Riley Hospital Concealed Carry

[KittySlayer]

Of course the posted policy online for Riley Hospital is no guns.

Scenario is grandson is in NICU and his parents are with him. With COVID only the two parents are allowed to actually be with the baby. May be headed down to Indy to meet them in the lobby or for lunch in the cafeteria. Is it simply signage at the entrances or does Riley have metal detectors?

Thread search indicated metal detectors at ER entrance but it was a rather dated thread.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Of course the posted policy online for Riley Hospital is no guns.

Scenario is grandson is in NICU and his parents are with him. With COVID only the two parents are allowed to actually be with the baby. May be headed down to Indy to meet them in the lobby or for lunch in the cafeteria. Is it simply signage at the entrances or does Riley have metal detectors?

Thread search indicated metal detectors at ER entrance but it was a rather dated thread.

It's been a few years since I've been there, but they had no detectors at that time. I entered from the parking garage.

Hopefully someone has been there more recently.

Prayers for your grandson and family.

 

[1nderbeard]

I was there visiting a friend's son a few years ago, and just a little more recently for an outpatient procedure for my 4 year old.
They do have detectors. If it were me I'd leave it in the car.

 

[***Ironhead***]

No help here as far as your question but thoughts and prayers to you and your family during this difficult time.

 

[BGDave]

Metal detectors for sure. No knives either. I had to hide my 2 inch Case knife outside. The lady security guard about peed herself.

 

[Wolfhound]

Yep, as others have said they do have metal detectors. Too much baby mama drama I guess.

 

[rooster]

Go see your grandson. Leave it in the car. Some things are worth the risk.

-someone who has had a child in the nicu

 

[Dean C.]

Riley has metal detectors FYI

 

[Mr. Habib]

I had twin grand kids in NICU. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Prayers for you and your family. There are a number of decent places to eat close by without metal detectors. You could go that route also.

 

[KittySlayer]

Thanks all for the quick response. Knowing the facts removes one more item of stress.

Will see what the next few days bring. Primarily at the diagnostic/monitoring stage so just a lot of waiting with little information.

Appreciate everyone’s kind thoughts and prayers.

 

[Zeb]

Prayers for your grandson and your family.

 

[Tactically Fat]

Also - be SURE that you actually stay on Riley property and NOT into any Eskanazi or VA property.

not that anyone would know - but just having a firearm on those properties is a crime in and of itself (Eskanazi due to secure facility and VA because the .Gov are not our friends.)

 

[Pepi]

I've gotten into the habit of leaving my gun in the car when going to hospitals. Not worth the hassle

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Also - be SURE that you actually stay on Riley property and NOT into any Eskanazi or VA property.

not that anyone would know - but just having a firearm on those properties is a crime in and of itself (Eskanazi due to secure facility and VA because the .Gov are not our friends.)

The VA you are correct. Esskanazi not quite, I haven't checked but I'm sure Indy has passed an ordinance against it, but that would only apply to inside the hospital. And even then it would be illegal but not a criminal matter it would be a civil matter. Quite possibly and expensive one, but still civil.

I don't think it meets the definition of a penal facility, but if it did. It would only be illegal to bring it in to the hospital as well.
IC 35-44.1-3-5Trafficking with an inmate; carrying a deadly weapon into a correctional facility
(b) A person who, without the prior authorization of the person in charge of a penal facility or juvenile facility, knowingly or intentionally:

(1) delivers, or carries into the penal facility or juvenile facility with intent to deliver, an article to an inmate or child of the facility;
(2) carries, or receives with intent to carry out of the penal facility or juvenile facility, an article from an inmate or child of the facility; or
(3) delivers, or carries to a worksite with the intent to deliver, alcoholic beverages to an inmate or child of a jail work crew or community work crew;
commits trafficking with an inmate, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Level 5 felony under subdivision (1) or (2) if the article is a controlled substance, a deadly weapon, or a cellular telephone or other wireless or cellular communications device.

 

[Frosty]

Haven’t been on in awhile, as a dad of a two year old that spent 20 days in the nicu I wanted to offer my prayers and well wishes.

 

[ratames]

The VA you are correct. Esskanazi not quite, I haven't checked but I'm sure Indy has passed an ordinance against it, but that would only apply to inside the hospital. And even then it would be illegal but not a criminal matter it would be a civil matter. Quite possibly and expensive one, but still civil.

I don't think it meets the definition of a penal facility, but if it did. It would only be illegal to bring it in to the hospital as well.
IC 35-44.1-3-5Trafficking with an inmate; carrying a deadly weapon into a correctional facility
(b) A person who, without the prior authorization of the person in charge of a penal facility or juvenile facility, knowingly or intentionally:

(1) delivers, or carries into the penal facility or juvenile facility with intent to deliver, an article to an inmate or child of the facility;
(2) carries, or receives with intent to carry out of the penal facility or juvenile facility, an article from an inmate or child of the facility; or
(3) delivers, or carries to a worksite with the intent to deliver, alcoholic beverages to an inmate or child of a jail work crew or community work crew;
commits trafficking with an inmate, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Level 5 felony under subdivision (1) or (2) if the article is a controlled substance, a deadly weapon, or a cellular telephone or other wireless or cellular communications device.

Eskanazi does have the Marion County Sheriff's detention unit so carry there is a no-no and illegal.

As for Riley Hospital and most other IU Health hospitals. They now have metal detectors at all entrances and, in addition, their "security" officers are now sworn police officers with full arrest powers. Events at the downtown hospitals set this in motion several years ago. I used to work there and was there when it all transpired. My ex also works at Riley and the stories she used to bring home would just make me shake my head and wonder how these idiots are able to function on daily basis.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Eskanazi does have the Marion County Sheriff's detention unit so carry there is a no-no and illegal.

As for Riley Hospital and most other IU Health hospitals. They now have metal detectors at all entrances and, in addition, their "security" officers are now sworn police officers with full arrest powers. Events at the downtown hospitals set this in motion several years ago. I used to work there and was there when it all transpired. My ex also works at Riley and the stories she used to bring home would just make me shake my head and wonder how these idiots are able to function on daily basis.

Yes I know they have the detention unit there. As I stated I don't believe it meets the definition of a penal facility. And I'd say the legislature agrees with me, otherwise they wouldn't have needed to carve out an exemption for a local ordinance prohibiting carry in the hospital. But as I also stated, if it does, carry on the grounds is perfectly legal as long as you don't enter into the hospital.

 

[ratames]

Yes I know they have the detention unit there. As I stated I don't believe it meets the definition of a penal facility. And I'd say the legislature agrees with me, otherwise they wouldn't have needed to carve out an exemption for a local ordinance prohibiting carry in the hospital. But as I also stated, if it does, carry on the grounds is perfectly legal as long as you don't enter into the hospital.

The detention unit is considered part of the Marion County Jail since it is run by the Sheriff's Department, so yes, it is a penal facility. Yes, carry on the grounds should be legal, but I don't know whether I would trust all the "Barney Fife's" patrolling down there.

 

[KittySlayer]

Thanks to everyone for their insight and prayers.

The young man’s stay was very short and he is home with mom and dad and growing like a weed.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

The detention unit is considered part of the Marion County Jail since it is run by the Sheriff's Department, so yes, it is a penal facility. Yes, carry on the grounds should be legal, but I don't know whether I would trust all the "Barney Fife's" patrolling down there.

Ran by does not equal penal facility. And just that ward or the entire place? And once again the legislature seems to agree with my interpretation since they allowed marion county to place a local ordinance on carry inside the hospital.