NRA Constitutional Carry Update

[wtburnette]

Hopefully GA is added to that soon!

 

[tbhausen]

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It looks so pretty.

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Constitutional Carry / Unrestricted / Permitless Carry | USCCA

Unrestricted means that a permit is not required to carry a concealed handgun. See a list of permitless carry states here.

www.usconcealedcarry.com

I’m trying to wrap my mind around the distinction USCCA makes between “Constitutional” and “permitless” carry. Can anyone clarify this?

 

[JEBland]

I’m trying to wrap my mind around the distinction USCCA makes between “Constitutional” and “permitless” carry. Can anyone clarify this?

As I'm reading it...
Constitutional: If you're allowed to own a gun, you're allowed to carry it (modulo if the state cares about open/concealed)
Permitless: If you meet their "proper person" definition, which is more restrictive than the feds' designation as who is allowed to purchase, then you can carry without a permit.

 

[JEBland]

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Constitutional Carry / Unrestricted / Permitless Carry | USCCA

Unrestricted means that a permit is not required to carry a concealed handgun. See a list of permitless carry states here.

www.usconcealedcarry.com

Obviously GA and NE are currently fighting for this. Next best steps? LA, FL, NV? Maybe MN?

 

[BigMoose]

LPD secret camera program. Given LPD's history, why is this so unsettling?

License-plate-recognition cameras prove their value in LPD pilot program

A pilot program with license-plate-recognition cameras in Lafayette worked well over the last nine months, Lafayette police indicated Thursday.

www.jconline.com

Spoke to someone in Marion county with this system. He says the worst thing about it almost always flags an expired tag when he is just on his way to get some lunch.

 

[wtburnette]

Obviously GA and NE are currently fighting for this. Next best steps? LA, FL, NV? Maybe MN?

FL would seem a natural fit. I won't hold my breath for MN.

 

[Gabriel]

Oh man, the work emails are flying today. They're all about whether we can lengthen traffic stops while running a Triple I on anyone found carrying a handgun.

I can't wait to retire.

 

[JEBland]

Oh man, the work emails are flying today. They're all about whether we can lengthen traffic stops while running a Triple I on anyone found carrying a handgun.

I can't wait to retire.

Isn't that inappropriate since it's a stop for a traffic violation? At least, that's what the YouTube lawyers say...

 

[tbhausen]

Oh man, the work emails are flying today. They're all about whether we can lengthen traffic stops while running a Triple I on anyone found carrying a handgun.

I can't wait to retire.

Isn’t this illegal in light of Pinner?

 

[joslar15]

Raise the speed limit by 5mph on all roads. People won't actually drive faster, it just reduces fine amounts.

interstates depends on weather conditions, State and county roads by 10 and I'm in!

 

[JEBland]

Isn’t this illegal in light of Pinner?

Probably, but if I recall the House testimony from Jan 5th, the one anti-1077 LEO said that people could be questioned if stopped for other reasons. There also seems to be a "they can ask you anything but can't make you answer" policy that makes me rather squeamish.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Probably, but if I recall the House testimony from Jan 5th, the one anti-1077 LEO said that people could be questioned if stopped for other reasons. There also seems to be a "they can ask you anything but can't make you answer" policy that makes me rather squeamish.

Why are you people talking to cops? We have been over this.

How to Handle Traffic Stops While Carrying

Endless threads on INGO are generated regarding individuals carrying handguns and police interactions during traffic stops. Let's go over how to mitigate our risks of being stopped and how to handle traffic stops. 1. Clean your vehicle. Keep your car clean and organized. Stop throwing filth...

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[cbhausen]

Why are you people talking to cops? We have been over this.

How to Handle Traffic Stops While Carrying

Endless threads on INGO are generated regarding individuals carrying handguns and police interactions during traffic stops. Let's go over how to mitigate our risks of being stopped and how to handle traffic stops. 1. Clean your vehicle. Keep your car clean and organized. Stop throwing filth...

www.indianagunowners.com

THIS!

STFU and don’t forfeit your rights

 

[Gabriel]

Why are you people talking to cops?

This.

I am, however, curious about the legality of running a triple I on someone just to see if they are a proper person simply because they are carrying a handgun.

 

[JEBland]

Why are you people talking to cops? We have been over this.

How to Handle Traffic Stops While Carrying

Endless threads on INGO are generated regarding individuals carrying handguns and police interactions during traffic stops. Let's go over how to mitigate our risks of being stopped and how to handle traffic stops. 1. Clean your vehicle. Keep your car clean and organized. Stop throwing filth...

www.indianagunowners.com

I've never been pulled over, but it still makes me a little uncomfortable.
- For instance, an officer can order you out of the car a la PA v Mimms. Sure.
- Roll the full window down, sure. What if the officer requests that all the windows be lowered? Is that required?

I guess my real question is how does a non-lawyer determine what is legally required (since say most people haven't of PvM) versus what is a way for the officer to fish for something?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

This.

I am, however, curious about the legality of running a triple I on someone just to see if they are a proper person simply because they are carrying a handgun.

Probably a stupid question but what is a triple I?

 

[Gabriel]

Probably a stupid question but what is a triple I?

Not a stupid question at all. It's a criminal history database maintained by the FBI.

 

[Tombs]

I've never been pulled over, but it still makes me a little uncomfortable.
- For instance, an officer can order you out of the car a la PA v Mimms. Sure.
- Roll the full window down, sure. What if the officer requests that all the windows be lowered? Is that required?

I guess my real question is how does a non-lawyer determine what is legally required (since say most people haven't of PvM) versus what is a way for the officer to fish for something?

If a cop gives orders, it's going to be something to be settled in court, not on the side of the road.

 

[d.kaufman]

I thought there was some kind of law about traffic stops and time someone can be held without probable cause.

 

[jamil]

It isn't just ISP, this morning on the South Bend news, they have the St Jos Co Sheriff, whining about it.

Maybe someone should write an op ed and tell teh St Joe Co Sheriff to suck a big fat d. So to speak. I mean, not literally say that, but have the article, in effect, say that.