Texas just threw down the gauntlet.

[Shadow01]

Not for me. A civil war doesn’t go good for anybody. Even the winners suffer. Having seen the results of war, I don’t want it if it can be avoided. Look around the world where there is civil war, or have been, and truthfully say you want that. Peaceful is my first preference. I do agree however that some things are worth a fight.

We can avoid it by backing off and letting joe have his way. Heck, we can avoid every disagreement with the dems by just giving in and let them make us into their vision of the future. I guess we could slow walk one step right and 2 steps left for the next 50 years and pat each other on the back and say “it a communist **** hole, but we did avoid a possible civil war”…

 

[Shadow01]

He didnt say that.

This will take a conservative supermajority to shove it down their throats.

EDIT: and SCOTUS to not be buttheads and keep it in place.

Oh do we get that after the next election or are we going to make more excuses because we have another slim majority?

 

[Kdf101]

We can avoid it by backing off and letting joe have his way. Heck, we can avoid every disagreement with the dems by just giving in and let them make us into their vision of the future. I guess we could slow walk one step right and 2 steps left for the next 50 years and pat each other on the back and say “it a communist **** hole, but we did avoid a possible civil war”…

I didn’t say anything even close to that. What I said was, I am not excited about the prospect of violence. I said I would much prefer a peaceful solution. I also said that some things were worth a fight, I just would rather peace prevail. Cheerleading a violent confrontation, hoping for it, is madness. If that were to happen, literally everything we have and know would change. Economy collapse, jobs lost, shortages of everything, etc. Covid, supply chain issues, recessions, etc would all pale in comparison. I still would rather see a peaceful resolution.

 

[Shadow01]

I didn’t say anything even close to that. What I said was, I am not excited about the prospect of violence. I said I would much prefer a peaceful solution. I also said that some things were worth a fight, I just would rather peace prevail. Cheerleading a violent confrontation, hoping for it, is madness. If that were to happen, literally everything we have and know would change. Economy collapse, jobs lost, shortages of everything, etc. Covid, supply chain issues, recessions, etc would all pale in comparison. I still would rather see a peaceful resolution.

Do you believe there will be a peaceful solution with the dems that you can live with? Would that include letting them have what they want. Do you believe they will give us what we want as a compromise? I don’t have that faith. I believe a dem will always give a dollar as long as he is getting ten in return. I don’t believe he will ever give more than he is getting regardless of the consequences.

 

[Kdf101]

Do you believe there will be a peaceful solution with the dems that you can live with? Would that include letting them have what they want. Do you believe they will give us what we want as a compromise? I don’t have that faith. I believe a dem will always give a dollar as long as he is getting ten in return. I don’t believe he will ever give more than he is getting regardless of the consequences.

On this very narrow topic of border security, which is what the situation in Texas is all about, yes I do believe a peaceful solution is possible. There are a lot of rank and file Dems that think border security is important too. How likely is it? I dont know. What I do know is I will never hope for and look forward to armed confrontation of any kind. Sometimes it is unavoidable, but I will never cheer it on, because I am fairly confident that I know what that might mean and none of us want that.

 

[red_zr24x4]

I don't think anyone wants it, but we're all making plans in our minds on what we will do / need /and where we'll go if needed

 

[Kdf101]

This is a good thing. You just know some leftist orgs will probably try to incite violence, and I can already hear the MS press talking about racists in the convoy.

Texas-bound 'Take Our Border Back' convoy to 'shed light' on migrant crisis, 'send a message' to leaders

The "Take Our Border Back" truck convoy is hoping to shed a light on the "wide open" southern border and call for immediate action from the Biden administration.

www.foxnews.com

 

[indyblue]

I thought I read something earlier today about a Biden/Congress bill outlawing the protest convoys here and don't know where I saw it now. All I can find is this article about a court ruling against Trudeau's use of terror law against truckers.

Trudeau's Use of Terror Law Against Freedom Convoy Ruled Unconstitutional

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's use of a counter-terrorism law to shut down the Freedom Convoy has been ruled unconstitutional.

www.breitbart.com

The triggering of the Emergencies Act by Trudeau — reportedly at the urging of the Biden administration in the United States — allowed the government to arrest the leaders of the Freedom Convoy, freeze bank accounts of protesters, and seize donations intended for the protest.

The Act states that, for the government to declare a public emergency, there must be “threats to the security of Canada that are so serious as to be a national emergency.” The law defers to the definition of a threat from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, which lists espionage, serious violence, foreign interference, or intent to overthrow the government as examples that would meet the threshold.

In his ruling, Judge Mosley said:

I have concluded that the decision to issue the Proclamation does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness – justification, transparency and intelligibility – and was not justified in relation to the relevant factual and legal constraints that were required to be taken into consideration.

“The potential for serious violence, or being unable to say that there was no potential for serious violence was, of course, a valid reason for concern,” he added. “But in my view, it did not satisfy the test required to invoke the Act.”

EDIT: found it! But it's about designating Truckers insurrectionists

Report: Feds Plan to Make Trucker Convoy Another "Insurrection"

Lara Logan wrote on X that the truckers should be very concerned. “Be aware - numerous sources indicate the federal govt...

www.independentsentinel.com

Lara Logan wrote on X that the truckers should be very concerned. “Be aware – numerous sources indicate the federal govt is planning to try make this another fake “insurrection” and go after people in the convoy the same way they targeted people for exercising their constitutional rights on January 6th.. They are already tracing and tracking people through their phones, iPads etc.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Anything Biden tries to pass will get shot down.

The reason America's Hat(tm) was able to do what they did to those truckers is they are subjects not citizens, and therefore have no 1st amendment rights.

 

[d.kaufman]

Anything Biden tries to pass will get shot down.

Wish I could share your enthusiasm.

I'm not.....

 

[ljk]

Abbot should send buses to ACB's home.

 

[Longhair]

Our school system is always asking for more tax dollars and this seems to be a good reason to vote no.
They waste so much money, heck we have school buses with chrome wheels.

Coming to Bartholomew County: Hundreds of unaccompanied migrant children released to area sponsors - The Republic News

Hundreds of children traveling alone who were picked up at the Mexican border by U.S. immigration authorities have been sent to live with “sponsors” in Bartholomew County and the surrounding area in recent years, federal records show.

www.therepublic.com

 

[Twangbanger]

Our school system is always asking for more tax dollars and this seems to be a good reason to vote no.
They waste so much money, heck we have school buses with chrome wheels.

Coming to Bartholomew County: Hundreds of unaccompanied migrant children released to area sponsors - The Republic News

Hundreds of children traveling alone who were picked up at the Mexican border by U.S. immigration authorities have been sent to live with “sponsors” in Bartholomew County and the surrounding area in recent years, federal records show.

www.therepublic.com

"Bartholomew County"...lol.

 

[JCSR]

The FBI has one more day to plant the pipe bombs...

MAGA truck convoy called 'Army of God' heads to southern border

A new video reveals a huge MAGA truck convoy called 'Army of God' heading toward the southern border as experts ring the alarms over the border crisis.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[rbhargan]

The Bee generally runs a few weeks/months ahead of the news cycle, so this seems a prescient article.

10 Easy Ways To Prepare For The Next Civil War

With open warfare on every suburban American street imminent, you may find yourself wondering what you can do to best prepare yourself and your family for the coming hellacious experience of war.

babylonbee.com

 

[Alamo]

 

[Shadow01]

On this very narrow topic of border security, which is what the situation in Texas is all about, yes I do believe a peaceful solution is possible. There are a lot of rank and file Dems that think border security is important too. How likely is it? I dont know. What I do know is I will never hope for and look forward to armed confrontation of any kind. Sometimes it is unavoidable, but I will never cheer it on, because I am fairly confident that I know what that might mean and none of us want that.

I can’t say that I cheer it on, but as we have walked this road with loss after loss to the communists, I will take conflict over another give away to the left. I believe it’s time to give nothing and take what they are afraid to offer .

 

[DadSmith]

Mexico ‘increasingly concerned that they’re getting invaded’ by world’s immigrants: McCaul - Washington Examiner

The Mexican government views the crisis affecting its border with the United States as an invasion of its own southern boundary, according to a senior U.S. lawmaker. House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) led a bipartisan congressional delegation to Mexico City this week and told...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[manifest destiny]

The war is afoot. Interpretations lag. Behaviours follow. Results tbd.

I don't trust Abbott. We might be looking at the start of Abbaott 2028 campaign. I mean, really, why now Mr. Abbott? Why is he not in Texas? Heck, maybe we're looking at a Trump/Abbott ticket. I don't really know, but the situation is tenuous, dangerous and fraught with danger regardless of one's politics.

The posibility for political resolution, for both Texas and greater America, resides in States flexing their constitutional muscle. Individually we're insurrectionists, collectively we're a movement by the people for the people. Weird times. I hope sanity prevails.

 

[Twangbanger]

Mexico ‘increasingly concerned that they’re getting invaded’ by world’s immigrants: McCaul - Washington Examiner

The Mexican government views the crisis affecting its border with the United States as an invasion of its own southern boundary, according to a senior U.S. lawmaker. House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) led a bipartisan congressional delegation to Mexico City this week and told...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

The "asylum con" is a vulnerability built into our system, and when Obama announced the "20 day and proceed" policy, he exposed the soft underbelly of America to the world.

America's sucking in the teeming refuse of the Earth, and Mexico is the straw. It must really suck to be a Mexican citizen, living inside a trade route for cartels.