I had a felony. A few years ago I had it reduced to a misdemeanor. I thought I was good to go to buy firearms. I didn’t know about all the extra work I needed to do with ISP and the FBI to get that reduction recognized. I thought if I gave it a few months the record would correct itself. Thats NOT how it works. I went in RK Bloomington thinking I was good to go and tried to buy an AR lower. Denied! This was 2017ish. I just left and largely forgot about it.
Three or four years later I get an expungement. This time I work with ISP, ATF, and FBI to obtain and then correct my records BEFORE I attempt to buy any firearms. It works! I have been able to buy 10 or so different firearms. I applied and was granted my LTCH and all is well. I got to spend some real quality time shooting with my dad before he passed for which I will be forever grateful.
With several gun buys under my belt I attempted to buy an Anderson lower for $57 at RK Bedford yesterday. Denied! The guy at the counter said ATF denied. I was livid! I called the office and they said that because I was denied a few years ago that “legally” I need to have that specific denial overturned before they can sell me any firearms. Why would I seek to overturn what was probably a righteous denial on a firearm nobody has? Total BS! They freaked me out. Did I just loose what I worked so hard and paid so much to get!? So I go to local gun store and buy a $115 lower receiver just to verify my status. 4473 goes through in seconds like all the others short of RK and I leave with my lower.
Now I know its RK and not the ATF denying me. Most of you guys don’t have this issue. So why should you care? Ill tell you. At Rural King they lead you to believe you are completing a 4473. You aren’t. You are completing a Rural King pre-screen, which when passed, seamlessly forwards the data to ATF. Make no mistake, they saved that data. I know FFL requires some data to be retained but I believe this is above and beyond that. They denied me based on information retained from several years ago they had saved and due to store policy. The ATF never got that 4473 to decide on because RK never passed it on. Then they tell me to my face the ATF denied me. I got RK denied not ATF denied.
If you don’t want all your information saved in a database for Rural King to loose for all of eternity you maybe shouldn’t buy a gun there. They are all mostly 10-20% overpriced anyway.
It is true that if you are ever denied at RK you can NEVER buy another firearm from there. Their policy on it is so disconnected from reality it cannot be worked with or moved beyond. Its just a big pile of stupid keeping me from saving $60 on a lower. Should have grabbed a couple at the 1500.
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Three or four years later I get an expungement. This time I work with ISP, ATF, and FBI to obtain and then correct my records BEFORE I attempt to buy any firearms. It works! I have been able to buy 10 or so different firearms. I applied and was granted my LTCH and all is well. I got to spend some real quality time shooting with my dad before he passed for which I will be forever grateful.
With several gun buys under my belt I attempted to buy an Anderson lower for $57 at RK Bedford yesterday. Denied! The guy at the counter said ATF denied. I was livid! I called the office and they said that because I was denied a few years ago that “legally” I need to have that specific denial overturned before they can sell me any firearms. Why would I seek to overturn what was probably a righteous denial on a firearm nobody has? Total BS! They freaked me out. Did I just loose what I worked so hard and paid so much to get!? So I go to local gun store and buy a $115 lower receiver just to verify my status. 4473 goes through in seconds like all the others short of RK and I leave with my lower.
Now I know its RK and not the ATF denying me. Most of you guys don’t have this issue. So why should you care? Ill tell you. At Rural King they lead you to believe you are completing a 4473. You aren’t. You are completing a Rural King pre-screen, which when passed, seamlessly forwards the data to ATF. Make no mistake, they saved that data. I know FFL requires some data to be retained but I believe this is above and beyond that. They denied me based on information retained from several years ago they had saved and due to store policy. The ATF never got that 4473 to decide on because RK never passed it on. Then they tell me to my face the ATF denied me. I got RK denied not ATF denied.
If you don’t want all your information saved in a database for Rural King to loose for all of eternity you maybe shouldn’t buy a gun there. They are all mostly 10-20% overpriced anyway.
It is true that if you are ever denied at RK you can NEVER buy another firearm from there. Their policy on it is so disconnected from reality it cannot be worked with or moved beyond. Its just a big pile of stupid keeping me from saving $60 on a lower. Should have grabbed a couple at the 1500.
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