NRA Constitutional Carry Update

[chipbennett]

They don’t care about court decisions.

They do whatever the hell they want with complete disregard for law or precedent. Everyday.

They know someone has to pay a lawyer a fortune to call them on it, and most don’t have the resources. They search whom they want, when they want, for as long as they want, and take whatever they want. When they are wrong there are ZERO real consequences so why would they do anything different?

The point is that such actions are already unconstitutional, with or without the LTCH requirement. Pinner did not have an LTCH and was not a "proper person".

 

[Kirk Freeman]

In a post-Pinner world, this is already the status quo. Eliminating the LTCH requirement will have literally zero impact on this status quo.

One dude on INGO understands what FOP, No. 2 at IMPD, Indiana State Police, a Nazi Police Chief from Lafayette, the MegaBrains at IPAC and a bunch of wine moms do not.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

IMPD No. 2 laughs at your rights.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

MegaBrains at IPAC point out to a receptive Media why they oppose your rights.

 

[Bookmark]

Pinner v. State

The Supreme Court held that evidence obtained after a search and seizure was obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment and that the trial court erred in denying Defendant’s motion to suppress the evidence obtained as a result of the search and seizure. The trial court denied the motion to...

law.justia.com

Thank you Kirk Freeman for the link to the Pinner v. State opinion summary. It was very enlightening.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Thank you Kirk Freeman for the link to the Pinner v. State opinion summary. It was very enlightening.

I sent it to IPAC but they only used the paper to write proposed legislation that gives them more power and money.

Can we, can we stop the b.s. from cops about how "they aren't involved in the law making process"? Is that dead yet?

 

[jwamplerusa]

I sent it to IPAC but they only used the paper to write proposed legislation that gives them more power and money.

Can we, can we stop the b.s. from cops about how "they aren't involved in the law making process"? Is that dead yet?

Other than as an individual citizen, they shouldn't be.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Other than as an individual citizen, they shouldn't be.

They’re not supposed to be, you’re right, as officers of the law and thus, agents of govt.
In that role, that is, in their professional capacity, they have no more business supporting or opposing a law than does the governor, with the exception that he gets to make the pass-or-veto call.

Now, Eric Holcomb or Pat Flannelly, or the guys from Fort Wayne gang unit (VIPER, if memory serves) all have every right to support or oppose any bill’s passage as private citizens, which is to say you go to Indy to testify, you do so in regular clothes. You drive YOUR car, not the city’s. You fuel up on your dime, not the taxpayers’, and most importantly, when you go into that building, you leave your gun locked up, out of sight, in your car. You testify whichever way you want, but you do it with that uneasy feeling in the pit of your stomach that the rest of the private citizens have. That goes for either side. I say the same to Sheriff Quakenbush as I do to Pat Flanelly if Lafayette.

Funny thing is, sight unseen, I would expect the sheriff to agree with me and do that without argument, as long as the other side did the same.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Jeepster48439]

They’re not supposed to be, you’re right, as officers of the law and thus, agents of govt.
In that role, that is, in their professional capacity, they have no more business supporting or opposing a law than does the governor, with the exception that he gets to make the pass-or-veto call.

Now, Eric Holcomb or Pat Flannelly, or the guys from Fort Wayne gang unit (VIPER, if memory serves) all have every right to support or oppose any bill’s passage as private citizens, which is to say you go to Indy to testify, you do so in regular clothes. You drive YOUR car, not the city’s. You fuel up on your dime, not the taxpayers’, and most importantly, when you go into that building, you leave your gun locked up, out of sight, in your car. You testify whichever way you want, but you do it with that uneasy feeling in the pit of your stomach that the rest of the private citizens have. That goes for either side. I say the same to Sheriff Quakenbush as I do to Pat Flanelly if Lafayette.

Funny thing is, sight unseen, I would expect the sheriff to agree with me and do that without argument, as long as the other side did the same.

Blessings,
Bill

And not use your work title during your testimony.

 

[bwframe]

IIRC, Guy Relford said that Carter stayed after his testimony through the vote. Supposedly not supposed to happen, as it is looked at as intimidation?


.

 

[Bill of Rights]

IIRC, Guy Relford said that Carter stayed after his testimony through the vote. Supposedly not supposed to happen, as it is looked at as intimidation?


.

I'm not sure about that. When I've gone to testify, I've stayed to see how it worked out. Never been told I couldn't.... But I agree with you, esp. considering his title and to whom he reports.

For the rest of us, how can it be intimidation when THEY (legislators) are allowed to carry in the Statehouse, but WE are not?

 

[tbhausen]

For the rest of us, how can it be intimidation when THEY (legislators) are allowed to carry in the Statehouse, but WE are not?

The most intimidating thing about that to me is the fact that so many of them revealed themselves through their testimony to be dumber than a box of rocks. I’ll stop short of saying what I think of the people that continue to vote them into office.

 

[Yup!]

About a month ago there was a bill that was passed and signed by the Gov. the same day. I don’t recall the contents - I just recall the speed.

The fact that this isn’t signed yet tells me all I need to know.

 

[looper]

SIGNED

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

SIGNED

Yay!

 

[binkerton]

Its cause I called him today and urged him to.

Seriously though, this is awesome news!

 

[manifest destiny]

So Holcomb officially signed CC?

 

[phylodog]

When will that go into effect?

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

July 1 we get some freedom back.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Holcomb’s statement.