New BATF ruling on stabilizing braces today

[d.kaufman]

In my best BigRed voice

**** the ATF!

 

[jsx1043]

“Free” registration is still registration and henceforth unconstitutional. It’s a compliance tool.

From the vaulted halls of Reddit:

 

[bobzilla]

In my best BigRed voice

**** the ATF!

This. **** those **** sucking mother ****ing ******* ****s.

 

[deo62]

This. **** those **** sucking mother ****ing ******* ****s.

Well said

 

[Lpherr]

This. **** those **** sucking mother ****ing ******* ****s.

BigRed would be proud. I imagine, if he's reading along, he's all misty.

 

[Hkindiana]

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[Altrex]

Registration also handcuffs the owner to now need a form 4 to sell along with the wait time for the buyer.

 

[Yup!]

Registration also handcuffs the owner to now need a form 4 to sell along with the wait time for the buyer.

And makes travel across state lines more difficult.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Holy smokes. 293 pages. I haven't read a quarter of it yet, but the hubris seeps through on every page. They keep repeating "objective design features" with the maniacal obsession of someone who knows their lie is so blatantly obvious that they have to keep repeating it just to try to make themselves believe it. Unless I missed it while skimming through that massive pile of vapid text, they didn't give a single darn objective measurement to go off of.

Why won't they just draw a line for us and be done with it? They ramble on and on about "objective design features" but won't give us any objective features or numbers to go off of. If they want to make a determination, that the least they could do is actually make a determination; tell us exactly how much rear surface area, what length of pull, something we can at least look at and know whether or not something is a brace or a stock.

Of course I know why they won't do that. They love this power they have, and want to hold on to it. It'd be such a shame for them if us common folk could know and figure out for ourselves what's lawful and what isn't. They'd much rather we be left in the dark, sending in every example for them to subjectively determine what is or isn't a stock (and then change that later based on irrelevant factor like "marketing" of the product) and always wondering whether or not they plan on making us felons overnight.

 

[edwea]

So when does this get written into the register?

 

[Altrex]

I wonder how short barreled shotguns would play into this ruling. They are different classifications per the NFA but not mentioned from what Inhave read so far.

 

[Basher]

Does INGO auto-censor? I don’t know because I rarely use language this coarse, but let’s find out:

**** the ATF.



Edit: dang, it does lol.

 

[Yup!]

Does INGO auto-censor? I don’t know because I rarely use language this coarse, but let’s find out:

**** the ATF.



Edit: dang, it does lol.

Why did you rate the ATF 4 stars?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Does INGO auto-censor? I don’t know because I rarely use language this coarse, but let’s find out:

**** the ATF.



Edit: dang, it does lol.

It does, but sometimes it lets things slide through that probably shouldn't. Best practice IMO is to check your post to see if the auto-censor worked. If it didn't (and you think you said something that would've gotten you in trouble), edit the post and use the asterisks where needed.

 

[KLB]

This is even more interesting after the ruling from the 5th circuit against the bump-stock ban. The USSC is going to have to take these cases and straighten it out one way or another. Either an agency can just make law at whim or they cannot.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

This is even more interesting after the ruling from the 5th circuit against the bump-stock ban. The USSC is going to have to take these cases and straighten it out one way or another. Either an agency can just make law at whim or they cannot.

We need a big time slap down.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Insanity.

What a large, slow-moving target.

How many stripped lowers will become SBRs now? A debacle, a complete debacle.

 

[VostocK]

I wonder how short barreled shotguns would play into this ruling. They are different classifications per the NFA but not mentioned from what Inhave read so far.

I guarantee they are coming for the Mossberg Shockwave style "firearms" next.

 

[blue2golf]

Holy smokes. 293 pages. I haven't read a quarter of it yet, but the hubris seeps through on every page. They keep repeating "objective design features" with the maniacal obsession of someone who knows their lie is so blatantly obvious that they have to keep repeating it just to try to make themselves believe it. Unless I missed it while skimming through that massive pile of vapid text, they didn't give a single darn objective measurement to go off of.

Why won't they just draw a line for us and be done with it? They ramble on and on about "objective design features" but won't give us any objective features or numbers to go off of. If they want to make a determination, that the least they could do is actually make a determination; tell us exactly how much rear surface area, what length of pull, something we can at least look at and know whether or not something is a brace or a stock.

Of course I know why they won't do that. They love this power they have, and want to hold on to it. It'd be such a shame for them if us common folk could know and figure out for ourselves what's lawful and what isn't. They'd much rather we be left in the dark, sending in every example for them to subjectively determine what is or isn't a stock (and then change that later based on irrelevant factor like "marketing" of the product) and always wondering whether or not they plan on making us felons overnight.

Exactly, they'll have you sweating it out until they decide to no-knock your door to make an example of you.

 

[Basher]

It does, but sometimes it lets things slide through that probably shouldn't. Best practice IMO is to check your post to see if the auto-censor worked. If it didn't (and you think you said something that would've gotten you in trouble), edit the post and use the asterisks where needed.

That’s what I did, lol. But thanks!