Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

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  • Timjoebillybob

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    So, it's petty theft so it is less reprehensible/corrupt?
    Never said that, it might not be theft/corruption at all. But there is a good likely hood it is. It could have been paid for with her salary, or who knows it could have been paid with funds from the organization like a certain someones suits shall we say?

    Then maybe she (the BLM leader) should move somewhere else. So that those funds would be used for better purposes.
    That post was mainly tongue in cheek. But seriously, her taking that money for a house is probably better for the country and the neighborhoods it would have been used in to set up "protests" in. Heck that 1.4 million she spent on the house may have saved at least 10x that in looting, destroyed property, arson, etc. Doesn't make her any less of a most likely corrupt ****waffle.
     

    Alamo

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    BLM founder buys 1.4 million dollar home.
    I'm sure the various donors will be happy their money was well spent.


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    Patrisse Khan-Cullors Buys Topanga Canyon Home – DIRT


    I used to live in Topanga Canyon, when I was stationed at Los Angeles AFB.

    Topanga Canyon runs from the beach on the Pacific Ocean up the side of the Santa Monica Mountains. Topanga Canyon Boulevard is carved out of the side of the canyon and runs to the top of the mountain ridge, then down the other side into Woodland Hills and The Valley. Old Topanga Canyon Boulevard splits off to the west about halfway up, the new part continues to Woodland Hills. It is (or was, I haven't been there in years) a very pretty drive. The Santa Monica Mountains are where the opening scenes to MASH were filmed.

    Through a fortuitous circumstances, I rented a cabin very cheaply (for the area) on about half an acre? back in the early 1990s. The main part of the cabin had been built in the 1930s, with a few additions along the way (electricity, running water, and indoor plumbing among them). It was set well back off of Topanga Canyon Boulevard, not really visible from the road unless you knew exactly where to look as you drove by. I was there for the Northridge Earthquake, epicenter about 9 miles away. It was a nice cabin, but by no means extravagant or fancy, fairly plain overall, but when I left the owner was asking $500K for it, and I believe she got at least that much.

    Topanga was kind of a weird little place, and I definitely was the far end right end of the political spectrum there, at least as far as I could tell. When Malibu and Pacific Palisades and all the other big $$$ communities were exploding and hyperinflating land prices in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, Topanga Canyon was kind of a backwater -- hippies and pot growers and people of lesser means were able to grab small plots of land on the sides of a very steep canyons and build shacks, essentially. The Manson Family's treasurer lived in the Canyon, and he was murdered by the Family a few days before Sharon Tate because Charlie and his acolytes thought he was embezzling from the Family.

    It was explained to me that when Malibu and Pacific Palisades and places like that filled up, rich people started looking for other places to "get away" from Los Angeles. All those old hippies and potheads suddenly found their little plots and shacks worth more than they ever dreamed. Rich people bought them, knocked down the shacks and paid big bucks to builders to hang their houses on the sides of very steep canyon walls. I believe most if not all were in some measure in violation of some code or statute, because there are a lot of overlapping jurisdictions there, all who want things built and done their way, so it takes forever (and I suspect numerous bribes) to get all the building permits. So instead (I was told) people would slip the contractors the dollars they would have paid for the permits that would take years, and the contractor would as quietly as possible build the house without permits and all that stuff. Of course the homeowners forever lived in jeopardy that one day some inspector or another would come along and find them, but people had connections and money. Or, again, so I was told.

    So whatsername got herself a small middle class house (at best) in a million dollar neighborhood. It has long been a mantra of left wing "philanthropists" and "activists" to "do well while doing good" (as their definition of "good" always includes them "doing well"), so looks like she's figured that out for herself. Thus indicating BLM is less of a revolutionary organization than just another lefty scam on black people, white people, and any other rubes they can get to fund their nonsense.
     

    jsharmon7

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    The expert says police interaction caused Floyd’s death. Some of the force was clearly justified, though. So did the expert draw the line of when this police interaction killed him? Not taking a side, just curious as to how that statement is being held up as definite proof of murder. Would he still have eventually lost consciousness if they had him upright instead of facedown with weight on him?
     

    jamil

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    Not so fast, Jamil. People don’t just take fentanyl, or any lethal dose of a drug, and fall over and die. Autopsies don’t list “bullets” as the cause of death. They are specific as to exactly what happens to the body that causes death. Obviously those reasons differ from case to case. If it’s indicated the the bodily functions the fentanyl affected was severe enough to cause death, you have an argument. If you don’t, then that’s problematic.
    So it’s not a reasonable doubt? Dude, this case has reasonable doubt all over it in terms of cause of death.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    So it’s not a reasonable doubt? Dude, this case has reasonable doubt all over it in terms of cause of death.
    Not from what I’ve seen. The prosecution only need make it clear that Chauvin’s actions contributed to Floyd’s death, not that he was solely responsible,
     

    Tombs

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    Not from what I’ve seen. The prosecution only need make it clear that Chauvin’s actions contributed to Floyd’s death, not that he was solely responsible,

    So if a police officer pulling you over caused you to have a heart attack in fear and die, the officer would be on the hook for murder and/or manslaughter? :dunno:

    I don't think that's all the prosecution has to prove.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    So if a police officer pulling you over caused you to have a heart attack in fear and die, the officer would be on the hook for murder and/or manslaughter? :dunno:
    No, because the officer wasn’t violating use of force policy during the interaction. When bad actions lead to someone getting hurt or killed, then there’s a problem.
    If I go into a store and buy a drink, and one of patrons dies out of fear, that’s not my problem. If I rob the store and that person dies, due to a fear induced stress in their heart, then I’m on the hook for that.
     

    Tombs

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    No, because the officer wasn’t violating use of force policy during the interaction. When bad actions lead to someone getting hurt or killed, then there’s a problem.
    If I go into a store and buy a drink, and one of patrons dies out of fear, that’s not my problem. If I rob the store and that person dies, due to a fear induced stress in their heart, then I’m on the hook for that.

    So the prosecution needs to prove Chauvin both contributed to Floyd's death AND was violating use of force policy in the process.
     

    Route 45

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    If I was stuck in Minneapolis, I would be spending less time watching the dog and pony show and more time setting trip wires, securing a perimeter, and preparing defense against the inevitable excuse to burn, loot, and murder.
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    foszoe

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    If I was stuck in Minneapolis, I would be spending less time watching the dog and pony show and more time setting trip wires, securing a perimeter, and preparing defense against the inevitable excuse to burn, loot, and murder.
    I figured you would already have done that wherever you live. Kinda disappointed in BigRed.

    Foszoe doesn’t want to like BigRed as much as he did before.

    Insert BigRed sadface here.
     
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