle rifle in the late 1800's

 

[Mongo59]

It was replaced by this...

 

[Mongo59]

Then in 1903...

 

[ditcherman]

This was our battle rifle in the late 1800's

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By “our” I assume you mean yours and CM’s? I knew some of you were old but….

 

[Mongo59]

CM was around when the dead sea was only feeling sick...

 

[TheJoker]

Which battle?