Official 2024 POTUS Election Thread

[KG1]

I don't agree with that assessment. A lot of them seem to see those "flaws" as assets.

Well those are the people that vote for him anyway. I'm taking about those that are not so willing to overlook those character flaws. Will there be enough of them?

Based on your point I don't believe there will be.

 

[KLB]

Well those are the people that vote for him anyway. I'm taking about those that are not so willing to overlook those character flaws. Will there be enough of them?

Based on your point I don't believe there will be.

I think they will come out. The question is how many for others will come out. Trumpers vs Never-Trumpers for the R nomination.

 

[KG1]

I think they will come out. The question is how many for others will come out. Trumpers vs Never-Trumpers for the R nomination.

Hence my question. Will there be enough for others? We all already know there is a sizable contingent that will still show up for Trump no matter what and that puts him at the odds-on favorite.. The other is still an unknown at this point.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think they will come out. The question is how many for others will come out. Trumpers vs Never-Trumpers for the R nomination.

2015/16 were novel years. Trump was the new/fresh face (so to speak). All the other candidates were the usual fare the GOP trots out each cycle for us to choose from. This next cycle is not 2015/2016. How many formally Trump voters will be only-Trumpers and how many will "have seen this show before" and are looking to move on? I think that will be a key question.

 

[jamil]

I’ll see you and raise…

Report: Chris Christie to Announce 2024 Presidential Bid Next Week

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) plans to announce his candidacy in the 2024 presidential race on Tuesday, a report claimed.

www.breitbart.com

I mean. C’mon. Trump doesn’t even need to campaign against that. But if he’s in a playful mood, he can recirculate the photo of a humiliated Chris Christie standing behind Trump at the press conference in FL doing absolutely nothing but being Trump’s bitch trophy. Like a fat ass puss bag.

 

[KG1]

2015/16 were novel years. Trump was the new/fresh face (so to speak). All the other candidates were the usual fare the GOP trots out each cycle for us to choose from. This next cycle is not 2015/2016. How many formally Trump voters will be only-Trumpers and how many will "have seen this show before" and are looking to move on? I think that will be a key question.

I think it was Kurt Schlichter that said he was able to thread the primary needle once, can he do it again? Like you said. We shall see. I still think he's the betting odds-on favorite at this point though IMO.

 

[jamil]

I think policy wise not many can show they have a proven record of some success on a national scale that Trump has, so he's a win there and many think that's the most important thing. That's what keeps him at the top of the list.

While I agree that Trump did have some really good wins, but to some, it’s more than just taking the good while accepting the bad as a necessarily evil. It’s more of a cult-like following where they see the miserable fumbles as if they’re wins too. Like the bump stock ban was just Trump trying to save gun owners from more legislation, so therefore “winning”.

As far as other tangibles his unseemly character flaws is what make him lag far behind all others, I think it's undeniable even for Trump supporters. and those are the reasons why he isn't so palatable to others, and they would rather not have to vote for him again.

So realistically though I think enough voters will be focused on column A and that will carry him to the nomination.

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Well, there’s a lot of ‘em. And some of them have all but promised to sit the election out if Trump isn’t nominated. I strongly suspect Trump will win the nomination if he’s not in jail. Well hell. Even if he is in jail.

 

[KG1]

Some say that betting odds are an even better indicator than polling is. So far at this point in all of the polling aggregates AND the latest betting odds Trump is at the top of the list for nominee by far.

2024 Republican Party Presidential Nominee Odds | SBD

See who online sportsbooks are picking to win the 2024 Republican Party Presidential bid with a selection of updated graphs and tables. Isolate each candidate or compare them to others trending in the same direction.

www.sportsbettingdime.com

Timeline of GOP Nominee Odds Updates​

• May 30, 2023: Donald Trump (-208) has widened his lead on Ron DeSantis (+255) in the latest GOP nomination odds for the 2024 presidential election. No other candidate is shorter than +2500 (Nikki Haley).

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think it was Kurt Schlichter that said he was able to thread the primary needle once, can he do it again? Like you said. We shall see. I still think he's the betting odds-on favorite at this point though IMO.

Sure he is. He’s the “incumbent” and incumbents typically have the edge.

 

[jamil]

I think they will come out. The question is how many for others will come out. Trumpers vs Never-Trumpers for the R nomination.

I mean the whole neverTrumper thing is just retarded. So is the ABT. The complainants wouldn’t know a real ass neverTrumper from a former Trump voter who would vote for Trump if he had to.

It’s really a coalition of people who would rather see someone better than Trump win the nomination. And yeah, there are some legit neverTrumpers in that group. Maybe DeSantis is that guy. Or maybe he turns out to be a schmuck. But if the next best candidate is someone like Haley, Pence, or the fat ass puss bag, I’m in for Trump, despite the fatal flaws.

 

[KLB]

I mean the whole neverTrumper thing is just retarded. So is the ABT. The complainants wouldn’t know a real ass neverTrumper from a former Trump voter who would vote for Trump if he had to.

It’s really a coalition of people who would rather see someone better than Trump win the nomination. And yeah, there are some legit neverTrumpers in that group. Maybe DeSantis is that guy. Or maybe he turns out to be a schmuck. But if the next best candidate is someone like Haley, Pence, or the fat ass puss bag, I’m in for Trump, despite the fatal flaws.

Same here. So far there are only two real choices. I'll see what things look like when it gets around to being our turn to vote.

 

[rhamersley]

This should get everyone excited by the possibility...

'No, I Haven’t': Bolton Doesn't Rule Out Running for President

Former Trump administration National Security Advisor John Bolton said Wednesday on "CNN Primetime" that he is still considering entering the Republican presidential primary. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

 

[KLB]

This should get everyone excited by the possibility...

'No, I Haven’t': Bolton Doesn't Rule Out Running for President

Former Trump administration National Security Advisor John Bolton said Wednesday on "CNN Primetime" that he is still considering entering the Republican presidential primary. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

 

[Ingomike]

The big wildcard will be several coming indictments of Trump. These politically motivated attacks on a former/president/candidate will boost his turnout and suck all the oxygen from the other candidates and even legit attacks by competitors will be seen by many as piling on and not AF…

 

[BugI02]

Being realistic I don't really see anyone wresting the top spot away from Trump, including RDS. I suppose anything can happen between now and then but I'm not really seeing it at this point.

His immigration bill apparently is already costing him support among the legal immigrants in his state. Tough to tell at this point how much it is being hyped and by whom, but there is a 'one day' boycott by minority owned businesses scheduled. We'll have to see how wide spread that is as well as whether it goes beyond just one day (there is some indication it might)

I'll be interested in seeing how he balances competing demands by his voters (and whether a majority of his [Florida] voters were even demanding such action or it turns out he was too focused on national voters)

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

His immigration bill apparently is already costing him support among the legal immigrants in his state. Tough to tell at this point how much it is being hyped and by whom, but there is a 'one day' boycott by minority owned businesses scheduled. We'll have to see how wide spread that is as well as whether it goes beyond just one day (there is some indication it might)

I'll be interested in seeing how he balances competing demands by his voters (and whether a majority of his [Florida] voters were even demanding such action or it turns out he was too focused on national voters)

Will Trump attack him from the left or right on immigration? No one could get to the right of him in his first campaign.

 

[KG1]

The big wildcard will be several coming indictments of Trump. These politically motivated attacks on a former/president/candidate will boost his turnout and suck all the oxygen from the other candidates and even legit attacks by competitors will be seen by many as piling on and not AF…

I can see that. I think that gives a reason to fight back and stiffen the resolve of Trump supporters to turnout against the obvious politically motivated onslaught directed at Trump.

Even that bull**** turns me off way more and makes me defend Trump.

 

[rhamersley]

Political Analysts Confirm That Chris Christie Will Eat The Competition’s Lunch

U.S. — According to sources, former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie will announce his candidacy for president next week. Already, several political analysts are predicting that he will eat the competition's lunch.

babylonbee.com

"Make no mistake, every Republican candidate in this race is in danger of having his or her lunch eaten by Chris Christie," said statistician Nate Silver. "He will also eat their breakfast, their dinner, and any snacks they may have lying around. No candidate is safe."

 

[BugI02]

Well, there’s a lot of ‘em. And some of them have all but promised to sit the election out if Trump isn’t nominated. I strongly suspect Trump will win the nomination if he’s not in jail. Well hell. Even if he is in jail.

So, then, where to go from there if you REALLY want to stop the destruction of the country? Work to get as many people behind Trump who aren't there yet because we'll need the numbers not only to win but to scare the establishment wing into getting out of the way of America First? Or cling to the idea (that you just torpedoed) that somehow someone else will be the Republican candidate and do what you can to depress turnout even after the point of no return because you don't like him?

Smart money says B. The groundwork is already laid to blame Trump for the next loss. Either he is the candidate but loses because the electorate has been purposely divided by the same 'conservative' elements that refused to support him/worked against him in 2015-16 or he isn't the candidate and the same enthusiasm gap causes 'the next Trump' to lose but Trump is still blamed for it as if it doesn't take two sides to create a divide

I'm afraid the people who are still doing just fine and just want the culture wars to go away won't be able to throw off their delusions until their Instacart and Doordash drivers are already in the re-education camps and their only option is to don their rainbow Star of David and get in the boxcars too

 

[KG1]

His immigration bill apparently is already costing him support among the legal immigrants in his state. Tough to tell at this point how much it is being hyped and by whom, but there is a 'one day' boycott by minority owned businesses scheduled. We'll have to see how wide spread that is as well as whether it goes beyond just one day (there is some indication it might)

I'll be interested in seeing how he balances competing demands by his voters (and whether a majority of his [Florida] voters were even demanding such action or it turns out he was too focused on national voters)

Do you think that his stance on illegal immigration and the border doesn't cater to national voters which he needs to do? Seems to me that it would carry some weight nationally.