If you’ve chosen not to take a Covid vaccine for whatever reason(s), it may be wise to reassess occasionally.

[firecadet613]

My twins’ pediatrician is recommending they get the COVID-19 vaccine (they just turned 6). He’s a super conservative guy and we trust him greatly but this is a very difficult decision, one we have not made yet. Their doctor says kids are still getting seriously ill from COVID-19 and those who do end up with a much higher incidence of myocarditis than that linked to vaccine use. Once diagnosed with myocarditis, a child cannot resume strenuous physical activity without an electrocardiogram according to him.

I'd listen to Dr Peter McCullough on the Joe Rogan show...or do some digging on what he's put out. Also take a look at his qualifications...

 

[jsharmon7]

I'd listen to Dr Peter McCullough on the Joe Rogan show...or do some digging on what he's put out. Also take a look at his qualifications...

You’d listen to a guy who appeared on a podcast instead of the guy who has been your kids’ trusted pediatrician? A guy who actually examines and treats your children?

 

[indyjs]

Medical community has lost much of their credibility. They depend on the Govt for the license, Insurance and Govt for reimbursement. To think they can give an unbiased opinion is silly. All transparency on this issue has been shut down and medications have been banned forcing the use of the experimental gene therapy. Difficult to trust anyone

 

[Ingomike]

You’d listen to a guy who appeared on a podcast instead of the guy who has been your kids’ trusted pediatrician? A guy who actually examines and treats your children?

Most “trusted pediatricians” either sold their practice to a mega system or work for them. Most certainly have no specific expertise related to this politicized virus.

 

[BigRed]

Medical community has lost much of their credibility. They depend on the Govt for the license, Insurance and Govt for reimbursement. To think they can give an unbiased opinion is silly. All transparency on this issue has been shut down and medications have been banned forcing the use of the experimental gene therapy. Difficult to trust anyone

Indeed.

Dead on balls accurate.

 

[ditcherman]

You’d listen to a guy who appeared on a podcast instead of the guy who has been your kids’ trusted pediatrician? A guy who actually examines and treats your children?

McCullough actually addresses this in the podcast; says there are about a million doctors in the US (IIRC) and claims about 500 that know the actual truth, the others are just along for the ride, either inclined to believe whatever they’re told, or afraid to be skeptical, or can’t afford to go against the grain for whatever reason.
Not really “just a guy who appeared on a podcast” either.
The guy makes a lot of sense.

 

[HoughMade]

McCullough actually addresses this in the podcast; says there are about a million doctors in the US (IIRC) and claims about 500 that know the actual truth, the others are just along for the ride, either inclined to believe whatever they’re told, or afraid to be skeptical, or can’t afford to go against the grain for whatever reason.
Not really “just a guy who appeared on a podcast” either.
The guy makes a lot of sense.

Why trust him over any number of docs with equal or better credentials? Seriously. What makes him the accurate ones and the other inaccurate? This is not a rhetorical question.

 

[firecadet613]

Why trust him over any number of docs with equal or better credentials? Seriously. What makes him the accurate ones and the other inaccurate? This is not a rhetorical question.

Look at Dr McCullough's credentials...

 

[ditcherman]

Why trust him over any number of docs with equal or better credentials? Seriously. What makes him the accurate ones and the other inaccurate? This is not a rhetorical question.

Equal or better? Who is that?

If you listen, he will be happy to tell you why and how qualified he is, almost to annoyance, but I believe he is better qualified than many.

He just makes some very logical points, things that have been discussed on here at length, asking why things were/weren’t done.
This guy is claiming that 85% of the 800K deaths were preventable, if our “leadership” would have acted correctly. That’s a bold claim, but he lays out a path for it.

 

[firecadet613]

You’d listen to a guy who appeared on a podcast instead of the guy who has been your kids’ trusted pediatrician? A guy who actually examines and treats your children?

I'd assume most pediatricians aren't nearly as qualified to discuss the vaccine as Dr McCullough is. Look at his credentials and get back to us.

FWIW, our pediatrician hasn't mentioned it and many others have said kids don't need the jab...

My PCP never brought it up either...

 

[Ingomike]

FWIW, our pediatrician hasn't mentioned it and many others have said kids don't need the jab...

My PCP never brought it up either...

Most of my friends have said similar, even some those with the mega systems…

 

[rosejm]

It actually has a higher rate of deadly side effects. Even though the FDA told us for over a year that it was perfectly safe.

There's some additional investigation needed for the Pfizer jab as well. As has been mentioned, the full story is not being reported.

And don't let the rumble platform lead you astray, there's a PDF version from the Canadian Covid Care Alliance that the video is based on.

The Pfizer Inoculations Do More Harm Than Good

BREAKING: Pfizer's own 6 month report data on its COVID-19 inoculation shows that greater illness and death in the inoculation arm than the placebo arm. Plus, poor trial design, missing data, underpow

rumble.com

 

[firecadet613]

 

[BigRed]

I am not a scientist.
I am not an expert.
I am not even a mathmatician.

Nonethelesss, I am willing to share my analyisis.

I will die.

You will die.

Those who fancy themselves as "leaders" will die while protecting an ego...that will die.

 

[jsharmon7]

Why trust him over any number of docs with equal or better credentials? Seriously. What makes him the accurate ones and the other inaccurate? This is not a rhetorical question.

Because he tells them what they want to hear. Cbhausen didn’t even mention his doctor’s credentials, yet this crowd dismissed him as being bought and paid for. Whether his advice was based on direct professional experience, a new study, etc. didn’t matter. And McCullough certainly couldn’t have any ulterior motives. I mean, he used to be a cardiologist at Baylor, which is automatically better than any active pediatrician. They immediately assume podcast guy is more trustworthy without even hearing the pediatrician’s name. He’s been trusting his kids to him for years presumably, but who cares about all that when a guy on a celebrity podcast is telling them what they want to hear. For all the claims of everyone else being sheep, this group is the biggest culprit.

Why even go to a pediatrician if you’re going to ignore him in favor of whatever the last guest on Rogan said?

 

[firecadet613]

Why even go to a pediatrician if you’re going to ignore him in favor of whatever the last guest on Rogan said?

I think you're missing the basic point, what pediatrician is recommending the covid jab? As said above, mine isn't bringing it up, friends said theirs say not to give it to kids.

My 4 year old brought it home from daycare (only way exposure we could have had - given that daycare was forced to closed due to too many teachers testing positive). Zero symptoms and no ill effects. That's first hand knowledge, hard to beat that. So tell me, why on earth would they need vaccinated? Especially given the vaxxed can still get it and spread it...

The data is there, covid does not really impact children. But you want to give them an experimental jab with no longer term effects known? What other mRNA jabs have been given to children in the past?

Feel free to vax your kids, just be ready for whatever side effects they have years down the road...

 

[mbills2223]

I found another reason to reassess periodically yesterday. After all this time I finally decided to get the vaccine. Decided that the J&J was the one that suited me the best. Got to the inoculation site, waited 45 minutes in line to register only to be told that they no longer gave the J&J at that site. Was instructed to revisit the State website and pick a site that had the J&J. The ironic thing was that one hour prior, the State website showed this particular site did dispense J&J.

Fired off an email to Dr. Box about the situation. To my surprise I received a reply. Turns out that IDOH made the decision on 12/17 to discontinue dispensing J&J. A search showed nothing published regarding this change in dispensing policy.

Found out CVS and Walgreen aren't dispensing the J&J. They stopped back in August from what I can find in news releases.

I ended up going to an independent pharmacy in Greenfield to receive the J&J.

So the moral to this story: If you are sitting on the fence and thinking that if you are 'forced' to get vaccinated, you'll go with a J&J, you may find it in limited supply. It won't be from demand, but from bureaucratic policy decisions.

It's been on backorder nearly the entire year. The limited supply has nothing to do with the recent happenings. A ton of vaccination sites receive their COVID vaccine from the fed supply, not state. What was the lot # on the one you received if you don't mind? I thought all the circulating J&J had expired.

 

[Alpo]

You’d listen to a guy who appeared on a podcast instead of the guy who has been your kids’ trusted pediatrician? A guy who actually examines and treats your children?

My dad used to be like that. He'd ask one of his boys for advice on some subject that they were very knowledgeable about (or in a skilled profession with knowledge of the subject matter). We'd find out a week or so later that he had rejected the advice and listened to a guy in line at an Armenian restaurant. A complete stranger!

WTF is wrong with people?

My dad never changed. Good thing he died before Joe Rogen.

 

[qwerty]

It is interesting to hear about the difference of opinions among pediatricians. When I tested positive, I called our pediatrician (July 21), and his response was really, do nothing for them, if they get it they may sneeze a few times or cough a few times, but generally you will not notice anything. He said his office was a ghost town for flu/covid.

He was right, I had it, my wife had long covid and ended up in the hospital in August, kids kept on trucking.... They could have taken over.

 

[ditcherman]

Because he tells them what they want to hear. Cbhausen didn’t even mention his doctor’s credentials, yet this crowd dismissed him as being bought and paid for. Whether his advice was based on direct professional experience, a new study, etc. didn’t matter. And McCullough certainly couldn’t have any ulterior motives. I mean, he used to be a cardiologist at Baylor, which is automatically better than any active pediatrician. They immediately assume podcast guy is more trustworthy without even hearing the pediatrician’s name. He’s been trusting his kids to him for years presumably, but who cares about all that when a guy on a celebrity podcast is telling them what they want to hear. For all the claims of everyone else being sheep, this group is the biggest culprit.

Why even go to a pediatrician if you’re going to ignore him in favor of whatever the last guest on Rogan said?

No.
No one said he was bought and paid for, anywhere in here. You jumped to the conclusion that you wanted to see just like you are accusing us of doing.
I’m not arguing that we didn’t do it, it’s human nature, it can’t hardly be helped, but we didn’t jump to the conclusion that we wanted to see nearly to the degree that you want to accuse us of doing, because that makes your argument easier, makes it easier to put what you don’t want to believe in a box, to put us all in a box, nice and neat.

I would like to think I’m similar to you, open to new information, searching, seeking. I think I’ve heard that from you before on here. Well, I found some new info and just because it took me from a more ‘centrist’ or at least ‘not dug in’ position towards one of ‘yes, it’s a scam’ doesn’t make me guilty of participating in an echo chamber.

The only thing assumed was that the pediatrician is just a regular dude, not some superstar with exceptional knowledge knowledge and experience. Everyone’s experience, direct professional or otherwise, is tainted by who they are surrounded by and the info they choose to absorb. So there’s a reason to disbelieve someone you might otherwise trust. And new study? Wow, those are great, yea.

Of course he could have ulterior motives. I’m sure every single person here that you are accusing of being sheep deeply considered this while listening to him.

Anyway, the podcast is only three hours long. Quicker to listen to it than to argue about it.