The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[smokingman]

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports By Reuters

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports

www.investing.com

Wonder how much support they will keep giving to past customers?
Looks like Nissan may end up owning a big chunk of it after it files bankruptcy.

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports By Reuters

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports

www.investing.com

 

[JCSR]

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports By Reuters

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports

www.investing.com

Wonder how much support they will keep giving to past customers?
Looks like Nissan may end up owning a big chunk of it after it files bankruptcy.

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports By Reuters

EV startup Fisker prepares for possible bankruptcy filing, WSJ reports

www.investing.com

 

[Ingomike]

“Those "less tech-savvy buyers" only know that the range of EVs is limited. They know that their trusted mechanic probably doesn't know a lot about how to service EVs. And they aren't blind. They know that charging stations are few and far between.”


Oh yes, those rubes that are not enlightened like the early adopters and elites.

Automakers Are Pulling Back or Delaying the Transition to EVs

pjmedia.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

“Those "less tech-savvy buyers" only know that the range of EVs is limited. They know that their trusted mechanic probably doesn't know a lot about how to service EVs. And they aren't blind. They know that charging stations are few and far between.”


Oh yes, those rubes that are not enlightened like the early adopters and elites.

Automakers Are Pulling Back or Delaying the Transition to EVs

pjmedia.com

Probably sometime late this year it will be time for another oil/gas supply emergency.

 

[Ingomike]

When will the car manufacturers and unions push back? Ever?

“Expected as soon as Wednesday, the Biden EPA "is poised to finalize emissions rules that will effectively require a certain percentage — as much as two-thirds by 2032 — of new cars to be all-electric," according to Inside EVs.“

EV Market Imploding, So Biden Is About to Mandate Them

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[Leadeye]

Car manufacturers will be out of business and unions hanging around congress begging for "retraining" programs as the American auto industry is shipped to china via mexico.

 

[Doug]

Car manufacturers will be out of business and unions hanging around congress begging for "retraining" programs as the American auto industry is shipped to china via mexico.

Gee... you might say it would be a bloodbath for the auto workers.

 

[Leadeye]

Gee... you might say it would be a bloodbath for the auto workers.

Just look at how fast the TV industry vanished. A big employer here in Indiana.

 

[Ingomike]

Possible bankruptcy for EV maker Fisker as industry hit with declining consumer interest

Fisker reported in February it had $273 million in sales in 2023, with more than $1 billion in debt, and the company announced it was laying off 15% of its workforce.

justthenews.com

 

[Ingomike]

Europe faces EV challenges similar to those in US, production problems allow China to fill the void

China is already the world’s largest, and perhaps most influential, producer of automobiles

justthenews.com

 

[indykid]

Once again the people speak with their dollars, or lack thereof. Now to get our government to listen to the people as demanded by the constitution.

 

[JTKelly]

This is what it feels like when your EV runs out of juice and you can't reach a plug. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i...-mission-this-year-ab3fcf74?mod=mw_latestnews

 

[Leadeye]

The Chinese electric Trabant will finish the US car industry, with Davosian leadership in dc pushing hard all the way.

Like the beer "salesman" in the Untouchables said, "it's not supposed to be good, it's supposed to be bought".

 

[smokingman]

It is a long article, but in short it breaks down Kwh of energy per mile(explains how it did it as well) and ice engines are more than 30% more efficient than an electric car(using nuclear and natural gas to get the electricity). If wind and solar is used in the calculation then it is over 60% more efficient.

The Norwegian Illusion: EVs Are Not More Energy Efficient | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[smokingman]

Nissan Aims To Cut Costs By 30% Simply To Remain Competitive In EVs | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Mij]

Interested in how the direction of this conversation goes... I find it difficult to discuss electric cars with some folks

I really, really want a Tesla. I think they are neat and the future. I don't care about the environment, I don't care about saving money.

Whenever I mention those 3 things up front, some immediately want to steer the conversation towards how they "don't help the environment as much as claimed" or "it costs more than they say" in a passionate attempt to dissuade me from wanting one.

Bring on the Cybertruck!

 

[KLB]

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[MRockwell]

Was looking through a Saturday Evening Post from 1911, and saw this ad:

Wonder what the cost of that one was back then...

 

[Ingomike]

Wonder what the cost of that one was back then...

This says the 1914 model was $3730 when the model T was as low as $265. Interesting that “for an additional US$600, an Edison nickel-iron battery was available“.

“Clara Ford, wife of Henry Ford, drove this Detroit Electric. In the years before World War I many women chose electric cars because they started instantly without hand cranking and had no difficult-to-shift transmission.”

1914 Detroit Electric Model 47 Brougham, Personal Car of Clara Ford - The Henry Ford

Clara Ford, wife of Henry Ford, drove this Detroit Electric. In the years before World War I many women chose electric cars because they started instantly without hand cranking and had no difficult-to-shift transmission. The superintendent of the Detroit Electric factory employed his daughter...

www.thehenryford.org

 

[MRockwell]

This says the 1914 model was $3730 when the model T was as low as $265. Interesting that “for an additional US$600, an Edison nickel-iron battery was available“.

“Clara Ford, wife of Henry Ford, drove this Detroit Electric. In the years before World War I many women chose electric cars because they started instantly without hand cranking and had no difficult-to-shift transmission.”

1914 Detroit Electric Model 47 Brougham, Personal Car of Clara Ford - The Henry Ford

Clara Ford, wife of Henry Ford, drove this Detroit Electric. In the years before World War I many women chose electric cars because they started instantly without hand cranking and had no difficult-to-shift transmission. The superintendent of the Detroit Electric factory employed his daughter...

www.thehenryford.org

Thanks for that, I hadn't had time to do much searching. I did a snip of the ad because I remember seeing in this thread that electric cars were around way back then(not a new-fangled invention).
So, according to in2013dollars.com, $3730 would be worth $121,843 in 2024, with the nickel iron battery at $19,599. And a T would be $8,656. Boggles my mind. I went down the rabbit hole looking at those old Saturday Evening Post's.