Taqueria robber shot dead by patron. video /bad shoot?

[bobzilla]

So if he didn't shoot, the bad guy was pulling another gun with his other hand we don't see and shot the good guy that's ok because he didn't shoot him in the head. Got it.

 

[Sigblitz]

Yes if he saw him reaching for another gun, defending himself from a known threat.

 

[bobzilla]

Yes if he saw him reaching for another gun, defending himself from a known threat.

But execution.

 

[Sigblitz]

But execution.

Would be no threat at all, if he saw still alive anyway

 

[Sigblitz]

Well lookee here. He decided to talk to the cops.

Taco shop customer who shot and killed possible armed robber agrees to meet with HPD investigators, officials say

An investigation is ongoing after a customer shot and killed a robbery suspect inside a taco shop in southwest Houston late Thursday, police said.

www.click2houston.com

Grand jury was mentioned here. He didn't say there is one for this case specifically to hash this out.

This should insulation the politician, I mean prosecutor, from any push back.

 

[Mgderf]

l would not convict. Everything that happened was a direct result of the criminal's decision to commit armed robbery. Put people in mortal fear, and adrenaline is a bitch.

One of my favorite quotes, from 1DCA (FL, not TX), in Stinson v State: "That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook."

"Don't let your alligator mouth overload your tadpole ass".
Just one of my dad's favorite witticisms.
Miss you dad.

 

[EPeter213]

If I recall correctly, a grand jury is required for all situations like this in Texas. Pretty sure I saw it mentioned in one or more of the other Texas shooting discussions

 

[nra4ever]

Yes it happened. Luckily he did get a lawyer.

Hero Customer Who Shot Armed Robber at Houston Taco Joint Ordered to Face Grand Jury by Soros-Funded D.A.

The hero customer who shot and killed an armed robber at a Houston taco joint last week has been ordered to face a grand jury by District Attorney Kim Ogg, the Soros-funded

www.informationliberation.com

 

[jedi]

Info on the criminal.
10 years prior he robbed a cellstore and killed the shop owner. In front of the owners wife and sons.

He was convicted of a lower crime and sent to jail but only servered 1/2 the sentencd before being released.

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[Ziggidy]

On Monday, the medical examiner identified Eric Eugene Washington as the robbery suspect who was shot and killed.

Records show Washington had an extensive criminal history and was out on bond at the time of the robbery.

Washington was sentenced to 15 years in prison in 2015 for an aggravated robbery, which was pleaded down from capital murder for the 2013 robbery and murder of 62-year-old Hamid Waraich, records show.

He was released on parole in 2021 and charged with assaulting his girlfriend in 2022, according to records.

Officers with the Houston Police Department told Eyewitness News that an attorney, who is making arrangements for the customer who opened fire, has reached out to speak with investigators.

The 46-year-old customer's name hasn't been released because he's not under arrest, police said.
University of Houston Law Center Professor Sandra Guerra Thompson said the District Attorney has several options when considering this case.

"They can take no action.
They can go to the grand jury and ask them for no indictment.
They could go to the grand jury and say, we're going to leave this up to you, or they could ask for a charge,"
Thompson said.

Grand jury will decide fate of customer who shot and killed robber at taqueria, HPD says

Now a jury of the customer’s peers will decide if he will have to contend with any criminal charges.

“Today (Jan. 9), the male, 46, was questioned by Houston police homicide detectives,” police said. “After consulting with the Harris County District Attorney’s Office, it was determined the shooting will be referred to a grand jury. Since the male is not arrested or charged, his identity is not being released.”

Man Who Shot Robber in Restaurant Will Face Grand Jury: Police

Police in Houston, Texas, say a grand jury will decide if a man who shot and killed a robber at a local restaurant should face criminal charges.

lawandcrime.com

 

[bobzilla]

Info on the criminal.
10 years prior he robbed a cellstore and killed the shop owner. In front of the owners wife and sons.

He was convicted of a lower crime and sent to jail but only servered 1/2 the sentencd before being released.

TikTok - Make Your Day

Shocked I tell ya. Shocked.

If I have to add purple you’re not paying attention

 

[chipbennett]

Well lookee here. He decided to talk to the cops.

Taco shop customer who shot and killed possible armed robber agrees to meet with HPD investigators, officials say

An investigation is ongoing after a customer shot and killed a robbery suspect inside a taco shop in southwest Houston late Thursday, police said.

www.click2houston.com

Through an attorney. Smart.

 

[chipbennett]

So apparently his conversation with the police already happened earlier today?

Grand jury will consider case involving customer who fatally shot robber at SW Houston taco shop, police say

Houston police said on Monday that the case involving a customer who fatally shot a robbery suspect at a southwest Houston taco shop will be referred to a grand jury.

www.click2houston.com

A. Why send it to a Grand Jury at all?

B. FTA:

Who is the suspect?

Houston police identified the suspect as 30-year-old Eric Eugene Washington.

DPS and court documents reveal that Washington was out on bond at the time of the robbery for an assault of a family member charge from December. He was due back in court later this month.

In 2015, a jury sentenced Washington to serve 15 years in prison on a 2013 aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon charge, court documents show. Prosecutors initially charged him with capital murder in the 2013 case, but records show the jury instead convicted him of the lesser charge of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. Records show he got parole in early 2021.

“Will the grand jury care? Yes, because they will see that this man had a track record of being a stone-cold, card-carry, no doubt about it, aggravated robber,” Wice said.

 

[chipbennett]

Firing a shot after the robbers gun was picked up by the shooter, and then the shooter shoots again?

First 4 - I get it
Second 4 - I've never been in a situation that required using a gun
Last shot - overkill

Does this make the guy a criminal? I don't know.

I am wondering how this will be played, not only by the prosecution but the media's response to the final verdict. There is allot of great comments here. Looking forward to what happens next.

"Overkill" isn't a thing in the context of use of deadly force. Deadly force causes the target to go from "alive" to "dead". That use of force is either justified or unjustified.

This view will probably get me excluded from any deadly-force trial during voir dire.

 

[Sigblitz]

Yes it happened. Luckily he did get a lawyer.

Hero Customer Who Shot Armed Robber at Houston Taco Joint Ordered to Face Grand Jury by Soros-Funded D.A.

The hero customer who shot and killed an armed robber at a Houston taco joint last week has been ordered to face a grand jury by District Attorney Kim Ogg, the Soros-funded

www.informationliberation.com

They got Soros and BLM into the article. Maybe the DA is anti gun.

Just to keep the facts straight, which is in no way giving any credit to the robber, just what I'm reading reported, he was arrested in connection with a murder. Pulled the trigger? I don't know but irrelevant. Just personally keeping my fact and opinion pile separate, but still irrelevant.
Irrelevant to any outcome here, not irrelevant to the family that lost a loved one.

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[BE Mike]

Alright I will admit I do not know what it takes to become a police officer if what you’re saying is true for most departments then I think that is extremely irresponsible to put a poorly trained individual into highly stressful and dangerous situations. I mean to become a plumber is like a 3 year apprenticeship and you just get a torch.

It seems to me that the requirements to become a plumber are heavily influenced by unions. I have my doubts that it really takes three years for a person, with the necessary intelligence and aptitude, to be an apprentice for 3 years to be proficient in the trade. A plumber who makes an error, may have to make amends by re-doing a project and/ or reimbursing a customer financially. Generally, nobody makes a video of their work and puts it on social media to be scrutinized long after the project is completed. Police work isn't all about shooting incidents, and although armed encounters aren't rare, actual incidents, when a police officer has to fire his/ her weapon on duty, are. Being injured on the job (not due to a weapon) isn't uncommon during one's career, either. A police officer who is perceived as making an error, not only puts his/ her career on the line, he/ she may well be held to account criminally. Roughly, in Indiana, a plumber earns 44k-83k per annum. A police officer 56k-65k. Basically, it is comparing apples and oranges.

 

[KittySlayer]

Through an attorney. Smart.

Almost like he had read advice on INGO about keeping his mouth shut.

It is not like he was going to be hard to find with that distinctive truck.

 

[KittySlayer]

How much money did Eugene think he would get in a Taco place? Then he had to make the decision to risk his life for that small amount. Right up there with the risk/reward decision making process as Honey Bunny and Pumpkin.

 

[BE Mike]

Well lookee here. He decided to talk to the cops.

Taco shop customer who shot and killed possible armed robber agrees to meet with HPD investigators, officials say

An investigation is ongoing after a customer shot and killed a robbery suspect inside a taco shop in southwest Houston late Thursday, police said.

www.click2houston.com

Yep, through a lawyer. Lawyers generally don't work for free.

 

[KittySlayer]

Yep, through a lawyer. Lawyers generally don't work for free.

Ammo is the cheapest part of a self defense shooting.

This approach of lawyering up is the cheap part of pulling the trigger. If shooter hung around to chat with the police at the taco place the cost of a lawyer trying to undo his statements at trial would cost a lot more.

Preventive maintenance like changing your oil vs. rebuilding the engine after it seized up.