Democrats want to Legalize Marijuana

[DoggyDaddy]

Then we need to leave alcohol out of the equation. The absurdity was including items not in the question.

Alcohol has been left out of the question by design. Congress critters and ATF bureaucrats like to get their drink on too. I've heard several times that if alcohol were invented today, it would be classified as a Schedule 1 drug, and I believe it. But it's the "socially acceptable" drug, so it gets a pass.

 

[phylodog]

You are correct, but times are changing. Who would have thought we'd have a senile old man for president, a VP who "worked" her way up, anti-americans in congress, a trangender as Health secretary and so much more.

Federal prosecutors will do what they are told. The ATF will do what they're told.
Make examples of those who lied on the form and the process begins; all because of a joint.

I agree, times are changing. I'm looking forward to the legalization of cannabis at the Federal level so the discussion can be over.

time: What if the vaccine is a means to hand over billions to big pharma before POTUS announces cannabis being removed from the controlled substances schedule? The legalization of cannabis will cost big pharma billions in the first couple of years and probably trillions within a decade (just a few months under the Biden administration devaluing the dollar at an alarming rate).

 

[Ziggidy]

Alcohol has been left out of the question by design. Congress critters and ATF bureaucrats like to get their drink on too. I've heard several times that if alcohol were invented today, it would be classified as a Schedule 1 drug, and I believe it. But it's the "socially acceptable" drug, so it gets a pass.

Most likely true. For whatever reason it is not in there. I am just discussing mj and the actual contents of the question without adding or taking away. Some individuals think since alcohol is legal, then mj should; that is not what I am discussing. All I brought up was the relationship between smoking pot and the question on the 4473; nothing more, nothing less. It's not a trap, it's not intended for any "gotcha moment" of any other devious intentions. This is a gun forum and I thought I'd ask fellow gum owners what their take would be if/when pot is legalized and how that impacts how someone may answer that question. I am pretty confident I am not the only person who has thought about that. What I found is the manipulation of my question to lead it into other tangents with implications that are far from truthful.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

My only concern with the socialists wanting to legalize pot is how they will use it as a trap. The ATF has info on gun purchases now. I cannot imagine what they would give to be able to use that to trap gun owners. All of a sudden a "contact high" can be criminally charged against someone.

What?

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Imagine the 150k or so registered mj employees in colorado alone.

They admit to a laundry list of federal crimes ever time they file their income taxes.

If the feds wanted to start a roundup of mj law violating gun owners, they could start rounding up registered industry employees in western Colorado and run out of feds y before they got to Vail.

The feds have no teeth without local and state support.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

In Hawaii, they passed medical mj. Then they compared that database to the database of ccw lic holders.

Then sent them a nasty gram "turn in your guns or we will come stomp your ass"

So it's happened before it can happen again.

 

[peterock]

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In Hawaii, they passed medical mj. Then they compared that database to the database of ccw lic holders.

Then sent them a nasty gram "turn in your guns or we will come stomp your ass"

So it's happened before it can happen again.

I’ve heard the same about applying for an emotional “service dog”. Not sure if there’s any truth to that as it came from my barber.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

In Hawaii, they passed medical mj. Then they compared that database to the database of ccw lic holders.

Then sent them a nasty gram "turn in your guns or we will come stomp your ass"

So it's happened before it can happen again.

Medical MJ is a joke. A half-measure that's the worst of both worlds in most ways. Luckily we aren't talking about medical mj and we aren't HI.

 

[Ziggidy]

In Hawaii, they passed medical mj. Then they compared that database to the database of ccw lic holders.

Then sent them a nasty gram "turn in your guns or we will come stomp your ass"

So it's happened before it can happen again.

I did not know that nor did I think of our license to carry. I cannot imagine the various databases I may be in.

 

[Ziggidy]

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[COOPADUP]

Book'em Dano.

 

[jsharmon7]

Finally got caught up in this thread. I’ll never drink a pina colada again.

 

[jsharmon7]

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That was 4 years ago. Any updates as to whether there were any mass gun confiscations? Anybody actually impacted?

 

[Ziggidy]

That was 4 years ago. Any updates as to whether there were any mass gun confiscations? Anybody actually impacted?

I know it was 4 years ago. The point is they will keep trying. The current administration has made it one of their goals; and they are getting support.

Y’all need to stop thinking it will never happen.


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[BehindBlueI's]

I know it was 4 years ago. The point is they will keep trying. The current administration has made it one of their goals; and they are getting support.

Y’all need to stop thinking it will never happen.


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So what's that got to do with legalization? Not the medical marijuana game, actual legalization. Buy weed like you buy cigarettes and liquor.

What's that got to do with "contact high"?

 

[tbhausen]

It’s all good, boys. Smoke that weed (and whatever else you want to do). No problem with the 4473… just ask Hunter Biden.

 

[jsharmon7]

I think the most important thing about the legalization of weed has been the route it took. It began as “what if we only allow it for actual medical conditions.” Then the medical conditions began encompassing just about everything from cancer to the common cold. Once people accepted that, then it was less of a jump to decriminalizing small amounts, which became less of a jump to any recreational use. Now in the PNW, people can shoot heroin on the streets. Forget your personal opinion of any of that and just study the strategy that got from Point A to Point Z. I wonder if that game plan could be used again.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I think the most important thing about the legalization of weed has been the route it took. It began as “what if we only allow it for actual medical conditions.” Then the medical conditions began encompassing just about everything from cancer to the common cold. Once people accepted that, then it was less of a jump to decriminalizing small amounts, which became less of a jump to any recreational use. Now in the PNW, people can shoot heroin on the streets. Forget your personal opinion of any of that and just study the strategy that got from Point A to Point Z. I wonder if that game plan could be used again.

Medical marijuana was always a trojan horse, which is one reason I despise it so much. It's a wink-wink-nudge-nudge way to get around the law as long as you can afford to play the game and creates as many issues as it solves. Black market marijuana grows continue, turf wars continue, etc.

Completely legalize it. That's one reason I laughed so much about the website about "prevent another big tobacco". Another big tobacco is exactly what we want. They don't shoot each other. Quality control is present. Sure, there's *some* smuggling to avoid taxes but nothing like weed.

The only difference between PNW and Indiana is in Indiana you have to hide a little in most places. Even with a flood of state police, we can't keep a town of 3k drug free by enforcement actions. There's too much money in dealing and too little punishment for using. If you'll risk getting AIDS you'll risk a few months in jail, if that...

 

[jsharmon7]

Medical marijuana was always a trojan horse, which is one reason I despise it so much. It's a wink-wink-nudge-nudge way to get around the law as long as you can afford to play the game and creates as many issues as it solves. Black market marijuana grows continue, turf wars continue, etc.

Completely legalize it. That's one reason I laughed so much about the website about "prevent another big tobacco". Another big tobacco is exactly what we want. They don't shoot each other. Quality control is present. Sure, there's *some* smuggling to avoid taxes but nothing like weed.

The only difference between PNW and Indiana is in Indiana you have to hide a little in most places. Even with a flood of state police, we can't keep a town of 3k drug free by enforcement actions. There's too much money in dealing and too little punishment for using. If you'll risk getting AIDS you'll risk a few months in jail, if that...

I agree, but I also think they’ve realized how well that approach worked. Start with something nobody can really argue against, like racism, and eventually morph it into whatever social goals you want.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I agree, but I also think they’ve realized how well that approach worked. Start with something nobody can really argue against, like racism, and eventually morph it into whatever social goals you want.

I'm sure we can both find examples and counter-examples. I don't think PNW has legalized heroin, though, any more than we have. I don't think it's a chicken/egg situation. I think it's pretty clear that the driving factor is the fecklessness of current enforcement ideas and wider and wider acceptance for thinks like recreational marijuana and needle exchanges.