Trump 2024 ???

[Twangbanger]

You are being suckered into the lefts narrative. Just what they want.

See the above post and see how wrong your winning snark is.

You don't seem to grasp the important difference between Trump _endorsing_ somebody, and Trump _picking_ somebody. I would wager a significant number of those candidates Trump "endorsed" were already going to win their primaries and go on to victory anyway, regardless whether Trump endorsed them or not. But they still get counted as part of Trump's "victory" tally, according to your sources, whether he was the difference-maker or not.

In the case of Oz and Herschel Walker, Trump didn't just "endorse" those guys. He "made" those guys. In Oz's case, Trump basically blew another GOP primary candidate out of the water by endorsing a TV doctor. Oz wouldn't have been the candidate without Trump's endorsement.

When you look at the 2 key races where Trump "made" the candidate - as opposed to just jumping on the bandwagons of candidates destined to win anyway - he went 0-for2.

If Trump is killing it so good, then we shouldn't be worse off in the Senate than we were 6 weeks ago.

Trump needs to get back to "making" top-notch candidate picks. A certain guy in Florida comes to mind. It can be done. But Herschel f'ing Walker? Geez, people.

 

[jamil]

You TDS guys crack me up, one trick ponies. To wrapped up in your own BS to see what is actially being done to all of us. Trump is just a proxy for us…

So then why did you endorse Herschel Walker in GA and then throw him under the bus? Why did you **** a pornstar by proxy while your proxy wife is pregnant with your proxy kid?

If Trump’s your proxy, he’s a proxy for the bad with the good. But then you’d have to admit there is some bad.

You know there is a better way. A way you can retain conscientious consistency.

 

[KG1]

Trump's endorsement likely helped Oz and Walker win their respective primaries, but it didn't carry over to the General election.

 

[jamil]

Why are you buying into the lefts narrative? FOX reported much different numbers that the MSM were using in their fake news.

“At this point, 216 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed won their races Tuesday night, with 19 losing to the Democrat candidate.”

Trump touts ‘tremendous’ wins for endorsed candidates, says ‘why would anything change?’ on 2024 announcement

EXCLUSIVE: Former President Donald Trump is celebrating the wins of the more than 200 Republican candidates he endorsed who claimed victory in their midterm election races and maintaining that his plans for 2024 have not changed due to the “tremendous success” he had.

www.foxnews.com

“So far, Trump appears on track for a roughly 89% success rate with his general election picks, having eked out 233 victories and 28 losses with about seven races outstanding. This is based on the Washington Examiner's tally of 268 endorsements.”

A look at Trump’s general election endorsements for the midterm elections - Washington Examiner

Since his departure from the White House, former President Donald Trump has held a pronounced political presence from the sidelines, flexing his clout as a kingmaker to steer the GOP with his enviable stamp of approval. Throughout the primaries, Trump touted a roughly 92% success record with his...

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Well ****. I expect a Republican of any stripe, CoC, Neocon, or Trumper to win in red states. How’d they do in the races that really mattered?

 

[jamil]

Trump's endorsement likely helped Oz and Walker win their respective primaries, but it didn't carry over to the General election.

I’d go further with that and say it put weaker candidates to compete in a market where Trump’s endorsement is a liability.

 

[jamil]

You are being suckered into the lefts narrative. Just what they want.

See the above post and see how wrong your winning snark is.

Or, you’re being suckered into the cult of personality that is Trump. Into believing that everything he touches turns to gold. He’s just a man. As President he got a lot of wins. More than I expected. In terms of policy, on balance, I can’t think of a president who beats that. But there are downsides that you guys eagerly dismiss.

This is one of them. Judgement. He kinda has a really bad track record.

 

[jamil]

You don't seem to grasp the important difference between Trump _endorsing_ somebody, and Trump _picking_ somebody. I would wager a significant number of those candidates Trump "endorsed" were already going to win their primaries and go on to victory anyway, regardless whether Trump endorsed them or not. But they still get counted as part of Trump's "victory" tally, according to your sources, whether he was the difference-maker or not.

In the case of Oz and Herschel Walker, Trump didn't just "endorse" those guys. He "made" those guys. In Oz's case, Trump basically blew another GOP primary candidate out of the water by endorsing a TV doctor. Oz wouldn't have been the candidate without Trump's endorsement.

When you look at the 2 key races where Trump "made" the candidate - as opposed to just jumping on the bandwagons of candidates destined to win anyway - he went 0-for2.

If Trump is killing it so good, then we shouldn't be worse off in the Senate than we were 6 weeks ago.

Trump needs to get back to "making" top-notch candidate picks. A certain guy in Florida comes to mind. It can be done. But Herschel f'ing Walker? Geez, people.

The guy in FL won’t count for anything. They’re all convinced he’s part of the swamp. Because any legitimate competitor to Trump has to be the enemy.

 

[Route 45]

100% of the Republicans that I voted for in my heavily Republican district won their races. I should change my username to Kingmaker.

 

[KG1]

I’d go further with that and say it put weaker candidates to compete in a market where Trump’s endorsement is a liability.

I would go even further than that and say it was a lack of good judgment on Trump's part to endorse such flawed candidates. His reason for endorsing them was primarily because he thought they would be widely popular due to their "celebrity" status, and it would carry them over to victory. Didn't happen. Thier "celebrity " status didn't mean **** in the end.

 

[KG1]

I guess in fairness though I think all the candidates in the primaries were pretty much crap. I think Trump's original endorsement of Sean Parnell in the Pa primary ended up dropping out because of domestic abuse allegations so of the two remaining he chose Oz. If I'm remembering correctly, I think I read that even his original endorsee thought, it was a bad decision to endorse Oz.

 

[BugI02]

Aaand another hand-picked Trump candidate goes down.

Are we tired of winning yet?

Senator Vance says no

 

[Leadeye]

I suspect a good portion of that is housing affordability…

Here's another odd area, you would think that property values would drop with the conditions in big cities. I remember in the 70s cities were having to juggle assessed values of property to keep tax numbers up but were fighting a losing battle as business and people fled.

I'll be curious to see in the future just how bad it gets before people lose faith in the machines and what those same machines do to stay in power.

 

[BugI02]

Well, whatever the motivation in pointing this out is, it seems clear that a Trump endorsement is rapidly turning into the kiss of death. Kinda like being the Republican candidate for president that I vote for in the Primary since 1988.

You mean like Kari Lake, an unapologetic America First candidate who comes from nowhere to almost beat her opponent for governor in Arizona despite her opponent also being in charge of the election and refusing to investigate irregularities including an opaque, excruciatingly long counting process, tabulators that wouldn't accept voting machine produced ballots, the unexplained long term outage of cameras meant to oversee counting in the most populous county, and then overruling one of the other state counties (Cochise) that refused to certify the election results?

Just think what she could have done in a free and fair election. Now, put on your thinking cap - is Trump in charge of election procedures in any state? So, is it his fault when ... suspicious activity, shall we say ... potentially affects an election outcome? Do you think anyone Lake beat in the primary had a better chance to win in Arizona? If so, who? Do you think Lake could have gotten as far as she did without Trump's endorsement?

As an infamous INGOer is wont to say, blaming only Trump is binary thinking. Trump's endorsement got MANY candidates a primary win

 

[KG1]

View attachment 241030 Senator Vance says no

Caveat. Vance was a more electable candidate on his own in OH than Oz was in PA or Walker was in GA. Trump's endorsement did'nt help them.

 

[jamil]

View attachment 241030 Senator Vance says no

A Republican seat was won by a Republican in Ohio. Yes. That’s a win. Of course we hope to see wins where wins are expected.

What happened in PA? What happened in GA? Did Trump’s endorsement help or hurt?

In the red wave, did Trump’s endorsement help or hurt what we all expected to happen. Part of the dems strategy to lessen the onslaught was to put Trump on the ballot in all the blueish areas where Democrats’ policies made them vulnerable. It seems to have worked.

 

[BugI02]

I would go even further than that and say it was a lack of good judgment on Trump's part to endorse such flawed candidates. His reason for endorsing them was primarily because he thought they would be widely popular due to their "celebrity" status, and it would carry them over to victory. Didn't happen. Thier "celebrity " status didn't mean **** in the end.

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[BugI02]

I'll be curious to see in the future just how bad it gets before people lose faith in the machines and what those same machines do to stay in power.

Unless, during redistricting, big cities are cut up like pies with sections of urban areas married to suburban sections to create numerous competitive districts, I don't see how the machines can be taken apart or even how to prevent CHI and NYC situations where they dominate politics for the whole state

 

[BugI02]

A Republican seat was won by a Republican in Ohio. Yes. That’s a win. Of course we hope to see wins where wins are expected.

What happened in PA? What happened in GA? Did Trump’s endorsement help or hurt?

In the red wave, did Trump’s endorsement help or hurt what we all expected to happen. Part of the dems strategy to lessen the onslaught was to put Trump on the ballot in all the blueish areas where Democrats’ policies made them vulnerable. It seems to have worked.

See IngoMike's post about Trump's won/lost record. Granted we lost some races we wanted to win (and you are exclusively focused on that), but if the condition of the country wasn't sufficient to motivate people to change things up then the messaging problem is far bigger than can be blamed on Trump

If enough votes could be harvested to put a stroked out mutant in the senate, do you really think a hedge fund CEO would have done enough better to get the win? The whinging seems to be more about Trump's endorsement actually being effective at getting that person into the election, but the primary is the PEOPLE'S choice for a candidate so why blame just Trump - Oh, yeah, that's right

In Georgia, the vote in this run-off exceeded all previous vote numbers except the 2020 run-off, including the 2020 presidential vote. I would submit that that was more about retaining control of the senate for Democrats when it was already known that they lost the house than any sort of Trump animus. I'm not saying that didn't exist but I doubt it was a dominant force

I think McConnell deserves far more blame for these outcomes than you are willing to assign, including publicly dissing the candidates he didn't like (mostly America First types) and pulling funding from winnable races as well as deploying funding against viable AF challengers (Alaska). Was it the senate minority leader's job to do anything other than strive to win with the candidates THE PEOPLE gave him?

 

[KG1]

Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schartzenegger disapprove of this post

I guess RR and AS were bigger celebrities and more popular than OM and HW.

 

[foszoe]

Why are you buying into the lefts narrative? FOX reported much different numbers that the MSM were using in their fake news.

“At this point, 216 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed won their races Tuesday night, with 19 losing to the Democrat candidate.”

Trump touts ‘tremendous’ wins for endorsed candidates, says ‘why would anything change?’ on 2024 announcement

EXCLUSIVE: Former President Donald Trump is celebrating the wins of the more than 200 Republican candidates he endorsed who claimed victory in their midterm election races and maintaining that his plans for 2024 have not changed due to the “tremendous success” he had.

www.foxnews.com

“So far, Trump appears on track for a roughly 89% success rate with his general election picks, having eked out 233 victories and 28 losses with about seven races outstanding. This is based on the Washington Examiner's tally of 268 endorsements.”

A look at Trump’s general election endorsements for the midterm elections - Washington Examiner

Since his departure from the White House, former President Donald Trump has held a pronounced political presence from the sidelines, flexing his clout as a kingmaker to steer the GOP with his enviable stamp of approval. Throughout the primaries, Trump touted a roughly 92% success record with his...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

How many of those were for seats that were highly contested?