"What about the children?" and a confession.

[strahd71]

I imagine some do. At least hand the kid the card and tell them to get something to eat.

Some might but you hear so much about people selling the cards for cash every month.

Jake

 

[Shelly1582]

Some might but you hear so much about people selling the cards for cash every month.

Jake

But honestly we can't lump some with all. I wish there was a clear cut and easy way to help out only those who truly need and appreciate it, but for now we are just stuck hoping things get better. I sure don't have all the answers. I was just guessing what the teacher could have meant.

 

[Floater]

This is being approached from the wrong angle. Ignore political beliefs and leanings entirely. Approach this from a scholastic angle. Doing so removes all personal feelings and beliefs from the equation.

The issue is that the question asked for your opinion. You stated and supported your opinion. You were given a grade of 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Calmly, politely, and rationally approach your teacher from this tack. Ignore the substance of the opinion entirely.

If you are still met with resistance, you're only recourse is to go over your teacher's head. Calmly, politely, and rationally explain to the principal the scholastic error of giving you a 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Also explain that you've attempted to resolve the issue with the teacher to no avail.

I've been in this situation before when I was in high school. Actually, I've been in this situation several times, with the same teacher, in high school. This worked for me every time. I'm sure the principal wasn't wild about me bringing these issues to him. However, when it was explained that the teacher would not even consider discussing the issue, and after consulting with the teacher on his own, the principal sided with me every time. You need to decide if it's worth it. For me it was, win or lose. If nothing else, I was bringing the teachers poor performance to his attention. However, I did make myself a target. Everything I did in her class came under extra scrutiny; assignments, tests, presentations, everything.

Be prepared to explain your position and support it with evidence. Do not whine, complain, bemoan, or belittle the teacher. Have a rational adult conversation. Also, be prepared to lose and accept it.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

When civility fails and the supposedly civil fail reason, then the only option remaining is open hostility.

 

[Bunnykid68]

But honestly we can't lump some with all. I wish there was a clear cut and easy way to help out only those who truly need and appreciate it, but for now we are just stuck hoping things get better. I sure don't have all the answers. I was just guessing what the teacher could have meant.

There is, they can go get blocks of cheese, jars of peanut butter and whatever else like they used to do instead of just throwing money at them and letting them spend it on what they want, including fast food.

I do not care about their self esteem or if it makes them look poor, tough ****, get off your ass and do something if you do not want people looking at you like that

 

[Bunnykid68]

This is being approached from the wrong angle. Ignore political beliefs and leanings entirely. Approach this from a scholastic angle. Doing so removes all personal feelings and beliefs from the equation.

The issue is that the question asked for your opinion. You stated and supported your opinion. You were given a grade of 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Calmly, politely, and rationally approach your teacher from this tack. Ignore the substance of the opinion entirely.

If you are still met with resistance, you're only recourse is to go over your teacher's head. Calmly, politely, and rationally explain to the principal the scholastic error of giving you a 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Also explain that you've attempted to resolve the issue with the teacher to no avail.

I've been in this situation before when I was in high school. Actually, I've been in this situation several times, with the same teacher, in high school. This worked for me every time. I'm sure the principal wasn't wild about me bringing these issues to him. However, when it was explained that the teacher would not even consider discussing the issue, and after consulting with the teacher on his own, the principal sided with me every time. You need to decide if it's worth it. For me it was, win or lose. If nothing else, I was bringing the teachers poor performance to his attention. However, I did make myself a target. Everything I did in her class came under extra scrutiny; assignments, tests, presentations, everything.

Be prepared to explain your position and support it with evidence. Do not whine, complain, bemoan, or belittle the teacher. Have a rational adult conversation. Also, be prepared to lose and accept it.

Nope. He failed. he got his point across but he failed the assignment. He clearly stated in the OP that he had to choose 1 of the 4 scenarios, he chose none and I applaud him for it but, he still failed.

 

[Mosinguy]

This is being approached from the wrong angle. Ignore political beliefs and leanings entirely. Approach this from a scholastic angle. Doing so removes all personal feelings and beliefs from the equation.

The issue is that the question asked for your opinion. You stated and supported your opinion. You were given a grade of 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Calmly, politely, and rationally approach your teacher from this tack. Ignore the substance of the opinion entirely.

If you are still met with resistance, you're only recourse is to go over your teacher's head. Calmly, politely, and rationally explain to the principal the scholastic error of giving you a 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Also explain that you've attempted to resolve the issue with the teacher to no avail.

I've been in this situation before when I was in high school. Actually, I've been in this situation several times, with the same teacher, in high school. This worked for me every time. I'm sure the principal wasn't wild about me bringing these issues to him. However, when it was explained that the teacher would not even consider discussing the issue, and after consulting with the teacher on his own, the principal sided with me every time. You need to decide if it's worth it. For me it was, win or lose. If nothing else, I was bringing the teachers poor performance to his attention. However, I did make myself a target. Everything I did in her class came under extra scrutiny; assignments, tests, presentations, everything.

Be prepared to explain your position and support it with evidence. Do not whine, complain, bemoan, or belittle the teacher. Have a rational adult conversation. Also, be prepared to lose and accept it.

Will be trying this, thanks. Luckily it was a one semester class and school is over in about seven days so I won't have to really worry about future hostilities.

Edit: I actually might not go to the principle because Freshman year I asked what were the procedures to follow if the school had a gunman roaming free, and how the current procedure was supposed to help (the current procedure is for for the front office to he on the PA and let everyone know about the gunman, then block your windows with paper and lock all the doors and literally cower in a corner).

Bottom line, they didn't like that question and instead of answering it, I was THREATENED by police in the office. All this mumbo jumbo about since I asked those questions I could be sent to prison scare tactics really. Then they suspended me until I got counseling, and then the principal had to give the ok to have me come back. So he probably doesn't enjoy me too much. Although...he never says anything to me when I wear my "I Support the Right to Arm Bears" shirt, he even told a hall monitor that freaked out about it that it was ok to wear.

 

[strahd71]

But honestly we can't lump some with all. I wish there was a clear cut and easy way to help out only those who truly need and appreciate it, but for now we are just stuck hoping things get better. I sure don't have all the answers. I was just guessing what the teacher could have meant.

We could start with puting the recipients picture on the card.

Passed that i got no clue either!

Jake

 

[jamil]

Sure thing. Let me get home first and I'll edit this post.

EDIT:

Those four pieces of legislation would be the: 1935 Social Security Act, the 1964 Economic Opportunity Act, the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, and finally the 2006 Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 (not a typo).

My answer is: None of them because I believe if you don't have money because you didn't pay attention in school or because you were irresponsible you don't deserve free money every month.

I think that now because I'm thinking of it my answer could be cleared up a little but it would contain the same answer.

You didn't really answer the question. The question wasn't which, if any, are best. It asked which is best. Even if all options suck, there's usually a best sucky option, kinda like the 2012 crop of R candidates.

But, given the "what about the children?" comment I kinda don't think that's why the teacher didn't give you credit for your answer.

If I were you I'd ask if you received no credit because you didn't answer the question, or if you received no credit because the teacher thought that "none of the above'" is a socially unacceptable answer. If it's socially unacceptable then you KNOW your teacher is a socialist indoctrinating students. At which point you should then ask if it's possible to receive credit while being conservative. If not, then inform that you'll be sure to answer with the socialist point of view in the future so you can pass the socialist...er..uh...sociology class.

 

[sepe]

You should write "Don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em." and hand it back in to the teacher. That is what I'd do. I'm not saying that what I would do would help you in being popular or even liked by teachers/staff (I had a teacher that told me to my face she wished I'd die after I walked into her English class in 11th grade after already having her for 9th and 10th).

 

[Mosinguy]

You didn't really answer the question. The question wasn't which, if any, are best. It asked which is best. Even if all options suck, there's usually a best sucky option, kinda like the 2012 crop of R candidates.

But, given the "what about the children?" comment I kinda don't think that's why the teacher didn't give you credit for your answer.

If I were you I'd ask if you received no credit because you didn't answer the question, or if you received no credit because the teacher thought that "none of the above'" is a socially unacceptable answer. If it's socially unacceptable then you KNOW your teacher is a socialist indoctrinating students. At which point you should then ask if it's possible to receive credit while being conservative. If not, then inform that you'll be sure to answer with the socialist point of view in the future so you can pass the socialist...er..uh...sociology class.

But the question on the paper states: which do you think is best, not which one is the best. The answer would be an opinion either way. I said I didn't agree with any and got a 0. I'll be talking to someone tomorrow.

 

[IndyDave1776]

This stands as clear proof that schools, and this teacher in particular, are in the business of teaching children what to think (indoctrination) rather than how to think (analysis). I would say that this is worth having your parents direct some attention toward the administration and/or school board.

 

[Mosinguy]

This stands as clear proof that schools, and this teacher in particular, are in the business of teaching children what to think (indoctrination) rather than how to think (analysis). I would say that this is worth having your parents direct some attention toward the administration and/or school board.

Too bad my dad couldn't care less it seems.

 

[lowriderjim]

I once got a B- in a grad school marketing class because I chose not to give the professors answer.

I would do the same thing again. Stand by your principles.

 

[churchmouse]

Will be trying this, thanks. Luckily it was a one semester class and school is over in about seven days so I won't have to really worry about future hostilities.

Edit: I actually might not go to the principle because Freshman year I asked what were the procedures to follow if the school had a gunman roaming free, and how the current procedure was supposed to help (the current procedure is for for the front office to he on the PA and let everyone know about the gunman, then block your windows with paper and lock all the doors and literally cower in a corner).

Bottom line, they didn't like that question and instead of answering it, I was THREATENED by police in the office. All this mumbo jumbo about since I asked those questions I could be sent to prison scare tactics really. Then they suspended me until I got counseling, and then the principal had to give the ok to have me come back. So he probably doesn't enjoy me too much. Although...he never says anything to me when I wear my "I Support the Right to Arm Bears" shirt, he even told a hall monitor that freaked out about it that it was ok to wear.

School is getting weird, just weird.

 

[churchmouse]

Too bad my dad couldn't care less it seems.

He may only just realize the futility of correcting this. He would be ignored.

 

[jamil]

But the question on the paper states: which do you think is best, not which one is the best. The answer would be an opinion either way. I said I didn't agree with any and got a 0. I'll be talking to someone tomorrow.

Yes, the answer would be an opinion either way, and saying neither is best is an opinion but it answers the question no better than saying all are best. But as I said, it doesn't matter because it's obvious your teacher expected a politically correct answer. You may have gotten partial credit (or maybe an automatic A+) if you would have said all are best.

Too bad my dad couldn't care less it seems.

If my son came home from school and showed me that paper I'd probably be all over the school. But if I intervened, it probably wouldn't be the best thing for my son in the grand scheme of things. I think it makes you stronger when you have to stand up for yourself. Maybe your dad doesn't care, but maybe he's just letting you grow.

 

[BBill]

I wonder what the Socialist "teacher" would say if Mosin had said it wasn't his problem and he'd be damned if he would "Spread The Wealth." Also if they starved they would get a job or quit droppin a kid every 8 months! I hope I've offended the libs here!

 

[Shelly1582]

We could start with puting the recipients picture on the card.

Passed that i got no clue either!

Jake

That's not a bad idea.

To the other guy; Who told you food stamp cards can be used at fast food places?

 

[88GT]

This is being approached from the wrong angle. Ignore political beliefs and leanings entirely. Approach this from a scholastic angle. Doing so removes all personal feelings and beliefs from the equation.

The issue is that the question asked for your opinion. You stated and supported your opinion. You were given a grade of 0 for doing exactly what was asked of you. Calmly, politely, and rationally approach your teacher from this tack. Ignore the substance of the opinion entirely.

Not really. He didn't answer the question. He offered an opinion, but not one that answered the question.

In simpler terms, his teacher asked him which of the following flavors of ice cream tastes the best to him: chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, or pistachio. If he answers Moose Tracks he hasn't answered the question. He's given an opinion, yes, but he hasn't answered the opinion.

OP, it's been said already, but if you want to succeed, you're going to need to learn the art of diplomacy. If you want to make a statement about the unconstitutional use of taxpayer dollars to redistribute wealth, then preface your answer with a quick statement that while all of the programs are constitutional "wrong" because the federal government has no authority to confiscate wealth and redistribute it to certain groups at the exclusion of others, you would choose X because....and then list the reasons. Your opinion here cannot be invalidated and you would have correctly fulfilled the obligations of the questions.

I don't think you answered the question. And even the response you gave, no matter how righteously justified, is a pretty poor explanation for not supporting entitlement programs. Your use of opinion/emotion to oppose it validates the use of opinion/emotion to support them. You presented nothing more than the "Well, *I* think entitlement programs are wrong." Big deal. OThers think they are right. Show how they are wrong or don't bring it up at all.

Her comment, regardless of everything I've written above, is just stupid. You will not be able to provide a satisfactory answer. So just ignore it and move on.