The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[actaeon277]

 

[smokingman]

Fisker Slashes Price Of Its Only Model By 39% In Last-Ditch Bid To Stay Solvent | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Ingomike]

I was told on INGO that no one was going to force anyone to buy an electric vehicle, waiting for the apologies.

“Ford will need to build two fully electric F150s for every gas-powered F150. By 2032, the company will need to build four electric F150s for every gas-powered F150.”​

“The Environmental Protection Agency somewhat eased CO2 emissions requirements through 2030 from its proposal last spring while maintaining essentially the same end-point for 2032. That means gas-powered cars can make up no more than 30% of auto sales by 2032. Make no mistake: This is a coerced phase-out of gas-powered cars.”

Biden’s EV mandate likely to severely limit how many conventional vehicles automakers can produce

Ford will need to build two fully electric F150s for every gas-powered F150. By 2032, the company will need to build four electric F150s for every gas-powered F150.

justthenews.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-electric-vehicle-mandate-gas-powered-cars-2032-epa-c2a72414?st=rap9rqfrz7mxkzq&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[Ingomike]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Good ideas don’t have to be mandated or forced.

 

[firecadet613]

Ran across this on Facebook yesterday. It really makes me want to run out and buy one.... NOT!

 

[BigRed]

Truckers challenge Biden administration over climate crackdown on electric big rigs

U.S. truckers are expressing concern that recent rules finalized by the Biden administration that push for more electric trucks will negatively impact their businesses.

www.foxnews.com

What is it with this **** sucker?

 

[indyblue]

Truckers challenge Biden administration over climate crackdown on electric big rigs

U.S. truckers are expressing concern that recent rules finalized by the Biden administration that push for more electric trucks will negatively impact their businesses.

www.foxnews.com

What is it with this **** sucker?

The “fundamental transformation” of the most successful and powerful country on the planet to third world status.

 

[Ingomike]

Truckers challenge Biden administration over climate crackdown on electric big rigs

U.S. truckers are expressing concern that recent rules finalized by the Biden administration that push for more electric trucks will negatively impact their businesses.

www.foxnews.com

What is it with this **** sucker?

“ fundamental transformation” of the most successful and powerful country on the planet to third world status

Once one realizes the destruction of this country is their goal it all makes sense…

 

[firecadet613]

Once one realizes the destruction of this country is their goal it all makes sense…

If you were trying to destroy this country, would you be doing anything differently?

 

[Ingomike]

If you were trying to destroy this country, would you be doing anything differently?

NO!

 

[indyblue]

In WVA vs EPA the conclusion stated:

"Congress did not grant the Environmental Protection Agency in Section 111(d) of the Clean Air Act the authority to devise emissions caps based on the generation shifting approach the Agency took in the Clean Power Plan."​

​

Under the “major questions doctrine,” there are “extraordinary cases” in which the “history and the breadth of the authority that [the agency] has asserted,” and the “economic and political significance” of that assertion, provide a “reason to hesitate before concluding that Congress” meant to confer such authority. This is one such case, so the EPA must point to “clear congressional authorization” for the authority it claims. It cannot do so.​

Surely this action by the EPA could should be struck down by the same reasoning. This cannot stand (or we are screwed).

 

[Ingomike]

In WVA vs EPA the conclusion stated:


Surely this action by the EPA could should be struck down by the same reasoning. This cannot stand (or we are screwed).

Even if it is overturned, it inflicts damage to the people. Just the announcement has market effects. They can lose every time and there is no cost to anyone. The people lose once and it is permanent. Also the people must use their resources to combat those using their tax dollars to control them…

 

[jamil]

Truckers challenge Biden administration over climate crackdown on electric big rigs

U.S. truckers are expressing concern that recent rules finalized by the Biden administration that push for more electric trucks will negatively impact their businesses.

www.foxnews.com

What is it with this **** sucker?

You're asking that about bootyjudge?

 

[BigRed]

You're asking that about bootyjudge?

I'm talking about the whole ******* cabal of scum bag commie centralizers.

 

[jamil]

I'm talking about the whole ******* cabal of scum bag commie centralizers.

It was a joke of sorts. So if you were calling bootyjudge a **** sucker, it’s a bit of a tautology.

 

[Percolater]

Was looking through a Saturday Evening Post from 1911, and saw this ad:
View attachment 342791
Wonder what the cost of that one was back then...

Just saw this at Ford Museum last weekend.

 

[Percolater]

Also had this little “comuta-car”

 

[amboy49]

Younger folks should wait until fusion power comes online. Then EVs might make more sense if electric rates drop to a penny per kWh or even free. Or, better yet, use that power to usher in a hydrogen transportation system where fillups return to gas stations and EV batteries become obsolete. Got a lot of easily obtainable hydrogen in the oceans if it costs little or nothing to disassociate it.

Not anywhere near well informed about the hydrogen topic as a fuel source. Bit, two things. First, hydrogen is VERY volatile. (Think Hindenburg blimp). Secondly, unless I'm mistaken it takes a LOT of electricity to convert hydrogen into a useable fuel.

Lastly, what makes you think the price of electricity will come down ? Even if liquid natural gas or coal was free there are still costs associated with the infrastructure necessary to generate and distribute electricity.

I can practically guarantee one thing - if the government is involved it will be regulated more, cost more, and be less efficient. All the while the entitled politicians will travel by whatever means they wish. When I see Biden on an electric powered Air Force One I'll change my mind. Finders crossed to see that happen.