So she made it up?

[phylodog]

Haven't we had 4 years of this already?

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Are we not entitled to enjoy the entertainment?

 

[JeepHammer]

This is irrelevant. We’re talking about AOC. If you want to talk about Trump, make your own thread.

OK, AOC is victim of far left crap, but at least she's not a white supremacist, NAZI, Qanon, or any of the other far right crazy that's advocating rape, murder, war, government overthrow, concentration camps, wiping out the older folks & people of color by not doing anything about COVID, etc.

Good to have someone *Slightly Off* rather than ego maniacs promoting mass murder.

The premise of the thread has been disproven, it's a lie.
She was in the capitol building during the terrorist invasion.

How does that work with the idea she was lying?
Makes the poster another false source of 'Information' at the very least,
But more like a bold faced liar...

 

[jamil]

The post was a troll, entirely fake since it pushed the idea AOC wasn't even at the capitol building, and she actually was at the capitol building.

Just more fake propaganda.

Since the purpose was to call out a fake claim of lying, false claims,
I simply posted the false claims/lies other politicians have cranked out.

As I've been saying for 40 years,
'Right' wing, 'Left' wing, same lying bird.
Taking sides keeps anyone from doing something about the actual problems, which is why the perpetrators keep cranking this crap out and keep us divided.

While the far 'Left' cranks on and on about ONLY people of color being murdered by police,
(Nearly as many colorless folks murdered while unarmed)

The 'Right' regularly endorsed myths that people of color, women, etc don't count, they are livestock and not people.

Then there are the completely insane...
The far, Far, FAR fringes.

When I hear all men are 'Rapists', responsible for everything bad since the big bang...
Or when I hear the Qanon crap,
I just want to install lie detecting shock collars to the people spouting this crap.

Since they are by definition insane, they won't stop cranking,
But it would be a crap load more entertaining watching them fry like bacon and roll around on the ground...

The person she was with claimed that AOC was in her office, which was in a different building, but part of the Capitol complex. That building wasn’t under attack. AOC was not in the danger she claimed, or anything close to it. No one tried to murder her. That claim is baseless propaganda. A lie.

 

[jwamplerusa]

This thread is about AOC lying about almost being murdered. It has nothing to do with sexual assault.

The division is wide because one side refuses to accept lies and the other embraces them. When the truth begins to hold value to everyone we will see the country come together. As long as one side continues to use lies and misinformation to bring about change it is going to continue to be a divided nation.

Phylodog is spot on. There are fundamental differences primarily caused by the effectiveness of communist propaganda upon a segment of our society. From the 1950s till today this nation's enemies have sought to undermine a country who wielded increasing power. This nation's danger to them was not one of conquest, but rather one of ideas. The concepts of individual liberty, responsibility, opportunity to pursue an individual's passion and desire is a danger to all forms of government which are based upon totalitarian, authoritarian, control, and collectivisation.

While our enemies had success in their propaganda efforts they lost the war with the collapse of the Soviet Union. This nation however failed to recognize that the failure of the Soviet Union did not magically make those state organs focused on destroying the United States go away. They simply found new masters and new sources of money.

Of late I have often thought back to Ronald Reagan and the "open mic" incident wherein he said something along the lines of we start bombing in 5 minutes directed at the then Soviet Union. Reagan and many of his inner circle understood the danger of the Soviet Union and communism. He was willing to actually try to win. Yes he fed the military industrial complex, but he also understood that communism wherever it existed represented a continuing and existential threat to liberty. Any nation which existed under communist ideology was a threat to this nation and needed to be turned toward liberty and rule of law.

Unfortunately while the United States did win some battles, we failed to recognize the risks and dangers that some of our own technology represented. The internet and the rise of social media were fertile grounds for the propagandist. Bits do not recognize national borders. Our enemies efforts and success in our educational systems, Hollywood, and mainstream media were an excellent foundation for their jumping off point in the utilization of social media. Our children were quickly turned against the most foundational of this nation's ideals in a matter of a few years.

The divisions we see today are those sown by this nation's enemies, and all too happily promoted by organizations which were only able to come into existence because they were founded in the United States.

Today, the risk is there are not enough American citizens who actually know and understand our founding documents and the ideals behind them to keep a functional democratic republic based upon the ideals of individual liberty and opportunity alive. We have become balkanized to the point where the portion of our population who can read the Constitution in the context of the contemporaneous documents, recognize and believe in the ideals represented, and act to keep them alive are rapidly becoming a minority.

Reviewing the Communist Party's (I now refer to the Democratic Party as the Communist Party, they do not deserve the cover of another name) platform it is obvious that one of our parties believe in an authoritarian regime of collectivization. When you strip out the meaningless language, and all of the TDS, you are left with policies which are collectivist, redistributionist, and to be charitable totalitarian. It is the party of "we know what is best for you". A position which is quite literally antithetical to the most foundational principles of this republic. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

I read an article in the New York Post this morning regarding a father's issues with the way his children were being taught in the New York City school system. It was disturbing. What was described was abject propaganda against the very nation where the school and the teachers live. These behaviors are not an aberration. They are the result of decades of manipulation and propaganda operating almost unchecked in our educational system and entertainment industry.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://nypost.com/2021/01/30/dad-says-nyc-doe-public-schools-are-brainwashing-kids/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjd2-rK4NDuAhVpQzABHTDnBE0QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1MAPgZ-H9WEMlz4n2d7I84&ampcf=1

Can our division be checked, or better yet reversed? Frankly in the absence of events that I don't even want to consider I do not believe so. In all probability our future is that of Venezuela. Any change in trajectory would require an almost Pearl harbor like moment to draw the American people together again. Frankly I don't believe our enemies are that stupid, because they're winning anyway.

Could we reach a new direction without violence? I don't see how so long as our media both new and old are aligned with this nation's enemies domestic and foreign. It would require a concerted effort to re-educate and reinvigorate all of our citizens knowledge of this nation's founding, and its foundational documents.

Unfortunately, outside of this forum and those like it, I find few of my fellow Americans who can remember when they last read the Constitution. I find fewer still who actually read all of it, and have any clue as to what all of the Bill of Rights conveys or what the preamble to the Bill of Rights says. I can count on my hands the number of people I have met who have read any contemporaneous works, even to the point of having skimmed them. (And I am no scholar of the Constitution)

In the absence of even the most basic understanding of our nation's founding principles there's little hope of the nation continuing on that basis. This then is the fundamental problem nearly half, maybe more, of our nation's citizens have no clue what we are. They are consumed by identity politics and emotional reactions. They view the Constitution as an anachronism that needs to be " reinterpreted ".

The other roughly half of our nation's citizens, do believe in the Constitution as it was written and understand it at least conceptually on the basis of its contemporaneous documents. We recognize that the nation has grown up and that phrases like all men are created equal, now mean just that and also apply to females (or whatever other gender you happen to think you are).

And so very much Phylodog's point is true. when a portion of a society chooses to believe things which are objectively lies about our nation, its founding documents and ideals, and have a fluid concept of truth there really is no way to come together.

I had sincere hopes in the first two years of President Trump's term that our nation would change direction. Legislators from both sides of the aisle had the opportunity to work with someone who was objectively an America first leader. I'm not going to pretend that I trusted his understanding of the Constitution but he was better than many we had had since Reagan in that regard. There was an opportunity to encourage national service, universal firearms safety and marksmanship training, enforcement of the Bill of Rights across all states, and a host of other opportunities which were squandered. Our legislators failed the nation and their constituents, regardless of which party they allied themselves too. Instead we were treated to two years of dawdling and misdirection, followed by a 2-year assault upon the president of the United States via an abusive investigation based upon lies.

Now we find ourselves worse off in regards to unity, and adherence to this nation's values than we were at any time in my memory. If we are lucky, we will be treated to a rerun of the Jimmy Carter administration with increasing inflation, stagflation, a rapidly declining economy, high unemployment, and a further erosion of confidence in the United States by other nations along with a gutted military.

This nation's enemies are elated. Those enemies, China Russia North Korea and all others who wish to see a weekend United States, applaud the actions of the communist party, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and all the rest. Their well taught useful idiots, groomed in our nation's universities and by our mainstream media outlets, have acted just as they were trained. Right down to violence in the streets, burning looting and murdering while wearing their communist and socialist slogans. I am sure our enemies are quite impressed with their success.

Many of our citizens should go look in a mirror and ask themselves what nation they stand for. Unfortunately when you don't know the foundational principles of a nation it is all too easy to convince yourself based solely upon the propaganda you have been fed but you stand for one, but not the one you're standing in.

And that is how a nation of free men disappears from this earth.

P.S. Costco back in the book section has a book with an American flag on the front with a selection of documents from this nation's history. While I find some of the chosen documents to be questionable many are spot on. It includes Ben Franklin's Dogood letters, Patrick Henry's speech to the Virginia Commons, the declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and a host of others. I highly encourage everyone to pick up a copy. I'm up to the Constitution, and I want to make sure I read it again slowly. When I'm done with it I'll leave it on one of my children's nightstand for the next time they're home. They won't read it, but at least maybe it will raise their curiosity.

 

[chipbennett]

Why is there so much Whataboutism going on in this thread? This thread is about AOC stepping in it, David Hogg-style.

 

[jamil]

OK, AOC is victim of far left crap, but at least she's not a white supremacist, NAZI, Qanon, or any of the other far right crazy that's advocating rape, murder, war, government overthrow, concentration camps, wiping out the older folks & people of color by not doing anything about COVID, etc.

A victim of the far left? Oh, think you are quite mistaken. She is a full fledged member in good standing of the far left.

As for the rest, when you start out with, at least [my side]..., you are dismissing legitimate criticisms of someone on your side because you think the other side is worse. You’re essentially implying that the other side’s misdeeds justified you side’s misdeeds. That’s not a defense. It’s a dodge. Probably should knock that off.

 

[printcraft]

 

[jamil]

Phylodog is spot on. There are fundamental differences primarily caused by the effectiveness of communist propaganda upon a segment of our society. From the 1950s till today this nation's enemies have sought to undermine a country who wielded increasing power. This nation's danger to them was not one of conquest, but rather one of ideas. The concepts of individual liberty, responsibility, opportunity to pursue an individual's passion and desire is a danger to all forms of government which are based upon totalitarian, authoritarian, control, and collectivisation.

While our enemies had success in their propaganda efforts they lost the war with the collapse of the Soviet Union. This nation however failed to recognize that the failure of the Soviet Union did not magically make those state organs focused on destroying the United States go away. They simply found new masters and new sources of money.

Of late I have often thought back to Ronald Reagan and the "open mic" incident wherein he said something along the lines of we start bombing in 5 minutes directed at the then Soviet Union. Reagan and many of his inner circle understood the danger of the Soviet Union and communism. He was willing to actually try to win. Yes he fed the military industrial complex, but he also understood that communism wherever it existed represented a continuing and existential threat to liberty. Any nation which existed under communist ideology was a threat to this nation and needed to be turned toward liberty and rule of law.

Unfortunately while the United States did win some battles, we failed to recognize the risks and dangers that some of our own technology represented. The internet and the rise of social media were fertile grounds for the propagandist. Bits do not recognize national borders. Our enemies efforts and success in our educational systems, Hollywood, and mainstream media were an excellent foundation for their jumping off point in the utilization of social media. Our children were quickly turned against the most foundational of this nation's ideals in a matter of a few years.

The divisions we see today are those sown by this nation's enemies, and all too happily promoted by organizations which were only able to come into existence because they were founded in the United States.

Today, the risk is there are not enough American citizens who actually know and understand our founding documents and the ideals behind them to keep a functional democratic republic based upon the ideals of individual liberty and opportunity alive. We have become balkanized to the point where the portion of our population who can read the Constitution in the context of the contemporaneous documents, recognize and believe in the ideals represented, and act to keep them alive are rapidly becoming a minority.

Reviewing the Communist Party's (I now refer to the Democratic Party as the Communist Party, they do not deserve the cover of another name) platform it is obvious that one of our parties believe in an authoritarian regime of collectivization. When you strip out the meaningless language, and all of the TDS, you are left with policies which are collectivist, redistributionist, and to be charitable totalitarian. It is the party of "we know what is best for you". A position which is quite literally antithetical to the most foundational principles of this republic. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

I read an article in the New York Post this morning regarding a father's issues with the way his children were being taught in the New York City school system. It was disturbing. What was described was abject propaganda against the very nation where the school and the teachers live. These behaviors are not an aberration. They are the result of decades of manipulation and propaganda operating almost unchecked in our educational system and entertainment industry.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://nypost.com/2021/01/30/dad-says-nyc-doe-public-schools-are-brainwashing-kids/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjd2-rK4NDuAhVpQzABHTDnBE0QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1MAPgZ-H9WEMlz4n2d7I84&ampcf=1

Can our division be checked, or better yet reversed? Frankly in the absence of events that I don't even want to consider I do not believe so. In all probability our future is that of Venezuela. Any change in trajectory would require an almost Pearl harbor like moment to draw the American people together again. Frankly I don't believe our enemies are that stupid, because they're winning anyway.

Could we reach a new direction without violence? I don't see how so long as our media both new and old are aligned with this nation's enemies domestic and foreign. It would require a concerted effort to re-educate and reinvigorate all of our citizens knowledge of this nation's founding, and its foundational documents.

Unfortunately, outside of this forum and those like it, I find few of my fellow Americans who can remember when they last read the Constitution. I find fewer still who actually read all of it, and have any clue as to what all of the Bill of Rights conveys or what the preamble to the Bill of Rights says. I can count on my hands the number of people I have met who have read any contemporaneous works, even to the point of having skimmed them. (And I am no scholar of the Constitution)

In the absence of even the most basic understanding of our nation's founding principles there's little hope of the nation continuing on that basis. This then is the fundamental problem nearly half, maybe more, of our nation's citizens have no clue what we are. They are consumed by identity politics and emotional reactions. They view the Constitution as an anachronism that needs to be " reinterpreted ".

The other roughly half of our nation's citizens, do believe in the Constitution as it was written and understand it at least conceptually on the basis of its contemporaneous documents. We recognize that the nation has grown up and that phrases like all men are created equal, now mean just that and also apply to females (or whatever other gender you happen to think you are).

And so very much Phylodog's point is true. when a portion of a society chooses to believe things which are objectively lies about our nation, its founding documents and ideals, and have a fluid concept of truth there really is no way to come together.

I had sincere hopes in the first two years of President Trump's term that our nation would change direction. Legislators from both sides of the aisle had the opportunity to work with someone who was objectively an America first leader. I'm not going to pretend that I trusted his understanding of the Constitution but he was better than many we had had since Reagan in that regard. There was an opportunity to encourage national service, universal firearms safety and marksmanship training, enforcement of the Bill of Rights across all states, and a host of other opportunities which were squandered. Our legislators failed the nation and their constituents, regardless of which party they allied themselves too. Instead we were treated to two years of dawdling and misdirection, followed by a 2-year assault upon the president of the United States via an abusive investigation based upon lies.

Now we find ourselves worse off in regards to unity, and adherence to this nation's values than we were at any time in my memory. If we are lucky, we will be treated to a rerun of the Jimmy Carter administration with increasing inflation, stagflation, a rapidly declining economy, high unemployment, and a further erosion of confidence in the United States by other nations along with a gutted military.

This nation's enemies are elated. Those enemies, China Russia North Korea and all others who wish to see a weekend United States, applaud the actions of the communist party, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and all the rest. Their well taught useful idiots, groomed in our nation's universities and by our mainstream media outlets, have acted just as they were trained. Right down to violence in the streets, burning looting and murdering while wearing their communist and socialist slogans. I am sure our enemies are quite impressed with their success.

Many of our citizens should go look in a mirror and ask themselves what nation they stand for. Unfortunately when you don't know the foundational principles of a nation it is all too easy to convince yourself based solely upon the propaganda you have been fed but you stand for one, but not the one you're standing in.

And that is how a nation of free men disappears from this earth.

P.S. Costco back in the book section has a book with an American flag on the front with a selection of documents from this nation's history. While I find some of the chosen documents to be questionable many are spot on. It includes Ben Franklin's Dogood letters, Patrick Henry's speech to the Virginia Commons, the declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and a host of others. I highly encourage everyone to pick up a copy. I'm up to the Constitution, and I want to make sure I read it again slowly. When I'm done with it I'll leave it on one of my children's nightstand for the next time they're home. They won't read it, but at least maybe it will raise their curiosity.

Ironic as it is for me to say this, TL;DR. Imll have to come back and read this after work.

 

[OakRiver]

Why is there so much Whataboutism going on in this thread? This thread is about AOC stepping in it, David Hogg-style.

Because the CDC has focused on a cure for COVID-19, not TDS.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

The post was a troll, entirely fake since it pushed the idea AOC wasn't even at the capitol building, and she actually was at the capitol building.

Just more fake propaganda.

Except she wasn't at the capitol building, she was at a building (or two) in the capitol complex. Small but distinct difference.

As for the last line, I agree.

 

[JeepHammer]

Phylodog is spot on. There are fundamental differences primarily caused by the effectiveness of communist propaganda upon a segment of our society.

Besides off topic,
Patently false premise...

It's not the communists that social engineered since post WWII...
It's capatolism, and it started long before post WWII...

It wasn't communists spending billion of 1950 dollars social engineering people to consume...
Pre 1950 the US was a DURABLE GOODS market, saturated post WWII.

That's when the false 'CONSUMER ECONOMY', crap you 'Consumed' and had to constantly replace...
Millions, then Billions, then TRILLIONS of dollars thrown into advertising, getting you to consume crap...

At the same time, manufacturing moved away from local to conglomerate,
And that made profits flow up to the top 1%.

WAY MORE MONEY WAS SPENT ON ADVERTISING FOR 'CONSUMER GOOD' THAN PROMOTION OF COMMUNISM.

'Big Business' didn't like small manufacturing, so it's gone.
'Big Business' didn't like labor unions, so they are gone.
'Big Business' doesn't like the EPA, so every republican adminstration rolls it back so Big Business can pollute without restriction.
'Big Business' doesn't like law suits, so awards & judgments are capped.

The budget for 'Big Oil' attacking any form of renewable energy is subsidized by the US taxpayer, about $3 billion in 'Grants' to big oil, the most profitable business ever on the planet is getting taxpayer grants...

The Big Fossil Fuel claims of "War On Coal" is a prime example,
They blame wind, solar, hydro-electric,
When it's natural gas killing coal.
It's simply cheaper,
Transportation is a 24/7/365 uninterruptible supply, no trucks, trains, barges, ships required.
It's easier to get out of the ground, no mines, not nearly the employees required,
There is no waste material to haul off after it's burned,
And gas isn't as corrosive, hard on power plant equipment,
No 'Scrubbers' required to remove crap from burning process...

Keep on CONSUMING the propaganda,
Watch one had while the other hand does what it wants without notice...

In this country, you are 1,700 times more likely to be murdered by a white supremacist than a radical islam follower or communist...
I'm WAY more worried about 'Proud Boys', Qanon believer, mass shooter than a 'Communist'.

 

[phylodog]

I love a good banana split but have a really hard time passing up a good chocolate sunday.

Elves aren't real but if they were I don't believe they would be friendly.

Why can I hear one of my dogs when she farts but not the other one or any of the cats?

 

[JCSR]

Besides off topic,
Patently false premise...

It's not the communists that social engineered since post WWII...
It's capatolism, and it started long before post WWII...

It wasn't communists spending billion of 1950 dollars social engineering people to consume...
Pre 1950 the US was a DURABLE GOODS market, saturated post WWII.

That's when the false 'CONSUMER ECONOMY', crap you 'Consumed' and had to constantly replace...
Millions, then Billions, then TRILLIONS of dollars thrown into advertising, getting you to consume crap...

At the same time, manufacturing moved away from local to conglomerate,
And that made profits flow up to the top 1%.

WAY MORE MONEY WAS SPENT ON ADVERTISING FOR 'CONSUMER GOOD' THAN PROMOTION OF COMMUNISM.

'Big Business' didn't like small manufacturing, so it's gone.
'Big Business' didn't like labor unions, so they are gone.
'Big Business' doesn't like the EPA, so every republican adminstration rolls it back so Big Business can pollute without restriction.
'Big Business' doesn't like law suits, so awards & judgments are capped.

The budget for 'Big Oil' attacking any form of renewable energy is subsidized by the US taxpayer, about $3 billion in 'Grants' to big oil, the most profitable business ever on the planet is getting taxpayer grants...

The Big Fossil Fuel claims of "War On Coal" is a prime example,
They blame wind, solar, hydro-electric,
When it's natural gas killing coal.
It's simply cheaper,
Transportation is a 24/7/365 uninterruptible supply, no trucks, trains, barges, ships required.
It's easier to get out of the ground, no mines, not nearly the employees required,
There is no waste material to haul off after it's burned,
And gas isn't as corrosive, hard on power plant equipment,
No 'Scrubbers' required to remove crap from burning process...

Keep on CONSUMING the propaganda,
Watch one had while the other hand does what it wants without notice...

In this country, you are 1,700 times more likely to be murdered by a white supremacist than a radical islam follower or communist...
I'm WAY more worried about 'Proud Boys', Qanon believer, mass shooter than a 'Communist'.

 

[jason867]

I don't have anything intelligent to add to this conversation.

But phylodogs post reminded me of this:

Are we not entitled to enjoy the entertainment?

 

[phylodog]

Besides off topic,
Patently false premise...

It's not the communists that social engineered since post WWII...
It's capatolism, and it started long before post WWII...

It wasn't communists spending billion of 1950 dollars social engineering people to consume...
Pre 1950 the US was a DURABLE GOODS market, saturated post WWII.

That's when the false 'CONSUMER ECONOMY', crap you 'Consumed' and had to constantly replace...
Millions, then Billions, then TRILLIONS of dollars thrown into advertising, getting you to consume crap...

At the same time, manufacturing moved away from local to conglomerate,
And that made profits flow up to the top 1%.

WAY MORE MONEY WAS SPENT ON ADVERTISING FOR 'CONSUMER GOOD' THAN PROMOTION OF COMMUNISM.

'Big Business' didn't like small manufacturing, so it's gone.
'Big Business' didn't like labor unions, so they are gone.
'Big Business' doesn't like the EPA, so every republican adminstration rolls it back so Big Business can pollute without restriction.
'Big Business' doesn't like law suits, so awards & judgments are capped.

The budget for 'Big Oil' attacking any form of renewable energy is subsidized by the US taxpayer, about $3 billion in 'Grants' to big oil, the most profitable business ever on the planet is getting taxpayer grants...

The Big Fossil Fuel claims of "War On Coal" is a prime example,
They blame wind, solar, hydro-electric,
When it's natural gas killing coal.
It's simply cheaper,
Transportation is a 24/7/365 uninterruptible supply, no trucks, trains, barges, ships required.
It's easier to get out of the ground, no mines, not nearly the employees required,
There is no waste material to haul off after it's burned,
And gas isn't as corrosive, hard on power plant equipment,
No 'Scrubbers' required to remove crap from burning process...

Keep on CONSUMING the propaganda,
Watch one had while the other hand does what it wants without notice...

In this country, you are 1,700 times more likely to be murdered by a white supremacist than a radical islam follower or communist...
I'm WAY more worried about 'Proud Boys', Qanon believer, mass shooter than a 'Communist'.

The I hate America thread is somewhere else.

 

[printcraft]

Besides off topic,
Patently false premise...

It's not the communists that social engineered since post WWII...
It's capatolism, and it started long before post WWII...

It wasn't communists spending billion of 1950 dollars social engineering people to consume...
Pre 1950 the US was a DURABLE GOODS market, saturated post WWII.

That's when the false 'CONSUMER ECONOMY', crap you 'Consumed' and had to constantly replace...
Millions, then Billions, then TRILLIONS of dollars thrown into advertising, getting you to consume crap...

At the same time, manufacturing moved away from local to conglomerate,
And that made profits flow up to the top 1%.

WAY MORE MONEY WAS SPENT ON ADVERTISING FOR 'CONSUMER GOOD' THAN PROMOTION OF COMMUNISM.

'Big Business' didn't like small manufacturing, so it's gone.
'Big Business' didn't like labor unions, so they are gone.
'Big Business' doesn't like the EPA, so every republican adminstration rolls it back so Big Business can pollute without restriction.
'Big Business' doesn't like law suits, so awards & judgments are capped.

The budget for 'Big Oil' attacking any form of renewable energy is subsidized by the US taxpayer, about $3 billion in 'Grants' to big oil, the most profitable business ever on the planet is getting taxpayer grants...

The Big Fossil Fuel claims of "War On Coal" is a prime example,
They blame wind, solar, hydro-electric,
When it's natural gas killing coal.
It's simply cheaper,
Transportation is a 24/7/365 uninterruptible supply, no trucks, trains, barges, ships required.
It's easier to get out of the ground, no mines, not nearly the employees required,
There is no waste material to haul off after it's burned,
And gas isn't as corrosive, hard on power plant equipment,
No 'Scrubbers' required to remove crap from burning process...

Keep on CONSUMING the propaganda,
Watch one had while the other hand does what it wants without notice...

In this country, you are 1,700 times more likely to be murdered by a white supremacist than a radical islam follower or communist...
I'm WAY more worried about 'Proud Boys', Qanon believer, mass shooter than a 'Communist'.

What a load of bolshevik...

 

[BugI02]

The person she was with claimed that AOC was in her office, which was in a different building, but part of the Capitol complex. That building wasn’t under attack. AOC was not in the danger she claimed, or anything close to it. No one tried to murder her. That claim is baseless propaganda. A lie.

She's every bit as much a 'survivor' as David Hogg was, and is leveraging the lie for the same reasons

 

[Vigilant]

OK, AOC is victim of far left crap, but at least she's not a white supremacist, NAZI, Qanon, or any of the other far right crazy that's advocating rape, murder, war, government overthrow, concentration camps, wiping out the older folks & people of color by not doing anything about COVID, etc.

Good to have someone *Slightly Off* rather than ego maniacs promoting mass murder.

The premise of the thread has been disproven, it's a lie.
She was in the capitol building during the terrorist invasion.

How does that work with the idea she was lying?
Makes the poster another false source of 'Information' at the very least,
But more like a bold faced liar...

So was it her bathroom she was holed up in?

 

[churchmouse]

Why is there so much Whataboutism going on in this thread? This thread is about AOC stepping in it, David Hogg-style.

Someone is off their meds apparently.
Reading comprehension is a serious issue.

 

[BugI02]

Yeah, I don't think anyone has topped AOC yet, Greene's still got some work to do if she wants to do that.

I doubt Maxine Waters is hearing any footsteps yet when it comes to the title of craziest crazy