Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[Keith_Indy]

So, they found James Yeager?

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-703256

Ukraine foreign legion commander: Russian troops are like 'children' to us​

The soldiers who want to join the Ukrainian cause are highly skilled and motivated, the commander said.​

 

[Keith_Indy]

Longtime Putin Adviser Says Russian Leader Is Obsessed With Ukraine And Has 'Stepped Into A Trap'

Gleb Pavlovsky, a Kremlin spin doctor and former adviser to Vladimir Putin who later became a critic, says the Russian leader has fallen into a trap in Ukraine. In an interview with RFE/RL's Georgian Service, Pavlovsky predicts Russia's invasion of Ukraine will cost Putin and Russia dearly.

www.rferl.org

In an interview with RFE/RL's Georgian Service, Gleb Pavlovsky said Putin's decision to invade Ukraine on February 24 made "no political sense."

"This is all Putin's own personal decision. Nobody other than Putin would have made it, not even Ramzan Kadyrov, had he had a say in it," Pavlovsky said, referring to the authoritarian ruler of the Russian republic of Chechnya. "Nobody, including myself, realized just how maniacally obsessed he must have been with Ukraine. We underestimated the extent of decay of the Russian government."

Bucha Residents Describe 'Systematic' Killings By Russian Troops

Residents of this suburb of Kyiv told RFE/RL they managed to survive the "systematic" killing of the town's population by Russian troops that until recently occupied the area.

www.rferl.org

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces continued to reposition to continue their invasion in eastern and southern Ukraine, having abandoned the attack on Kyiv. They have largely completed their withdrawal from the Kyiv area and are reportedly redeploying some of the withdrawn

www.understandingwar.org

Key Takeaways

• The withdrawal of Russian forces from around Kyiv is nearing completion.
• Russia has not yet introduced forces withdrawn from western Ukraine into the fight in the east.
• Ukrainian forces continued to put up organized resistance in parts of Mariupol.
• Russian forces conducted limited offensive operations on the Izyum-Slovyansk axis.

 

[Hawkeye]

Just a comment here. The Russian forces appear to be withdrawing in fairly good order and/or the Ukraine forces are not rapidly pursuing. I kind of expected to hear of some encirclements of Russian troops and that is not apparent from either the maps or the news reports. (Unless I've missed it.)

 

[Keith_Indy]

Interesting take on China...

Is this China's perspective on the Ukraine war?

Strategy Page has an interesting analysis of what China's position appears to be on the war in Ukraine. It's part of a larger, longer art...

bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com

And in the category of "learn something new everyday"

China was also dismayed at the degree of European military support for the Ukrainians, despite Russian threats of nuclear retaliation. That did not dissuade the Europeans or Americans, just as it had not worked on China during their 1969 border war between Russia and China. In 1969 China had recently tested its first nuclear weapon but did not have a nuclear retaliation capability. Russia approached the Americans about joining in a nuclear attack on China. The Americans refused and criticized the Russian threats to use nukes. When China found out about that, there was a warming in the long-frosty relations with the Americans which soon (1972) led to the U.S. recognizing the Chinese communist government.

Ukraine, which has done a lot of business with China over the last decade, is aware that China could order Russia to halt their invasion and deal with the aftermath via negotiations. It suits China to allow Russia to weaken itself further and become more dependent on China. This is their long-range strategy to defeat Russia and retrieve the Pacific coast territory lost to the Russian monarchy centuries ago. For the moment China goes along with the Russian version of the war, in which Russia is simply defending itself from NATO aggression. China intends to be the only winner in this war and so far, that is happening.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Just a comment here. The Russian forces appear to be withdrawing in fairly good order and/or the Ukraine forces are not rapidly pursuing. I kind of expected to hear of some encirclements of Russian troops and that is not apparent from either the maps or the news reports. (Unless I've missed it.)

This could be a reason for that... if true (*as if we need to say that constantly about the "news")

Ukrainian children used as ‘human shields’ near Kyiv, say witness reports

Horrifying accounts tell of Russian soldiers placing children on tanks to protect their vehicles when moving

www.theguardian.com

 

[Keith_Indy]

Background history of Russia and it's relevance in the Ukraine invasion... part of the video is from before the invasion

short version: Russia is in serious decline... this could be Russia's last war. Globally, all 3 sources of fertilizer are in jeopardy, the technical term for this, "the world is F'ed"

 

[ditcherman]

Probably should have pout a link to this thread in the closed one instead off vice versa. But wadda I know?

The closed one will just slowly fade back into to lost pages to never be seen again, like the 4 or 5 closed covid threads. This one will stay on top until it doesn't, or is sequeled.

 

[jwamplerusa]

$5B still gets the job done.

I'm past my prime, fat, and slow. But if @Big Red will stay at my pace I'll spot and watch his six.

The SOB and his murderous thug army needs to go.




I'll work cheap too 5%.

 

[Hawkeye]

The closed one will just slowly fade back into to lost pages to never be seen again, like the 4 or 5 closed covid threads. This one will stay on top until it doesn't, or is sequeled.

That's not the point, now, is it.

 

[ditcherman]

That's not the point, now, is it.

Uh, A. see avatar
B. I thought you were concerned about people finding the current thread or something. Apparently I did miss the point?

 

[Hawkeye]

Uh, A. see avatar
B. I thought you were concerned about people finding the current thread or something. Apparently I did miss the point?

A. So....?
B. Yes, that is my point.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Uh, A. see avatar
B. I thought you were concerned about people finding the current thread or something. Apparently I did miss the point?

Well, I can see the usefulness of linking the thread from old to new. For instance, I got a notification about a reaction to one of my posts on the old thread. Took a minute to 1, realize it was a closed thread, and 2 find the new thread.

 

[Wolfhound]

 

[Keith_Indy]

Why "duct tape and plastic" are 2 essential items to have when bugging in.

Acid tank bombed in Ukraine, toxic fumes could blind residents: officials

The explosion in Rubizhne in the Luhansk region sparked panic as Ukrainian officials urged locals to remain in bombs shelters, or seal their windows and doors if inside their homes.

nypost.com

 

[BigMoose]

Ukrainian BTR firing on two russian tanks

 

[actaeon277]

I have a hard time believing a 30mm did "serious damage" to a tank.

 

[singlestacksig]

I have a hard time believing a 30mm did "serious damage" to a tank.

are they getting 30mm DU rounds from the USA?

 

[Wolfhound]

I have a hard time believing a 30mm did "serious damage" to a tank.

Oh yes. It can achieve a mobility kill by disabling the engine. The rear of a tank is the weak spot. Not gonna harm the crew though. Unless they are stupid enough to jump out under fire.

 

[actaeon277]

are they getting 30mm DU rounds from the USA?

Not all 30mms are the same.
And ours take up an entire plane.
Don't think they installed it on the BTRs.

 

[actaeon277]

Oh yes. It can achieve a mobility kill by disabling the engine. The rear of a tank is the weak spot. Not gonna harm the crew though.

The rear has LESS armor.
Not NO armor.