NSA buys Americans’ internet data, newly released documents show

[Gunmetalgray]

Didn't see this being discussed. So one agency buys certain data, another buys another type of data,.... Sure has been a noticeable spike in job postings in the last few years for 'database analytics/engineers/etc', coincidence surely. I get it, information is needed to combat threats. But trust with such data has been broken.
But why buy it? Does that provide a legal loophole vs just taking the data in the name of national security?

https://www.wlfi.com/news/the-nsa-b...cle_9bc5b225-9bd6-5cb7-b2d4-87e8c72b3dde.html





Maybe this thread will end up in the database. As the creator, I want royaltie$, lol! Offset my taxes going towards it.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Didn't see this being discussed. So one agency buys certain data, another buys another type of data,.... Sure has been a noticeable spike in job postings in the last few years for 'database analytics/engineers/etc', coincidence surely. I get it, information is needed to combat threats. But trust with such data has been broken.
But why buy it? Does that provide a legal loophole vs just taking the data in the name of national security?

https://www.wlfi.com/news/the-nsa-b...cle_9bc5b225-9bd6-5cb7-b2d4-87e8c72b3dde.html

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West Lafayette station tagged a CNN story where they actually did some journalism.

This is scary as hell, on many levels.

 

[phylodog]

Why buy it? Why that's easy, it transfers some of the imaginary money our politicians create from thin air into the hands of their friends in private industry. It's similar to a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" endeavor except this one is more like "Let's get more rich and powerful by spying on Americans while making them pay for it".

 

[smokingman]

FBI has been doing it for quite awhile. It has been part of the Republican investigation into weaponization of government agencies.

Here is the FBI’s Contract to Buy Mass Internet Data

The FBI previously purchased access to "netflow" data, which a company called Team Cymru obtains from ISPs. Team Cymru then sells it to the government.

www.vice.com

 

[Ingomike]

I believe that this all started with the government buying data from credit reporting agencies, but nobody cared back then when made aware of it, their eyes would just glaze over...

 

[jwamplerusa]

If you read through the Edward Snowden revelations, this and worse should not surprise you.

As shown by the Twitter files, the Federal Government has colluded with private business to violate American Citizens Rights, and violated the restrictions upon the Federal Government's actions by the BoRs routinely.

The Federal Government has been violating the restrictions of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 10th Amendments for decades. Since 2001 often in the name of "National Security".

There truly is no answer other than to simply burn down 70-80% of the Federal Government bureaucracy. It cannot be saved or reformed.

Ramaswamy had the right idea, but didn't finish with what has too happen after that 75% is terminated. Every building they have occupied gets burned to the ground, bulldozed, and p***** on by every Patriot in range.

What I wanted to ask Ramaswamy was this. If you become President and terminate 75% of Federal Government employees, and they simply refuse to leave, what are you going to do? My suggestion was going to be to call upon the unorganized Militia (with tutoring on what that meant) to evict from each Federal building all newly non-employees and seize all government property in their possession and destroy it. Anything else, and the subversives and seditionists will simply out wait the effort in the courts.

ETA: forgot to include the 2nd Amdt.

 

[LEaSH]

Total Information Awareness

U.S. Never Really Ended Creepy "Total Information Awareness" Program*

blogs.scientificamerican.com

 

[BugI02]

Didn't see this being discussed. So one agency buys certain data, another buys another type of data,.... Sure has been a noticeable spike in job postings in the last few years for 'database analytics/engineers/etc', coincidence surely. I get it, information is needed to combat threats. But trust with such data has been broken.
But why buy it? Does that provide a legal loophole vs just taking the data in the name of national security?

https://www.wlfi.com/news/the-nsa-b...cle_9bc5b225-9bd6-5cb7-b2d4-87e8c72b3dde.html

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The security agencies can't spy on citizens except in [not] narrowly [enough] defined circumstances without a warrant, but if commercial concerns have already vacuumed up the data they want and offer it for sale, it lets them avoid that whole legal oversight mess

Cheap mass storage of info combined with fast processors and algorithms to search that info in near real time, as well as human greed coupled with the illusion the tumbrel will never come for them, will be looked back on as the death of freedom

 

[BugI02]

If you read through the Edward Snowden revelations, this and worse should not surprise you.

I remember that Snowden said the only way he would ever believe the camera and microphone in a smartphone were not on was if he took a soldering iron and disconnected them himself - and that was in 2013!

 

[jwamplerusa]

I remember that Snowden said the only way he would ever believe the camera and microphone in a smartphone were not on was if he took a soldering iron and disconnected them himself - and that was in 2013!

This, and more, is why I do not trust any election executed or counted via electronic means.

The camera and microphone stuff is demonstrated every day. Just look at what shows up in ads served to you, that you never searched on, just spoke about.

 

[phylodog]

This, and more, is why I do not trust any election executed or counted via electronic means.

Which is why I fear the battle has already been lost.

 

[Tombs]

I believe that this all started with the government buying data from credit reporting agencies, but nobody cared back then when made aware of it, their eyes would just glaze over...

Their eyes still glaze over because the TV told them this country on the other side of the planet needs bombed.