THE CZickness XLVIII....."The Holidays are Coming" edition...

[88E30M50]

I need me some old man wisdom...

So the gift dilemma from a few weeks ago... its an IPhone... I hate Iphone. I found out when I called my wife to let her know I was going to pick up the new Samsung because my 4-5year old phone is on its last legs... I am completely set up for android. Tablet, earbuds, headphones, laptop 100 chargers. Not sure how to play this. I'm trying to be appreciative, but a $1200 otd iphone vs. $400 galaxy s22 ultra with my trade in... I know she meant the absolute best, and I love her for it.

I'd say honesty would be the best course with this. She is doing this to make you happy, so she should be understanding if you swap it out.

Just my two cents...

 

[T-DOGG]

Results of testing below. I was surprised to the winner. I think the slight forward pressure on the bipod, slight pulling pressure on the pistol grip and moderate squeeze on the rear bag all made for a solid and repeatable setup.

Initial sight in with my "free" biobelt target.



Full Monte testing grid. I really really enjoyed shooting this today. It was rewarding and calming as well. I felt "connected" at times with the rifle, like I could "tell" it what I wanted it to do on a telekinetic level.

 

[Born2vette]

Decided to do some testing of different bench rest setups today with my 457. This was not what I originally had planned, but it turned out to be a fun comparison.

Setup 1) Front and rear Wiebad bags, with a 3" wide front bag rider attached to the forend of the rifle.

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Setup 2) Rock BR front rest, protektor silver slick flat front rest w/3" bag rider, rear Protektor silver slick Dr rest.


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Setup 3) Atlas Cal bipod on front, rear Wiebad bag, Midway shooting mat strapped down to bench. The mat has pockets at the front that the bipod legs can be pushed against. I would have preferred a 2x4 clamped to the bench instead of the mat pockets, but I used what I had with me.

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And the winner was…

 

[bcannon]

Decided to do some testing of different bench rest setups today with my 457. This was not what I originally had planned, but it turned out to be a fun comparison.

Setup 1) Front and rear Wiebad bags, with a 3" wide front bag rider attached to the forend of the rifle.

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Setup 2) Rock BR front rest, protektor silver slick flat front rest w/3" bag rider, rear Protektor silver slick Dr rest.


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Setup 3) Atlas Cal bipod on front, rear Wiebad bag, Midway shooting mat strapped down to bench. The mat has pockets at the front that the bipod legs can be pushed against. I would have preferred a 2x4 clamped to the bench instead of the mat pockets, but I used what I had with me.

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Which one gave you the best results?

Edit: nvm just seen you post

 

[Born2vette]

And the winner was…

Just saw your post (must have dropped while I was typing). Some sweet small groups.

 

[Ruger_Ronin]

Yeah I know. Saw 2 deer in a field on the drive home. Bedtime has been a fight/tantrum lately with the 4yo...didn't want to leave the Mrs stranded.

I feel your pains. Angry momma's don't tend to sign permission slips for later field trips.

 

[Bennettjh]

Results of testing below. I was surprised to the winner. I think the slight forward pressure on the bipod, slight pulling pressure on the pistol grip and moderate squeeze on the rear bag all made for a solid and repeatable setup.

Initial sight in with my "free" biobelt target.

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Full Monte testing grid. I really really enjoyed shooting this today. It was rewarding and calming as well. I felt "connected" at times with the rifle, like I could "tell" it what I wanted it to do on a telekinetic level.

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I would've guessed setup 2 would've been the winner. Interesting.

 

[mcapo]

I would've guessed setup 2 would've been the winner. Interesting.

Set up 2 had the smallest individual groups though not the average. Maybe he was addressing the rifle too much in that setup?

Kinda like over tightening a screw. Right, Mr. tdogg? ;-)

 

[Bennettjh]

Set up 2 had the smallest individual groups though not the average. Maybe he was addressing the rifle too much in that setup?

Kinda like over tightening a screw. Right, Mr. tdogg? ;-)

That's true. A .187 and .297. No other set up went under .3.

 

[T-DOGG]

Set up 2 had the smallest individual groups though not the average. Maybe he was addressing the rifle too much in that setup?

Kinda like over tightening a screw. Right, Mr. tdogg? ;-)

My thoughts as well. That setup seems better suited, as several of you will attest, to being shot with the rifle slightly floating and avoiding disrupting anything once the reticle is perfectly aligned to its aiming point. That would explain why I've struggled with that setup, I have a really hard time practicing that style of shooting and prefer to shoot a rifle the way I would in a "field" type environment.

 

[ChrisK]

Almost to the right temperature….at 191, 205 is where I want to be.

 

[MindfulMan]

My thoughts as well. That setup seems better suited, as several of you will attest, to being shot with the rifle slightly floating and avoiding disrupting anything once the reticle is perfectly aligned to its aiming point. That would explain why I've struggled with that setup, I have a really hard time practicing that style of shooting and prefer to shoot a rifle the way I would in a "field" type environment.

Aha .... sorcery ! I must find a proper incantation of my own.

 

[Born2vette]

My thoughts as well. That setup seems better suited, as several of you will attest, to being shot with the rifle slightly floating and avoiding disrupting anything once the reticle is perfectly aligned to its aiming point. That would explain why I've struggled with that setup, I have a really hard time practicing that style of shooting and prefer to shoot a rifle the way I would in a "field" type environment.

I have found when competing that as I get farther along in the match I start gripping the rifle and then get ‘flyers’. I score much better when relaxed. The new trigger spring will let me have less contact with the rifle and hopefully improve my scores. My recent range outting was encouraging in this. Used my Rock BR and protektor rear bag.

 

[WebSnyper]

I need me some old man wisdom...

So the gift dilemma from a few weeks ago... its an IPhone... I hate Iphone. I found out when I called my wife to let her know I was going to pick up the new Samsung because my 4-5year old phone is on its last legs... I am completely set up for android. Tablet, earbuds, headphones, laptop 100 chargers. Not sure how to play this. I'm trying to be appreciative, but a $1200 otd iphone vs. $400 galaxy s22 ultra with my trade in... I know she meant the absolute best, and I love her for it.

I agree with the other folks, on this one about returning it. IPhone vs. Android is not something I'd ever try and flip someone from one to the other. It's like coke vs Pepsi, or Glock vs 1911. People have their preference and are invested in a platform. My wife has been in the Android camp since her first smart phone, and I'd never attempt to buy her something else, especially as a surprise. Plus it's something one uses every day and often, and pretty much in the tool category these days.

 

[Bennettjh]

I have found when competing that as I get farther along in the match I start gripping the rifle and then get ‘flyers’. I score much better when relaxed. The new trigger spring will let me have less contact with the rifle and hopefully improve my scores. My recent range outting was encouraging in this. Used my Rock BR and protektor rear bag.

I tense up and I can see the reticle get jumpy. Have to tell myself to relax, be one with the rifle. I really dig my Rock BR as well. Simple, inexpensive. Got it on sale at Midway.

Need to invest in a Protektor bag though. Those are smooth as silk.

 

[Usmccookie]

I agree with the other folks, on this one about returning it. IPhone vs. Android is not something I'd ever try and flip someone from one to the other. It's like coke vs Pepsi, or Glock vs 1911. People have their preference and are invested in a platform. My wife has been in the Android camp since her first smart phone, and I'd never attempt to buy her something else, especially as a surprise. Plus it's something one uses every day and often, and pretty much in the tool category these days.

So now let's do that without hurting her feelings about not liking her gift. I think I'll just wait until after Christmas, talk to her and ask her if she'd go in with me to switch it for the phone I wanted. We are leaving for vacation Wed so she doesn't need any added stress.

I was going to just suck it up and give apple a shot. But like you said, the investment is real, and I use it for everything. I am unfortunately tied to my phone.

 

[Benp]

So now let's do that without hurting her feelings about not liking her gift. I think I'll just wait until after Christmas, talk to her and ask her if she'd go in with me to switch it for the phone I wanted. We are leaving for vacation Wed so she doesn't need any added stress.

I was going to just suck it up and give apple a shot. But like you said, the investment is real, and I use it for everything. I am unfortunately tied to my phone.

That's a good move. Your appreciative and grateful, love the thought - would rather have a different phone. After getting the phone you want then take her out for a nice dinner.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Is the blue the $1500 Shadow 2?

It is... well, 1400 + change thru gun genie...
Tough to swallow, but I do not own any SA/DA steel guns and I felt it worthwhile having not purchased a handgun in at least 4 years

 

[MindfulMan]

That's a good move. Your appreciative and grateful, love the thought - would rather have a different phone. After getting the phone you want then take her out for a nice dinner.

Brilliant !

 

[RobbyMaQ]

That's really nice Robby.

Hell yeah it is.
A little hard getting used to the slide being 'inset' with my long skinny fingers compared to the slides on my striker-fired M&P, etc handguns, but wow... so heavy and the trigger is so smooth and breaks so crisp.
3 mags help too