beachhead40
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Oklahoma Girl Shoots Home Intruder: 12-Year-Old Uses Family's Gun To Protect Self, Home hmmmm not all are created equal
people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
Welcome to INGO...Stick around,YOU NEED US IN THE WORST WAY! (You sure need an education..]people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
Do you have fire extinguishers and smoke alarms in your home?
Did you know that you're 4 times more likely to be a victim of a violent crime than of a housefire. That's not even accounting for crimes which start as non-violent (home invasion.)
What if your fire extinguisher was found to be empty at the moment you needed it?
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Oklahoma Girl Shoots Home Intruder: 12-Year-Old Uses Family's Gun To Protect Self, Home hmmmm not all are created equal
Bottom of the pool, tell him to go get it slowly.Have you seen my baseball?
That's how I do it^^^^^^^^
So robbers look for unoccupied houses?? Oh, because dirtbags own thermal imaging equipment and check each house as they slowly drive down
each street of a neighborhood right?
thats where they learned it.That's how I do it
That would be justice for society not for the deceased.Hey, my bad, you're right. If someone is murdered...well they're already dead...so why have a trial? (no I'm not intimating that this kid was murdered)
The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
I don't know why this is a hard concept to grasp.Its not the odds, its the stakes.
The fact that a 3 year old gained access to a loaded firearm should REQUIRE charges be filed against whomever was the child's guardian at the time. I understand it's a great tragedy, but it could not have been possible if not for negligence.
Father carried "one in the chamber"?
Some of us have chosen to firearm-proof our children rather than kid-proof our firearms so that when/if they [the children] ever do come across a firearm lying unattended on a table! they won't bother it. I don't leave my firearm readily available as a matter of habit, but I also know my boys will not touch one.Anyone who trusts a 3 year old enough to lay a loaded weapon on a table and walk away from it is a negligent fool.
Not much in this life isn't preventable. It's simple enough to identify the action which led to an event and say, "If I hadn't done X, Y wouldn't have happened." When it comes to children's behavior, ever single one of their actions are preventable, and yet those involving firearms are the only ones that seem to garner the most righteous indignation.This is tragic. But if it happened as reported...it was entirely preventable.
Mine were, if by safe you mean passed all the tests put before them to reinforce the firearms rules in our house. Not one single failure. And at this point, neither of them have any reason to handle a firearm out of curiosity because there is none. They see the firearms everyday, they get the lecture regularly, and they have had the range time to quench that curiosity. Firearms in our house are as common as a pen or book or fork.There is no such thing as a trustworthy 3 year old when it comes to firearms. They cannot be sufficiently taught by that age to be safe.
While I understand your comment, I believe the argument to be unreasonable.
No, if a child sticks a fork in a socket and is electrocuted the parent (or guardian) should not necessarily be charged, but maybe.
If the parent or guardian watched this event happen and did nothing to intervene, then yes, by all means charge them, to the fullest extent of the law.
If a child drowns in a pool, or even in a bath tub, the parent or guardian should not necessarily be charged.
These circumstances don't stack up to the level of criminal negligence that leaving a loaded firearm unattended does.
It may or may not be a child that finds the firearm.
It could have been ANYONE else, and that could have led to a "shooting spree".
My point is that firearm ownership SHOULD carry with it a certain level of personal responsibility. You simply can NOT "forget" when the subject is kids and firearms.
It really shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.
If you own a firearm, YOU are responsible for securing it at ALL times, PERIOD!
Gee, where were you when people broke in and robbed my house while I was home? Should I just have yelled OCCUPIED?people always talk about children dying from accidents. There is a huge difference between dying from things kid should be doing (riding bikes, playing on swing sets)and things kids should not be exposed to(guns left unattended around the house). Few people have a reason to have loaded firearms. The odds of someone breaking into an occupied house are very small. Robbers look for unoccupied houses. If you have kids in the house and there is no reason to suspect that anyone is targeting you, there is no reason to keep a loaded gun
I don't know the ages of your children, but with your children at age 3 did you knowingly leave loaded firearms around unattended where they could access them?Some of us have chosen to firearm-proof our children rather than kid-proof our firearms so that when/if they [the children] ever do come across a firearm lying unattended on a table! they won't bother it. I don't leave my firearm readily available as a matter of habit, but I also know my boys will not touch one.
Not much in this life isn't preventable. It's simple enough to identify the action which led to an event and say, "If I hadn't done X, Y wouldn't have happened." When it comes to children's behavior, ever single one of their actions are preventable, and yet those involving firearms are the only ones that seem to garner the most righteous indignation.
Mine were, if by safe you mean passed all the tests put before them to reinforce the firearms rules in our house. Not one single failure. And at this point, neither of them have any reason to handle a firearm out of curiosity because there is none. They see the firearms everyday, they get the lecture regularly, and they have had the range time to quench that curiosity. Firearms in our house are as common as a pen or book or fork.
If you want to keep your child safe around firearms, TRAIN them. For all the preaching about safety around here about training, I am always baffled that more of you don't take a more active role in firearm-proofing your kids. I think it's negligent not to train children in proper behavior. Keeping them "out of reach" isn't enough.
Gee, where were you when people broke in and robbed my house while I was home? Should I just have yelled OCCUPIED?