Message To Fellow Police Officers

[actaeon277]

A Governor making "law" for an "emergency".
The Legislature then suing saying that the Governor can't just make things up forever, that it's their job to make law.
Then the Governor ignoring them?

I know.
Not exactly extermination camp stuff.
But, not exactly Republic/Democracy stuff either.

 

[Pistol boy]

Idk. 10+ years as a cop and now all of a sudden change of hart? The way I see it. He wanted to retire and had a bright idea. It worked. Last I herd he was over 500k now.

 

[churchmouse]

A Governor making "law" for an "emergency".
The Legislature then suing saying that the Governor can't just make things up forever, that it's their job to make law.
Then the Governor ignoring them?

I know.
Not exactly extermination camp stuff.
But, not exactly Republic/Democracy stuff either.

Exactly.

 

[Route 45]

A Governor making "law" for an "emergency".
The Legislature then suing saying that the Governor can't just make things up forever, that it's their job to make law.
Then the Governor ignoring them?

I know.
Not exactly extermination camp stuff.
But, not exactly Republic/Democracy stuff either.

It's EXACTLY Republic/Democracy stuff. Checks and balances. If the governor is indeed ignoring the law, is there not a method in their state constitution for impeachment?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

A Governor making "law" for an "emergency".
The Legislature then suing saying that the Governor can't just make things up forever, that it's their job to make law.
Then the Governor ignoring them?

I know.
Not exactly extermination camp stuff.
But, not exactly Republic/Democracy stuff either.

That's not tyranny. The executive branch isn't the slave of the legislative branch, who isn't the slave of the executive branch. The fact the legislature (and private citizens) *can* sue and that both sides will take their case to the judiciary and abide by the result contraindicate tyranny.

 

[actaeon277]

That's not tyranny. The executive branch isn't the slave of the legislative branch, who isn't the slave of the executive branch. The fact the legislature (and private citizens) *can* sue and that both sides will take their case to the judiciary and abide by the result contraindicate tyranny.

Well, I'm in good company apparently
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wisconsins-supreme-court-strikes-down-governors-safer-at-home-order
During oral arguments last week, Justice Rebecca Bradley suggested Palm’s decision to extend the order without legislative input amounts to tyranny, according to WKOW.

 

[Route 45]

Well, I'm in good company apparently
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wisconsins-supreme-court-strikes-down-governors-safer-at-home-order
During oral arguments last week, Justice Rebecca Bradley suggested Palm’s decision to extend the order without legislative input amounts to tyranny, according to WKOW.

The entire process, with the checks and balances going on, is the very definition of how our republic is supposed to work. The fact that one of the justices is given to hyperbole doesn't change the fact that using the word "tyranny" to describe this particular situation is just so much pearl-clutching histrionics.

 

[Fargo]

That's not tyranny. The executive branch isn't the slave of the legislative branch, who isn't the slave of the executive branch. The fact the legislature (and private citizens) *can* sue and that both sides will take their case to the judiciary and abide by the result contraindicate tyranny.

The legislature makes the law, the executive executes the law that the legislature makes. Just because the legislature has a judicial remedy to the executive attempting to perform legislative functions, doesn’t mean that the executive isn’t usurping authority the constitution has prohibited from him.

What do you call it when a ruler usurps authority which does not belong to them under the law?

The founders were fine with using the word to describe taxation without representation... It’s not like they were being placed on societal house arrest and denied legislative recourse.

 

[actaeon277]

The legislature makes the law, the executive executes the law that the legislature makes. Just because the legislature has a judicial remedy to the executive attempting to perform legislative functions, doesn’t mean that the executive isn’t usurping authority the constitution has prohibited from him.

What do you call it when a ruler usurps authority which does not belong to them under the law?

The founders were fine with using the word to describe taxation without representation... It’s not like they were being placed on societal house arrest and denied legislative recourse.

I'd also like to add, it is one thing in an emergency, for a "temporary" order to be issued, and another thing when that "emergency" goes on month after month, some governors predicting it will be fall.

 

[Route 45]

The founders were fine with using the word to describe taxation without representation... It’s not like they were being placed on societal house arrest and denied legislative recourse.

* Reads Declaration of Independence *

Pretty sure it wasn't just taxation without representation.

 

[Fargo]

* Reads Declaration of Independence *

Pretty sure it wasn't just taxation without representation.

So, you’re going to tell me that you know nothing of the famous American historical phrase “Taxation without representation is tyranny”, nevermind the Stamp Act Congress etc.?

If you missed that portion in history class, Google is your friend.

 

[Route 45]

I'm familiar with the old 1700's slogan. The fact remains that the entirety of the grievances more readily amounted to tyranny than your single favorite point. We haven't reached real "tyranny" yet, and to howl that word at this point makes one look like a fool.

Besides, I asked TT what he thought tyranny was. Still curious after hearing from those carrying his water.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

What do you call it when a ruler usurps authority which does not belong to them under the law?

Is this the first time in US history that there's a question of executive power vs legislative power? Or was every example of what was eventually shown to be executive overreach "tyranny"? Are there sometimes legitimate questions, with good arguments on both sides, of where the executive authority ends? Let's say, oh, sending troops without a declaration of war? Tyranny? Are you suggesting the state congress will need to take up arms to override executive overreach?

I'm also curious as to when in the US taxation came with representation without exception. Tyranny to this day, no doubt. Tyranny and socialism.

 

[Brad69]

How about locking up journalists and the Maryland state Legislature?

 

[bwframe]

Ohio officer...

[video=youtube;ztmFkK0jkRc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztmFkK0jkRc[/video]

 

[ljk]

[video=youtube_share;-taU9d26wT4]https://youtu.be/-taU9d26wT4[/video]

 

[Trigger Time]

Na, I'm just not going to take your bait to argue. I've always been fully open about my views and opinions on here.
If you dont feel the same way as I do over this, good for you.
The fact is there will always be those who will turn a blind eye to a governments oppression. History doesn't lie.
Checks and balances don't mean anything when all of the branches of that government are corrupt.
Even the law enforcement branches of that government are corrupt and criminal at the top.
If you (i mean that in general terms) cant see it you either have blinders on or you are part of the corruption.

 

[bwframe]

[video=youtube;w5hHKR9yXVk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hHKR9yXVk[/video]

 

[Sigblitz]

Ut oh. Is everyone diving in swords now?

 

[JettaKnight]

[video=youtube;w5hHKR9yXVk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hHKR9yXVk[/video]

"My name is XXX XXXX, and after seeing another video from a fellow officer [and how much money he made]..."



I don't go and ask my doctor about a court case, so I certainly don't need a cop prattling on about medicine.




And let me get this straight - after all the shenanigans NY's been doing over gun control, this is what gets him to speak up?
And is anyone else bothered by trotting out his service record?

Ut oh. Is everyone diving in swords now?

There's big money to be made. Even if you don't score big on GoBegMe, you can start your own YouTube channel pontificating on all the things that grinds your gears.