DeSantis 2024?

[jamil]

America First. It’s generally the idea that American government’s first responsibility is its own people. And then adopting policies pursuant to that.

 

[nonobaddog]

America First. It’s generally the idea that American government’s first responsibility is its own people. And then adopting policies pursuant to that.

Thanks.
Now I can read the post and make some sense of it.

 

[jamil]

Now let's address this "controversy" that keeps popping up and whack that mole about DeSantis and Ukraine where he clarified his position in a Piers Morgan interview about his comment that it was merely a "territorial dispute" which some critics took his comment to mean that Russia is entitled to that territory over Ukraine. He never said that.

In addressing that "mischaracterization" as he put it by those critics, he agreed that Putin was wrong for invading Ukraine and he said the idea that he thinks somehow Russia was justified [in invading] is nonsense. He never "walked back" this in that interview though about what he said about it not being of vitally important national interest. The following quotes. from the same Piers Morgan interview, I submit is an indication of that that.

That pretty much represents my opinion of it. Russia had no right to invade Ukraine. Russia is in the wrong there. But, it's not US's responsibility to police such territorial disputes and we are not morally compelled to intervene. So calling it a territorial dispute does not mean I think Russia is in the right.

* My interpretation added


IMO DeSantis has correctly said and still believes that there are more pressing vitally important national interests right now than the Russian/Ukraine war. What he hasn't "walked back" are these comments he made in response to Tucker Carlson's Ukraine Twitter questionnaire in March of 2023.

Again, I think this is correct. And also I would add, the US should oppose giving Ukraine NATO membership. I still like the policy of making Ukraine a "buffer" nation between NATO countries and Russia.

 

[KG1]

Apparently some Trumpers are starting in with the dirt. Couple of examples of some fake doctoring here.

MSN

www.msn.com

Deepfake of Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis recirculates online

A video that appears to show Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis for president is spreading online as the Florida governor prepares to launch a 2024 US election bid. But the clip is manipulated; it includes fabricated audio dubbed over a December 2021 interview featuring the former secretary...

factcheck.afp.com

 

[nonobaddog]

Apparently some Trumpers are stating in with the dirt. Couple of examples of some fake doctoring here.

MSN

www.msn.com

Deepfake of Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis recirculates online

A video that appears to show Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis for president is spreading online as the Florida governor prepares to launch a 2024 US election bid. But the clip is manipulated; it includes fabricated audio dubbed over a December 2021 interview featuring the former secretary...

factcheck.afp.com

Could just as easily be the left doing that. Although this one is a little funny so that might tend to lean away from the left doing it.

 

[KG1]

Could just as easily be the left doing that. Although this one is a little funny so that might tend to lean away from the left doing it.

Highly doubt they both originated from the left.

"Some Twitter users pointed out that Alex Bruesewitz, a pro-Trump social media personality, appears to have first posted and subsequently deleted the altered version of the image."


"A watermark below the MSNBC logo indicates the clip comes from a pro-Donald Trump meme account called "Ramble Rants,"

 

[jamil]

Apparently some Trumpers are stating in with the dirt. Couple of examples of some fake doctoring here.

MSN

www.msn.com

Deepfake of Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis recirculates online

A video that appears to show Hillary Clinton endorsing Ron DeSantis for president is spreading online as the Florida governor prepares to launch a 2024 US election bid. But the clip is manipulated; it includes fabricated audio dubbed over a December 2021 interview featuring the former secretary...

factcheck.afp.com

Well. I guess if you want to fight, whoever is the best liar wins. So who’s the best liar. Trump or DeSantis?

 

[oze]

Well. I guess if you want to fight, whoever is the best liar wins. So who’s the best liar. Trump or DeSantis?

Trump. No contest.

 

[nonobaddog]

Highly doubt they both originated from the left.

"Some Twitter users pointed out that Alex Bruesewitz, a pro-Trump social media personality, appears to have first posted and subsequently deleted the altered version of the image."


"A watermark below the MSNBC logo indicates the clip comes from a pro-Donald Trump meme account called "Ramble Rants,"

I would believe the first one more, the Alex post. When you are altering things, any watermarks are meaningless.

 

[jamil]

Could just as easily be the left doing that. Although this one is a little funny so that might tend to lean away from the left doing it.

It’s what fiercely loyal supporters do though, right? Anything to win, right? Lie. Cheat. Whatever it takes. A fighter. DeSantis better inspire some more fiercely loyal supporters on his side to compete.

Ooh. I know. DeSantis supporters could spread some story that Trump ****ed a porn star while his wife was pregnant. Wait. That was real, and everyone already knows about it. Come to think about it, there is no lie bad enough. They could AI a video of Trump giving Soros head. They’d brag about his technique.

 

[KG1]

I would believe the first one more, the Alex post. When you are altering things, any watermarks are meaningless.

Except ramble rants admitted it. IDK what more you need. Click the archive link and scroll down a couple of tweets for your answer.

https://archive.is/QTTmK

 

[nonobaddog]

Except ramble rants admitted it. IDK what more you need. Click the link and scroll down a couple of tweets for your answer.

https://archive.is/QTTmK

That seems pretty good to me. And he did a good job of it.

 

[nonobaddog]

It is too bad politics is such a totally negative thing. All they do is throw crap at the other guy, doesn't even matter if it is true any more. You barely hear any of them bragging about anything good that they want credit for not doing.
I think the last time there was a completely positive campaign was when Lar beat Og for head Mooba of the entire Paleolithic Prefecture.

 

[KG1]

It’s what fiercely loyal supporters do though, right? Anything to win, right? Lie. Cheat. Whatever it takes. A fighter. DeSantis better inspire some more fiercely loyal supporters on his side to compete.

Ooh. I know. DeSantis supporters could spread some story that Trump ****ed a porn star while his wife was pregnant. Wait. That was real, and everyone already knows about it. Come to think about it, there is no lie bad enough. They could AI a video of Trump giving Soros head. They’d brag about his technique.

I suppose some here would excuse it and say all's fair in a street fight. You better learn to fight dirty. Except they wouldn't hesitate to cry FOUL! if it was done to their choice.

 

[Ingomike]

Times are a'changin'

Nope, they are the same, Trump is raising money from small donors, not big donors…

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

“Well, first, we need an honest reckoning about what happened during COVID,” remarked Governor DeSantis. “And the only honest reckoning is that all of those [health] agencies, all of the elites, the public health establishment, they failed. They instituted bad policies,” he expressed.

“Obviously, it’s a novel virus. But I think what happened was when the data was becoming more and more apparent that the path they were on was wrong, they doubled down and wanted to do it even more. And I really believe had Florida not just kind of stood in the way, I think this country would have had rolling lockdowns for probably a two-year period,” the Florida Governor attested.

“And so, their impulses were authoritarian. They were not following the data. And I think the U.S. government needs to acknowledge the failures. And I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out,” asserted Governor DeSantis.

“What I saw, just dealing with them, was I saw an interest in the narrative and in politics over evidence-based reasoning and evidence-based medicine. And so, I don’t have confidence that those agencies are up to the task. And I think you need major, major overhaul of the whole enchilada with respect to public health in this country.”

We Need a COVID ‘Reckoning,’ Says Governor DeSantis in Elon Musk Twitter Space Event

“I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out.”

dailyclout.io

 

[jamil]

That seems pretty good to me. And he did a good job of it.

Well. HAL did a good job of it.

 

[jamil]

“Well, first, we need an honest reckoning about what happened during COVID,” remarked Governor DeSantis. “And the only honest reckoning is that all of those [health] agencies, all of the elites, the public health establishment, they failed. They instituted bad policies,” he expressed.

“Obviously, it’s a novel virus. But I think what happened was when the data was becoming more and more apparent that the path they were on was wrong, they doubled down and wanted to do it even more. And I really believe had Florida not just kind of stood in the way, I think this country would have had rolling lockdowns for probably a two-year period,” the Florida Governor attested.

“And so, their impulses were authoritarian. They were not following the data. And I think the U.S. government needs to acknowledge the failures. And I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out,” asserted Governor DeSantis.

“What I saw, just dealing with them, was I saw an interest in the narrative and in politics over evidence-based reasoning and evidence-based medicine. And so, I don’t have confidence that those agencies are up to the task. And I think you need major, major overhaul of the whole enchilada with respect to public health in this country.”

We Need a COVID ‘Reckoning,’ Says Governor DeSantis in Elon Musk Twitter Space Event

“I think all of those [health] agencies need to be cleaned out.”

dailyclout.io

An honest reckoning? You mean “I saved millions of lives,” isn’t honest?

 

[BugI02]

There are about 30,000 to 40,000 bears in california. Fortunately they are black bears that rarely attack or eat people. I'm glad you didn't need the edged weapons and made it back.

The edged weapons were to make me feel more comfortable around my fellow man

 

[BugI02]

Well, I hope not. That was kinda the point. Trumpers say a negative for DeSantis is that he’s unproven on the national stage. We don’t know what he’ll do. Well. That can work both ways.

What about the fact that he folds easier than a camp chair? That was a moment on the national stage and it wasn't pretty