The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[GodFearinGunTotin]

$1.3M Fire at GM Plant Likely Caused by Punctured Batteries

A forklift hit a pallet of EV batteries.

www.manufacturing.net

Fork truck drivers at the GM plant I’m familiar with are rarely held responsible for collisions they have with their trucks. Something like this though...s/he probably got a balance of shift and (depending on his/her record) a day or more off…s/he will get paid for it eventually.

 

[bwframe]

Fork truck drivers at the GM plant I’m familiar with are rarely held responsible for collisions they have with their trucks. Something like this though...s/he probably got a balance of shift and (depending on his/her record) a day or more off…s/he will get paid for it eventually.

I wonder about the fragility of these batteries? If we cannot harden them up, what about their packaging?

Next question is what happens in a bad accident involving EV's?

 

[Doug]

I wonder about the fragility of these batteries? If we cannot harden them up, what about their packaging?

Next question is what happens in a bad accident involving EV's?

Puncture battery, all die.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I wonder about the fragility of these batteries? If we cannot harden them up, what about their packaging?

Next question is what happens in a bad accident involving EV's?

Got me. Just spitballing here but I would imagine that once they’re in the vehicle there is much greater protection than when they’re setting on pallets on the plant floor.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

This is one way to minimize the cost of owning an EV, I suppose.

(I wonder how she found that charger?)

 

[Ingomike]

No one here is arguing for everyone to drive them.

The point of the thread is the current administration and TPTB are doing way more than arguing for everyone to drive them.

 

[KLB]

The point of the thread is the current administration and TPTB are doing way more than arguing for everyone to drive them.

Funny. I thought it was just to point out every example of a negative thing that could be found about EVs, whether real or imagined.

 

[Ingomike]

Funny. I thought it was just to point out every example of a negative thing that could be found about EVs, whether real or imagined.

I’m sure you can find a source that will fulfill your desire for only positive news concerning EV’s…

 

[Percolater]

The woke hate Elon since he freed the bird, funny how the same top rated models for 12 years are now crap rated and everyone here posts those links (fulfilling your desires)

 

[KLB]

I’m sure you can find a source that will fulfill your desire for only positive news concerning EV’s…

Typical misrepresentation of what you are replying to.

 

[Percolater]

5 Teslas at the light this morning made for a legendary rally down 465 to work. My adrenaline is still flowing.

 

[Ingomike]

Funny. I thought it was just to point out every example of a negative thing that could be found about EVs, whether real or imagined.

Typical misrepresentation of what you are replying to.

I read your top post as purple, but if “The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership”
are not what you want, then you might look elsewhere…

 

[KLB]

500 EVs Among The 3000 Cars On Burning Ship Off Dutch Coast | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Reuters pointed out that the Dutch coastguard said the fire's origin is unknown, but Dutch broadcaster RTL said emergency responders were heard saying, "The fire started in the battery of an electric car."

The fire broke out late Tuesday night on board the vessel. Coastguard officials said the fire "could still burn for days." The latest known position of the ship was off the northern Dutch coast on Wednesday.

Another false story. They haven't figured out where the fire started, but they know it wasn't in an EV. All 500 were recovered undamaged.

MV Fremantle Highway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The German company BLG stated that they had loaded 2,500 cars and "high and heavy" cargo on Fremantle Highway at the port of Bremerhaven in addition to already loaded cars.[4] On 28 July, it was reported that there were almost 500 electric cars on the ship, which was significantly more than originally assumed, although all were recovered without significant damage and did not contribute to the fire.

Salvage Completed on Fire-Damaged Car Carrier Fremantle Highway

The salvage operation to remove cars and debris from the fire-damaged car carrier Fremantle Highway has been completed. It is thought that as many as...

maritime-executive.com

While the fire is still officially listed as under investigation, the trade Automobilwoche contends the preliminary survey and report say apparently the fire was not caused by electric cars. The manifest showed there were 498 electric vehicles and hybrids and a total of 3,784 vehicles including some heavy equipment in addition to cars.

One may have caught fire while being removed though.

 

[KLB]

I read your top post as purple, but if “The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership”
are not what you want, then you might look elsewhere…

 

[actaeon277]

This is one way to minimize the cost of owning an EV, I suppose.

(I wonder how she found that charger?)

Maybe they should wire a control in the house, that shuts down the charger.
Like... an on/off switch/relay.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Maybe they should wire a control in the house, that shuts down the charger.
Like... and on/off switch/relay.

I’m thinking that would be racist.

 

[Doug]

Maybe they should wire a control in the house, that shuts down the charger.
Like... and on/off switch/relay.

Then the entitled would simply watch the see when they were charging their car and pull in and switch the plug to their own car.

 

[KLB]

Maybe they should wire a control in the house, that shuts down the charger.
Like... and on/off switch/relay.

Or a breaker.... They generally have dedicated 40 or 50 amp breakers.

 

[KLB]

Then the entitled would simply watch the see when they were charging their car and pull in and switch the plug to their own car.

Mine locks in. Looks like Teslas have to buy a lock for theirs.

 

[smokingman]

Another false story. They haven't figured out where the fire started, but they know it wasn't in an EV. All 500 were recovered undamaged.

MV Fremantle Highway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Salvage Completed on Fire-Damaged Car Carrier Fremantle Highway

The salvage operation to remove cars and debris from the fire-damaged car carrier Fremantle Highway has been completed. It is thought that as many as...

maritime-executive.com

One may have caught fire while being removed though.

Images appeared on Dutch TV of a Mercedes-Benz, likely an EQE Sedan or EQS (they look the same at a distance) being hoisted off the ship. While it looks fine it is lowered into a steel bin and firefighters can be seen spraying water into the bin and steam rises. They then cover the bin with a tarp to cut off oxygen to the fire – a standard method accepted for fighting battery fires on EVs.

I do not believe either way at the moment. True we are not certain of what caused the fire. But the gasoline/hybrid cars driving off down the ramp were not on fire. The BMW EV appears to have been at least heated to the point that the batteries burst into flame when enough oxygen was present. It leads me to think one of the BMW EV's was more than likely the source. Given the push in the EU media for everyone to drive an EV, I do not trust them when they say "likely not an EV" that started the fire.