Taiwan vs. China Watch Thread

[smokingman]

This one sounds pretty weak, even for Zero Hedge.



Read as: Taiwan reeally wants a nuclear deterrent against invasion. PLEASE Uncle Sam, won't you protect us like S. Korea & Japan?

Of course they're in talks. Like they have been for decades.
There's no chance in hell we would make such a commitment and poke that dragon in the eye.

Sky news(Canadian and Australian mainstream).

Taiwan could soon be under US nuclear protection

Taiwan's Foreign Minister has suggested he is in talks with Washington to have the US cover the country with its so-called 'nuclear umbrella'. Analysts warn the agreement could be globally catastrophic as it would mean the US could use nuclear weapons if Taiwan was attacked.

www.skynews.com.au

IBT(leftist business news,hq in New York).

US-Taiwan Nuclear Umbrella A Signal To China That Invasion Could 'Escalate To Nuclear Level'

Analysts believe Taiwan would benefit from joining the U.S. nuclear umbrella despite the grim possibility of a nuclear war with China.

www.ibtimes.com

And ZH source is https://www.firstpost.com/world/tai...korea-to-deter-chinese-invasion-12649852.html (A company owned by Forbes and NBC).

 

[rosejm]

Sky news(Canadian and Australian mainstream).

Taiwan could soon be under US nuclear protection

Taiwan's Foreign Minister has suggested he is in talks with Washington to have the US cover the country with its so-called 'nuclear umbrella'. Analysts warn the agreement could be globally catastrophic as it would mean the US could use nuclear weapons if Taiwan was attacked.

www.skynews.com.au

IBT(leftist business news,hq in New York).

US-Taiwan Nuclear Umbrella A Signal To China That Invasion Could 'Escalate To Nuclear Level'

Analysts believe Taiwan would benefit from joining the U.S. nuclear umbrella despite the grim possibility of a nuclear war with China.

www.ibtimes.com

And ZH source is https://www.firstpost.com/world/tai...korea-to-deter-chinese-invasion-12649852.html (A company owned by Forbes and NBC).

And they're all saying the same thing: Taiwanese Foreign Minister claims to be "in talks", with no further details about the claim or those "talks". It's almost as if the quote is the only verifiable piece of information.

I fully believe Wu did make that claim. I would expect it's a matter of public record.
However, just because there are multiple sources quoting his claim doesn't make it any more believable.

 

[DadSmith]

USINDOPACOM Statement on Unsafe Maritime Interaction

In accordance with international law, USS Chung-Hoon (DDG 93) and HMCS Montreal (FFH 336) conducted a routine south to north Taiwan Strait transit June 3 through waters where high seas freedoms of

www.pacom.mil

 

[Bennettjh]

The US Is Preparing Evacuation Plans for American Citizens in Taiwan (Exclusive)

Wars in Ukraine and Afghanistan hang over planning for worst-case scenarios

themessenger.com

 

[printcraft]

The US Is Preparing Evacuation Plans for American Citizens in Taiwan (Exclusive)

Wars in Ukraine and Afghanistan hang over planning for worst-case scenarios

themessenger.com

Evacuating Americans – a fraught history ​

U.S. policy states that the government may assist with an evacuation of American citizens under the right conditions, but it doesn’t guarantee such support. The Biden administration has come under fire for not providing enough help to Americans – most recently in Sudan, where heavy fighting erupted in April. The U.S. initially said it would not conduct an evacuation because few people had requested one; later, the government reversed its position and arranged several convoys out of Khartoum.

In the case of Afghanistan, hundreds of Americans and tens of thousands of Afghans who worked for the U.S. were left behind in the frenetic and dangerous last days of the evacuation from Kabul. That experience likely weighs heavily on the minds of U.S. officials working on plans for Taiwan, Cancian said.

“The tension is that the U.S. government wouldn’t want to pull personnel out too soon because that would signal lack of confidence,” he said. “But they wouldn’t want to wait too late because then they wouldn’t be able to get everyone out.”

Sounds like the plans will probably amount to:

 

[DadSmith]

US not ready for bloody war with China, say war games.

States needs to invest in more amphibious assault vehicles and training to prepare for a potential conflict in the South China Sea. This was highlighted during a recent exercise with US Marines and th

www.conservativenewsdaily.net

 

[Route 45]

Blinken says US 'does not support Taiwan independence' during China visit

Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Monday that the U.S. does "not support" Taiwanese independence after a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

www.foxnews.com

 

[printcraft]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...p&cvid=60504fa4662243bdbbe4c7cb4a31fca3&ei=13

Blinken says spy balloon 'chapter should be closed' after talks with China​

Looks like those biden bribes paid off for winnie the pooh (poo?)

 

[smokingman]

Gaetz Wants Authorization To Take Out 'Chinese Assets' In Cuba | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

zerohedge.com

 

[BugI02]

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."

 

[Route 45]

The US wants to turn the B-1B Lancer bomber into a killer of Chinese aircraft carriers by arming the supersonic aircraft with 36 LRASM anti-ship missiles with a launch range of more than 900 kilometres

The US Air Force wants to turn the B-1B Lancer supersonic strategic bombers into aircraft carrier killers for the Chinese navy. To do this, experts want to add anti-ship missiles to the aircraft.

gagadget.com

 

[DadSmith]

Japan scrambles jets to monitor Chinese bombers near Okinawa, drone near Taiwan

Japan's defence ministry on Friday said it scrambled jet fighters to monitor Chinese air force bombers and drones flying near the country's southwestern Okinawa island and Taiwan.

www.reuters.com

 

[DadSmith]

North Korea simulates nuclear strikes on South Korea. | Conservative News Daily™

North Korea conducted two missile tests, simulating nuclear strikes on South Korea. The regime's military wing fired two tactical ballistic missiles on Aug. 30, while state media claimed they also rehearsed an occupation of South Korea, referring to the launches as "scorched earth" nuclear strikes.

www.conservativenewsdaily.net

I'm putting this here because I think all of this ties together if war breaks out it will be all over Asia.

 

[smokingman]

US military shocked: China flew hypersonic nuke capable missile around the globe; 'We have no idea how they did this': report

In August, China tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile that flew around the earth before hitting its target, a new report first revealed Saturday.

americanmilitarynews.com

 

[Route 45]

US renews warning it will defend Philippines after incidents with Chinese vessels in South China Sea

The United States renewed a warning Monday that it would defend the Philippines in case of an armed attack under a 1951 treaty, after Chinese ships blocked and collided with two Filipino vessels off a contested shoal in the South China Sea. Philippine diplomats summoned a Chinese Embassy...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Leadeye]

The US wants to turn the B-1B Lancer bomber into a killer of Chinese aircraft carriers by arming the supersonic aircraft with 36 LRASM anti-ship missiles with a launch range of more than 900 kilometres

The US Air Force wants to turn the B-1B Lancer supersonic strategic bombers into aircraft carrier killers for the Chinese navy. To do this, experts want to add anti-ship missiles to the aircraft.

gagadget.com

Sounds like what the USSR did with the Tu 22 Backfire years ago.

 

[Leadeye]

US military shocked: China flew hypersonic nuke capable missile around the globe; 'We have no idea how they did this': report

In August, China tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile that flew around the earth before hitting its target, a new report first revealed Saturday.

americanmilitarynews.com

24 miles off target? That's a lot even for a nuc.

 

[smokingman]

How to enter the room as loudly as possible, and get the immediate attention of China?

Foxconn Shares Plunge 10% On Tax Probe As Founder Runs For Taiwan Presidency | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Backed of course in his run by USAID(democracy support for elections in Taiwan,and your tax dollars. *wink) and a pile of US and EU NGO's.

 

[Hawkeye]

24 miles off target? That's a lot even for a nuc.

So, its an ICBM? Not really news.

 

[smokingman]

24 miles off target? That's a lot even for a nuc.

Depends on how big a nuke. The tzar bomb leveled wooden structures in a 34 mile radius. 62 miles away the heat was still enough to cause instant 3rd degree burns. It broke windows out as far as 520 miles away. The shock wave in the air traveled around the earth 3 times.

Yes,many smaller more accurate nukes would be more effective militarily, but the impact of a single large nuke could be much more psychologically damaging to your enemy.

The Pentagon’s 2022 report to Congress estimated that by 2030 China’s nuclear stockpile “will have about 1,000 operational nuclear warheads, most of which will be fielded on systems capable of ranging the continental United States” (US Department of Defense 2022a, 97).