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  • BiscuitsandGravy

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    About $600 for the equipment and $99/month. It's not really the best option for people who have "terrestrial" broadband option in the same speed range, but I don't. No cable, no fiber- only 1 DSL provider and you can see above how well that worked.

    That is our situation. The very last on the physical copper DSL by 200'. No other options except for 4G-LTE. Curious how it handles voip and video meetings/Zoom/Gotomeeting/etc. When we did the covid work-from-home move, everyone took their voip office phone home.
     

    HoughMade

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    My wife has been video chatting with my daughter for well over an hour. She froze up a couple of times for 10 or so seconds. Don’t know whose side that was on, but it is storming here.
     

    Alamo

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    Well, that’s a difference.
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    Couple of install pics to follow.
    I just ran speedtest on my AT&T service, on the desktop (cat 6 to AT&T router), iPhone, and IPad (both on wifi). Hands-down winner was the iPhone with 47.0 down, 1.63 up. And AT&T has its own drop out problems every few hours, which last considerably longer than 10 seconds.

    Star link is looking better and better
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    I wonder if you can get and how much it would cost to get a second dish? If you have a permanent install but have an extra dish you could just unplug the box and travel with it and the second dish.
    I've been considering where I'll put the dish when it arrives. I know I can use the app to get specifics on the best location for it but it's raining and I'm certain that placing it on top of one of the telephone poles in my back yard would be idea. That would require running the cable alongside a 220v line going from the house to the barn. I have a feeling that won't work well, can anyone confirm? If not, is there a way to make it work? Maybe with the addition of a layer of shielding or something?
    My comcast cable used to run alongside the 220v line coming to the house, they actually had it taped to it. Now it's still attached to the weatherhead for the electric. Didn't seem to have had any problems from it.
     

    HoughMade

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    I wonder if you can get and how much it would cost to get a second dish? If you have a permanent install but have an extra dish you could just unplug the box and travel with it and the second dish.
    Right now, they are tied to a specific address. If you move the dish away from that address, they work poorly or not at all. Starlink has recently filed FCC paperwork for approval of moving receivers, but that is in process. I can see this being a good solution for RVers once the system allows for that.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Right now, they are tied to a specific address. If you move the dish away from that address, they work poorly or not at all. Starlink has recently filed FCC paperwork for approval of moving receivers, but that is in process. I can see this being a good solution for RVers once the system allows for that.
    That sucks, RVers and such were what I was thinking of. Or things like week or two long prairie dog hunts where you're out of cell phone range, canoeing the boundary waters, etc. A 12v deep cell battery, inverter, and a couple of small solar panels would work well with this setup and a laptop for keeping in communication with others.
     

    HoughMade

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    Well, it's still in beta. When it makes the jump to "live" I would be very surprised if portability wasn't part of the package.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    I've been considering where I'll put the dish when it arrives. I know I can use the app to get specifics on the best location for it but it's raining and I'm certain that placing it on top of one of the telephone poles in my back yard would be idea. That would require running the cable alongside a 220v line going from the house to the barn. I have a feeling that won't work well, can anyone confirm? If not, is there a way to make it work? Maybe with the addition of a layer of shielding or something?
    I'm not sure about what kind of cable comes off of the dish itself, but with most cat, stereo and coax wires you want to avoid running parallel with electric wires. It can cause interference. If you can space them 12"+ apart it helps. If you have to do this use a cable with as much shielding as possible, also grounded conduit will help
     

    Jaybird1980

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    Right now, they are tied to a specific address. If you move the dish away from that address, they work poorly or not at all. Starlink has recently filed FCC paperwork for approval of moving receivers, but that is in process. I can see this being a good solution for RVers once the system allows for that.
    Are you under any sort of contract? If someone bought this to try and it didn't work out for their location would you be able to sell it to someone else?

    Also, what kind of cable gets ran to the dish?
     

    HoughMade

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    The cable from the dish is essentially shielded 6A with a weather-resistant sheath. The issue is that the dish is powered by POE up to around 100 watts (motors for adjustment, a heater for snow and the...modem? (don't know if that's the right term technically, but you can plug the cable from the router directly into a computer without going through the router). They only want people to use their cable, which is 100 feet long, because they do not want the hassle of approving the specs of outside vendors' cables, at least in beta.

    Maybe the shielding helps? I'm no expert.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    The cable from the dish is essentially shielded 6A with a weather-resistant sheath. The issue is that the dish is powered by POE up to around 100 watts (motors for adjustment, a heater for snow and the...modem? (don't know if that's the right term technically, but you can plug the cable from the router directly into a computer without going through the router). They only want people to use their cable, which is 100 feet long, because they do not want the hassle of approving the specs of outside vendors' cables, at least in beta.

    Maybe the shielding helps? I'm no expert.
    That's less than 1a assuming it's 120v so the shielding helps it from outside interferences found normally in the atmosphere, but running parallel to electric lines forvery far is less than ideal, could lead to noise interference.

    Whe always tried to keep a 12"+ distance if running parallel and keep any crossings to perpendicular. Of course it's not always possible

    I also assume it's being stepped to lower voltage for the uses.
     

    maxwelhse

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    That's less than 1a assuming it's 120v so the shielding helps it from outside interferences found normally in the atmosphere, but running parallel to electric lines forvery far is less than ideal, could lead to noise interference.

    Whe always tried to keep a 12"+ distance if running parallel and keep any crossings to perpendicular. Of course it's not always possible

    I also assume it's being stepped to lower voltage for the uses.

    POE is power-over-ethernet, so the power for the device is integrated directly into the Ethernet cable. So, it's running parallel, but it's still twisted pair for data so interference concerns are minimal. POE is also DC, which I'm sure helps.
     

    HoughMade

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    POE is power-over-ethernet, so the power for the device is integrated directly into the Ethernet cable. So, it's running parallel, but it's still twisted pair for data so interference concerns are minimal. POE is also DC, which I'm sure helps.
    He was referring to Phylo's situation where the best place he would have to mount the dish would have the cable running along a 220v line.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    POE is power-over-ethernet, so the power for the device is integrated directly into the Ethernet cable. So, it's running parallel, but it's still twisted pair for data so interference concerns are minimal. POE is also DC, which I'm sure helps.
    Correct, the twisted pairs help combat interference, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility. The shielding depends on if it's 6a U or 6a F cable. That I don't know, but it sounds like Hough said it had foil shielding so I would guess it F
     

    HoughMade

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    Correct, the twisted pairs help combat interference, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility. The shielding depends on if it's 6a U or 6a F cable. That I don't know, but it sounds like Hough said it had foil shielding so I would guess it F
    When I say I'm no expert...I'm no expert, but my son is coming for a visit and he is an IT guy "Field Serve Enginerd" I mean "Engineer", so I'm sure he'll tell me. It has the sheetmetal shield around the plug itself if that means anything.
     
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