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  • Go Devil

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    Let me begin this by saying that I am a passionate supporter of the men and women who make up our armed forces. My father is retired military and my brother is currently serving in the Marine Corps. I have done hundreds of shows for military personnel over the last decade and will continue to do so as long as they will have me. I still give a large portion of my take from "We Love You, Mrs. Bevins" (the documentary I directed about entertaining the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, available on Netflix and Amazon.com) to nonprofit organizations that support our military (like woundedwarriorproject.org).
    That said, as an American civilian I exercise and defend my right to bear arms for the protection of my loved ones and my property. I lived in Los Angeles during the riots in 1992 and those rioters came within a few blocks of where I was staying. At that time I did not own a gun and if a group of those rioters had broken into our house with ill intent, I'd probably be writing this from a wheelchair and punching the keys with a drool-soaked pencil held between my teeth.
    You may not remember Reginald Denny or Fidel Lopez but I do. Both of those guys, along with many other people that night, were yanked from their vehicles by rioters and beaten into ****ing hamburger.
    The LAPD were of no help while all this was going on but I don't think that even matters. The military is responsible for protecting the liberties of all Americans from foreign invaders. The local police departments are responsible for protecting the communities at large. But your personal security is your responsibility. That's what the Bill of Rights is all about. You only have the rights you are willing to defend. YOU must defend them. If someone else defends them for you they become privileges, and you are no longer free.
    This is one of the reasons why I believe in open carry, meaning I have the right to carry my Smith & Wesson M&P .40 on my hip, in plain view, at all times. Good people far outnumber bad people in this country and I know there would be fewer violent crimes if we all were armed and trained to defend ourselves.
    If you were a bad guy about to rob a liquor store, and you noticed that four or five customers in the store had guns on their hips, wouldn't you have second thoughts about attempting that robbery? You're ******* right, you would.
    The reason I'm mentioning all this is because recently there has been a deliberate and insidious erosion of the idea that people are responsible for their own protection. We are being incrementally conditioned to live in a different America, a supervised America, an occupied America.
    The Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security have begun a campaign to slowly get you used to seeing active duty soldiers roaming the streets of this country, in direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act which prohibits military personnel from domestic law enforcement.
    The Armed Forces Press Service recently reported that the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team in Indian Head, Maryland wrapped up three days of intensive training as a "Consequence Management Force" in response to incidents that may take place within the borders of the United States. This is just the beginning. At the end of November the Pentagon announced that it expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops readily available for deployment domestically by 2011.
    I doubt the soldiers themselves realize what they are being groomed for. Initially these exercises are sold to a gullible and lazy media as necessary security measures against various forms of terrorism. But as the general public begins to realize the magnitude of the disastrous results from the 2008 Bailout Money-Printing Party, the real reasons for having armed troops on the streets of the U.S. will be ominously clear.
    Crowd control.
    Rather than permitting a few monolithic corporations to go bankrupt and allow a free market correction to take place, Bush, Cheney, Bernanke and Paulson threatened a weak-kneed congress with martial law, bullying them into signing away the wealth and future of this country to a cabal of criminal bankers who will ultimately cash in BIG TIME once the new Bretton Woods World Monetary System is announced.
    Bush, Cheney, Bernanke and Paulson. They have looted our treasury in the biggest heist this country has ever seen. Two hundred years ago these four evil ****s would have been swinging from a tree behind the White House while a disgusted citizenry took turns beating the filthy, unholy **** out of their lifeless bodies with a blacksmith hammer. Instead, it looks like Bush, Cheney, Bernanke and Paulson are going to get away with the crime of the century while our mongoloid media focuses on Israel and any other dog that the tail can wag.
    In short, I am telling you to steel yourself for the coming storm. Your country has been bought and sold and your paper money has a shelf life of about 24 months. Be prepared to defend your loved ones and your property. Memorize your Bill of Rights. Make arrangements for food, fuel and power shortages.
    Our strength, and ultimately our success, in restoring this Republic will come through our unity.
    We are about to become real Americans again.
    e pluribus unum.
    Copyright 2009 John Bizarre
     

    Joe Williams

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    An anti-Bush rant?

    Here's a reality check: Bush isn't President. The hero of leftists and socialists around the world, Hussein Obama is our President. Since his election in November, stocks have plummteted to half their previous values. In just over a month of his Presidency, stocks plunged more than 25% below what they were when he took office. It his President Hussein who pushed for, and signed into law, the biggest pork spending program in our nation's history, redistributing wealth on a massive basis.

    Under President Bush, stocks soared to record level highs, and unemloyment was at record lows. We had an economy that was performing at unprecedented levels. Then, in 2008, Americans chose to hand control of Congress over to leftist Democrats, and our economy began to crash. In two years of Democratic control, the economy has gone from record highs to being on it's way to record lows.

    I think the author needs to seek treatment for his Bush Derangement Syndrome. It's misguided, to be extremely charitable.
     

    Go Devil

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    "Anti-Bush Rant"

    No.

    Check the date of the article.

    The paper messiah has gutted the fish as well.

    Just posting the entire content of the authors article.

    Note highlighted portion and title of thread.
     

    ATF Consumer

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    "Anti-Bush Rant"

    No.

    Check the date of the article.

    The paper messiah has gutted the fish as well.

    Just posting the entire content of the authors article.

    Note highlighted portion and title of thread.


    I don't know what the date has to do with anything...heck, just watch MSNBC or CNN and they have anti-Bush crap on every day...because if they talked about real news it would be how Obama is sinking our ship.:twocents:
     

    smokingman

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    No, but I was just stating that the media is still focused on Bush and his policies...stll attacking them rather than attacking the Messiah's and his push to destroy our country.
    I agree.However cnbc just ripped the messiah a new one :) And Bush does get quite a bit of the blame for the econmy.Yes the market has gone down 20% since Obama took office,but during Bush it went from 14,000 to 9,000. It is now 6575. But to not worry the Federal Reserve(no part of our govenment but a private corperation)is still making 6% on every simulus dollar they print.
    :xmad:
     

    ATF Consumer

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    Yea, I forced myself to watch Olbermann the other day for the entire hour and I can say it was quite entertaining indeed.

    He literally spent over half of his program knocking Bush and Cheney.
    The only Demo dog he attacked was Blagojevich, but that is because he's already out and doesn't count any more.

    I only watched Olbermann because I can not stand to watch O'Reilly any more...the guy just makes me sick with his middle of the road position on everything.

    Now I have been putting Beck on DVR and when I get home, rather than watching O'Reilly, I just play Beck instead...makes for a much more informative evening. :yesway:
     

    CarmelHP

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    And Bush does get quite a bit of the blame for the econmy.Yes the market has gone down 20% since Obama took office,but during Bush it went from 14,000 to 9,000.

    But look at Obama's productivity, it took Bush 8 years for it to go down 30%. Obama has done 20% in just a month and a half. He's working so much faster at wealth destruction that we all could be in the breadline by June. At least it will be warm.
     

    yotewacker

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    If you look in 2006 our economy was going strong with record highs. then we got a mostly democtratic congress in session and overseas everything Bush done. That's when we started to fail. Then our good people elected more of the same in 2008. Obama has got to quite throwing money with no results to show. Look at Citi. They have been given several billion dollars and there stock still dropped. Our money is being wasted.
     

    public servant

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    Your money was being wasted long before Obama took office. We have been being raped for years. As soon as the Republicans feared 3 years ago they had no viable candidate that could win the election they started pillaging the treasure chest. Big oil, Wall Street CEO's and the bankers (Republicans) were taken care of without a rat's behind for the consequences to John Q. Public. Although I'm not an Obama fan....he didn't start this mess....and honestly....it is too far gone even if he could fix it. It's going to get worse. The media reported this afternoon that Indiana now sports a 9.2% unemployment rate. My bet is it will more than double that by the end of the year. Better start stockpiling canned and dried food good....and lots and lots of ammo. Because the worst is nowhere near in sight. There's going to be a lot of hungry, pissed off, homeless people wandering the streets at night come soon. God help us all...because the politicians sure as hell aren't going to. And there ought to be a bunch of SOB's going to prison over this crap....but they won't. :xmad:
     

    public servant

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    HP and Smokin, you're saying the DOW drop was caused by the new President? Really?
    Apparently many people have been in hibernation and slept through the last couple of years. It's been on a downhill slide for a while....and Obama's throwing more money under the tires since January hasn't slowed this runaway bus. But the blame goes far back before 2008. They've all screwed us.
     
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    HICKMAN

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    No, but I was just stating that the media is still focused on Bush and his policies...stll attacking them rather than attacking the Messiah's and his push to destroy our country.

    :+1:

    Yup, they are focused on Karl Rove and fired attorneys instead of paying attention to their chosen leader, who's sinking the market faster than the Bismark.

    They'd rather try to focus on Rush Limbaugh and talk radio over the real issues. I guess the media focus on gray hair, Obam's kids new swingset and Michael Steele are the focus.


    Looking at Bizzare's current blog ( http://www.johnbizarre.com/ ) he's going after Obama the same way he did Bush. Which is fair, Bush allowed himself to get bullied into putting this crappy plan called TARP together.
     

    finity

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    An anti-Bush rant?

    Here's a reality check: Bush isn't President. The hero of leftists and socialists around the world, Hussein Obama is our President. Since his election in November, stocks have plummteted to half their previous values. In just over a month of his Presidency, stocks plunged more than 25% below what they were when he took office. It his President Hussein who pushed for, and signed into law, the biggest pork spending program in our nation's history, redistributing wealth on a massive basis.

    Under President Bush, stocks soared to record level highs, and unemloyment was at record lows. We had an economy that was performing at unprecedented levels. Then, in 2008, Americans chose to hand control of Congress over to leftist Democrats, and our economy began to crash. In two years of Democratic control, the economy has gone from record highs to being on it's way to record lows.

    I think the author needs to seek treatment for his Bush Derangement Syndrome. It's misguided, to be extremely charitable.

    You're being intellectually dishonest again.

    Obama & the Democrats aren't completely responsible for the mess the economy is in right now. That ground work was laid before Obama was even in the running for President. Contrary to what you're programmed to think by right wing talk radio & the "ditto heads" (kind of says it all doesn't it?), policies enacted by Democrats don't start having effect immediately while also trying to say it takes years for Republican policies to be felt. Obama is not individually responsible for this mess we are now in apart from his votes as 1 of 100 other Senators who faced the same decisions.

    I find it funny (in a sad, ridiculous sort of way) that Clinton was blamed by right wingers for 9-11 even though he had been in office for 9 months, had intelligence (& I mean that strictly in the national security sense) that something was going to happen & took no action to stop it. But now somehow Obama is at fault for the economy even though he's only been in office few weeks & was handed this bag of crap from his predessesor. Unless you are intentionally being dishonest I can't believe you don't see the illogic of your position. You can't honestly expect to have it both ways.

    People elected the Democrats to the majority of both houses in 2006 because they finally started seeing the writing on the wall. Bush (with the Republicans already in the majority) came into office in 2000 with a pretty good economy & (if I recall correctly) a nearly, if not fully, balanced budget. In 8 years through his & Republican policies of huge increases in spending, tax cuts for the rich, an energy policy that allowed the oil companies to gouge the average American for record profits with absolutely no market driven justification & a costly war in Iraq that has no real discernible benefits managed to pretty much double the the national debt from around $5.7T (which included all debt incurred in the first 225 years of our existence) to over $10T.

    So your argument says that the Democrats are to blame for the state of the economy right now. What specific legislation did the 110th Congress enact that was vetoed by Bush & susequently overriden by that same Congress that caused the economy to be in its current condition? You can't include the recent legislation under Obama because the economy was already tanking even before the November elections.

    Come on I know you have to have something to back up your statements.

    Have you actually looked at historical unemployment rates to backup your claim of "unemloyment was at record lows"? I seriously doubt it. Just more dishonesty.

    Lets do that now, shall we:

    Unemployment was at 4.2% in January 2001 when Bush took over. It rose to a high of 6.3% in June 2003 then slowly lowered slighty to hover around 5% in mid-2005 where it stayed until May 2008 when it quickly rose to over 7% in Dec 2008.

    Unemployment was at 7.3% in January 1993 when Clinton took office. It consistently lowered until it reached it lowest level of 3.8% in April 2000.

    Looking at real factual data:

    Clintons unemployment was highest in the beginning of his 2 terms at 7.3% & lowest at the end if his 2 terms at 3.8%. Bush's highest unemployment was at the end of his 2 terms at 7.2% & his lowest unemployment was at the beginning of his 2 terms with 4.2%.

    Wanna retract that statement & try again?

    Now lets look at the Stock market.

    It is true that stocks were at their highest during Bush's administration. But lets look a little closer at the historical details:

    The Dow was at around 3500 in 1993 when Clinton took office. It pretty much continously rose to 11215 in August 2000 with the largest rate of (pretty well continuous) increase ever between 1995 & mid-1998. Yes, it had been rising before Clinton took office but it rose faster after he took office & stayed pretty high until he left.

    The Dow was around 11000 when Bush took office in January 2001. Dropped to a low of 7500 in mid 2002 then finally rose back to where it started at the beginning of 2004. It stayed pretty well flat until the beginning of 2006. It then rose to a high of 14000 in October 2008 before collapsing to 8000 in January 2009.

    So lets recap:

    The Dow rose at its fastest rate starting in the beginning of 1995 (before any legislation by the newly elected Republican Congress had any effect) & ending in 1998 while Clinton was in office & continued to rise to 11000 before Bush took office.

    The Dow dropped from 11000 to 7500 then back up to 11000 between 2001 & 2004 then stayed between 10000 & 11000 until mid-2007. So basically we were just treading water during those 6 years while we had a Republican President & Congress (not really what I would describe as "soared", huh?). The Dow again started to rise in mid-2007 after a Democratic Congress was elected. It then collapsed under the weight of the mortgage bubble bursting at the end of 2008, not because Obama was elected. It was already going downhill. Right now he is just trying to bail out a sinking boat with a thimble.

    Looking at things in historical perspective Bush's record doesn't seem so great, now does it?

    I think your "Obama Derangement Syndrome" is clouding your reasoning ability a little.

    I have to ask; Did you get your "Bush Derangement Syndrome" idea from 4sarge or did he copy it from you? I was accused of being a "sock puppet" on weaker grounds ya' know.
     
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    cubby

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    i think american greed has a lot more to do with our current state than who is the president. now or before.

    last time i met someone who NEEDED a half million dollar home just cause they could afford it at the time waaaaaaaas.. NEVER.
     

    Go Devil

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    i think american greed has a lot more to do with our current state than who is the president. now or before.

    last time i met someone who NEEDED a half million dollar home just cause they could afford it at the time waaaaaaaas.. NEVER.


    I'm glad Cubby is finally getting the topic of this thread back on course.

    Personal Security my friends, Personal Security.
     
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