Vaccine coercion/bribery

[SheepDog4Life]

If you survived it once you have natural immunity. A family I know had covid run through their whole family. Kids got over it in a day or two. Parents were down for several days with mostly a headache and some other symptoms. And then when they were able to get the vaccine they signed up. Why? I really don't understand that.

I agree with you, Jamil... if someone had symptomatic COVID, it would seem like the vaccine would be superfluous.

One person I know who had COVID and got the vaccine told me the reason he got it was to guard against the possibility of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement)... he said that since the vaccines have only partial spike protein, the theoretical possibility of ADE would be less from the vaccine than the actual infection (they were designed that way on purpose according to him).

No one knows if COVID goes ADE or not, he said the whole cytokine storm version of COVID was reminiscent of a denge/HF ADE scenario to him, so he got it.

It's a thought process that makes some sense... whether right or wrong? No idea.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Except that no one on here has said anything like that.

Ermmm... I've only been on this thread for a "minute" and, not pointing at you, but no one? I disagree... just in the past 10 pages or so, I've seen that COVID has been downgraded from "just the flu" to "just a cold" and the vaccines branded as "gene mutation therapy" ( ).

What I and others have said is that if you're under 65 and don't have any comorbidities, you don't have a high risk of issues with COVID. That's a fact. While there have been some healthy people who have had issues, the numbers for that are vanishingly small.

I agree with this... if you're young and healthy, you don't need to vaccine to avoid serious illness/hospitalization/death... you're more likely to get hit by the proverbial bus.

ETA: And just to reiterate my position, getting the vaccine or not is an individuals choice. If stormtroopers come through town to force vaccinations, save me a spot on the barricades to oppose them.

 

[Ingomike]

How about this... people that don't "believe" COVID is anything more than the common cold... that don't "believe" in the vaccine(s)... when they show up at the hospital with COVID, we just tell them we don't "believe" that they are sick, just go home?

This post is unbelievable..I was going to turn it around backwards but didn't want the ban hammer.

This is just a cheap shot post. Some sheepdog, can't tell the difference between the nibbling rabbits and the wolves infiltrating the flock...

 

[jsharmon7]

Or maybe just lost weight so that he wasn't obese...

Article doesn't say what other comorbidities he had, aside from having weight that put him at risk.

This is a huge point that’s being overlooked. The majority of the stories I see in the local news about people having significant problems all seem to be heavy people. Instead of shaming people over just masks and vaccines, we need to be telling people to exercise and lose weight. I think the reason we haven’t seen that is political correctness. Nobody wants to be accused of fat shaming or something. But...lose weight and get in shape to reduce the danger.

 

[rooster]

and, not pointing at you, but no one? I disagree... just in the past 10 pages or so, I've seen that COVID has been downgraded from "just the flu" to "just a cold" and the vaccines branded as "gene mutation therapy

MRNA therapy’s are described and discussed by researchers I’ve listened to as gene therapies. Just last week I just listened to a podcast with PhD David Sinclair talking about using MRNA gene therapies that they would turn on and off with the administration of a specific molecule (antibiotics in this case) to cure macular degeneration.

So yea, they are gene therapies. In this case they are attempting to use a gene therapy to inoculate people against a disease in place of a traditional vaccine.

let’s be intellectually honest with each other here.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

MRNA therapy’s are described and discussed by researchers I’ve listened to as gene therapies. Just last week I just listened to a podcast with PhD David Sinclair talking about using MRNA gene therapies that they would turn on and off with the administration of a specific molecule (antibiotics in this case) to cure macular degeneration.

So yea, they are gene therapies. In this case they are attempting to use a gene therapy to inoculate people against a disease in place of a traditional vaccine.

let’s be intellectually honest with each other here.

"modification" ?

 

[bobzilla]

Hamilton southeastern schools have released their rules for Covid to the teaching staff. If you do not have a shot and contract c19’or symptoms you are to self quarantine for 14 days and are required to use your personal and sick days. If you have the shot you are only required to quarantine for 10 days IF you are showing symptoms.
So they are punishing those that didn’t get the shot by threatening their personal days

 

[SheepDog4Life]

This post is unbelievable..I was going to turn it around backwards but didn't want the ban hammer.

This is just a cheap shot post. Some sheepdog, can't tell the difference between the nibbling rabbits and the wolves infiltrating the flock...

PM it to me then and we'll take it off public... mods got better things to do.

 

[Ingomike]

Hamilton southeastern schools have released their rules for Covid to the teaching staff. If you do not have a shot and contract c19’or symptoms you are to self quarantine for 14 days and are required to use your personal and sick days. If you have the shot you are only required to quarantine for 10 days IF you are showing symptoms.
So they are punishing those that didn’t get the shot by threatening their personal days

Will the union go along with that?

 

[Ingomike]

PM it to me then and we'll take it off public... mods got better things to do.

No, if I say it it will not be hidden from others. Maybe I read it wrong on intent, but it is a gross mischaracterization of the points from those that so not believe the confirmed liars in media, government, and big pharma, concerning the outcome of a virus they never had a clue of and still do not and the pushing of a vaccine, the foundation of which has never been widely used and has so many unknowns.

Why do you believe them?

 

[bobzilla]

Will the union go along with that?

Yep. They’re lock step with the whole program and prett damn worthless

 

[maxipum]

PM it to me then and we'll take it off public... mods got better things to do.

Oh no no do it here I want to hear you defend that stupid crap. Now say if you make any personal choices that involve risk at all no healthcare for you !!! To hell with it by that line of thought we are all on our own. Sheepdogs yeah right. Only until people stop listening.

 

[oze]

I agree with you, Jamil... if someone had symptomatic COVID, it would seem like the vaccine would be superfluous.

One person I know who had COVID and got the vaccine told me the reason he got it was to guard against the possibility of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement)... he said that since the vaccines have only partial spike protein, the theoretical possibility of ADE would be less from the vaccine than the actual infection (they were designed that way on purpose according to him).

No one knows if COVID goes ADE or not, he said the whole cytokine storm version of COVID was reminiscent of a denge/HF ADE scenario to him, so he got it.

It's a thought process that makes some sense... whether right or wrong? No idea.

Just a slight nit to pick here. The 3 major inoculations available in the USA do not contain the spike protein itself, but rather messenger RNA (mRNA) molecules which enter our cells and instruct them to make part of the spike protein that is on the surface of the coronavirus. If this differs in any way from what your friend stated in terms of making ADE less likely, I can't say.

I just finished this book:

The Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and th…

When Jennifer Doudna was in sixth grade, she came home …

www.goodreads.com

It is a fascinating albeit high-level introduction to one of the pioneers of gene editing using a billion year old "technology" stolen from bacteria called CRISPR. It is *not* a book about covid, which is relegated to the last chapter or so, almost like an epilogue. I agree that we should call these shots what they are, which is gene therapy, not vaccinations as the average lay person thinks of them. I can see why there would be a reluctance to use the more correct term, because it sounds a lot more scary than say, the polio vaccine, to which we are all used by now. The techie nerd in me agrees that this type of disease prevention could be a game changer. Someday. I just wish that more focus on treatment had been performed while actual in-depth clinical trials of the mRNA treatment protocols were being done.

 

[wtburnette]

Ermmm... I've only been on this thread for a "minute" and, not pointing at you, but no one? I disagree... just in the past 10 pages or so, I've seen that COVID has been downgraded from "just the flu" to "just a cold" and the vaccines branded as "gene mutation therapy" ( ).

If you are using reading comprehension skills at all, you will see that the Delta variant is what people have been referring to when they say it is more like the flu or common cold. If you read the truth about the Delta variant, which is way more contagious but had much more mild symptoms, this makes sense. The gene therapy stuff has already been covered so I won't rehash it.

 

[Ingomike]

Just a slight nit to pick here. The 3 major inoculations available in the USA do not contain the spike protein itself, but rather messenger RNA (mRNA) molecules which enter our cells and instruct them to make part of the spike protein that is on the surface of the coronavirus. If this differs in any way from what your friend stated in terms of making ADE less likely, I can't say.

I just finished this book:

The Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and th…

When Jennifer Doudna was in sixth grade, she came home …

www.goodreads.com

It is a fascinating albeit high-level introduction to one of the pioneers of gene editing using a billion year old "technology" stolen from bacteria called CRISPR. It is *not* a book about covid, which is relegated to the last chapter or so, almost like an epilogue. I agree that we should call these shots what they are, which is gene therapy, not vaccinations as the average lay person thinks of them. I can see why there would be a reluctance to use the more correct term, because it sounds a lot more scary than say, the polio vaccine, to which we are all used by now. The techie nerd in me agrees that this type of disease prevention could be a game changer. Someday. I just wish that more focus on treatment had been performed while actual in-depth clinical trials of the mRNA treatment protocols were being done.

The mRNA has been analogized as an operating system that give instructions to create an outcome. A real vaccine creates a reaction in the body, a big difference. The only reason to call it a vaccine is to hijack a term the public is already comfortable with. When they were fast tracking vaccines, I thought they were really making a vaccine, not an operating system.

Follow the money!!! For big pharma, they believe these mRNA treatments are the future for many things, they got to adapt the technology to wuwho flu, the government to pay them for it, and run wide scale trials with legal immunity. What a trifecta!!!

 

[jsx1043]

How an Athlete Developed Health Issues Despite Being Fit

Kyle Warner, a professional mountain bike racer, went to the doctor to get help but was ignored and not given any medical attention. Here's why.

articles.mercola.com

Also:
Anyone who calls for taxpayer services to be withheld from any citizen based upon their sovereignty and differences is no different than putting a yellow armband on a Jew themselves. That concept is sick and revolting, and is absolutely beyond the pale of what America stands for. And to hear it make it’s way on this board let’s me know that the other side is winning.

 

[actaeon277]

How about this... people that don't "believe" COVID is anything more than the common cold... that don't "believe" in the vaccine(s)... when they show up at the hospital with COVID, we just tell them we don't "believe" that they are sick, just go home?

Maybe we should do the same for people that are overweight?

 

[JCSR]

 

[phylodog]

How can the “numbers” mean anything when it comes to calculating how deadly this virus is/was/might be?

 

[wtburnette]

How can the “numbers” mean anything when it comes to calculating how deadly this virus is/was/might be?

Yep, that's been my issue for a while now. Even with the low numbers that have already been reported, you have to take it with a grain of salt because we know for a fact the numbers have been inflated. The question is, by how much? Will we ever know?