LTCH 5 year vs Lifetime

[04FXSTS]

Ahh I didn’t know there was ever a price difference in the past.

That is why I got the five year first. When we moved here two years ago we had a new home and still owned the old home over in Illinois so money was tight. We finally got all our Illinois property sold so I got the lifetime last year, will probably let the five year lapse. Applied for the 5 year just before it went free and the same with the lifetime, oh well. Jim.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

That is why I got the five year first. When we moved here two years ago we had a new home and still owned the old home over in Illinois so money was tight. We finally got all our Illinois property sold so I got the lifetime last year, will probably let the five year lapse. Applied for the 5 year just before it went free and the same with the lifetime, oh well. Jim.

Oh, that's rotten luck. In both cases I got mine right after they went free, so I guess I got the other end of the spectrum on luck, lol.

 

[bgcatty]

Looks like a non-issue come July 1st I think.

 

[KG1]

I usually slip a LEO a $5'er with my DL to get out of a ticket.

 

[VERT]

Why wouldn’t you get the lifetime?

At one time there was talk about the 5 year 1) possibly adding more states because some places didn’t like the idea of lifetime. So better reciprocity. Far ad know that is not the case. 2) that it could be used in place of a NICS check. Again not been an issue for me and also not the case.

So lifetime makes more sense.

Years ago I was asked by a state legislator what my opinion was for creating a reciprocity license. He asked a group of real gun guys. Something along the lines of what they have in Kentucky or Florida. He was surprised when we said no, because who makes the rules and what keeps them from doing something stupid like Illinois. Now that we have constitutional carry and our lifetime license maybe it is time to revisit the idea. It would be nice to only carry one license. It would be even better if every state just eliminated licensing all together.

 

[VERT]

Looks like a non-issue come July 1st I think.

Not really. Reciprocity. As long as you don’t leave Indiana then yeah it’s a non-issue.

 

[xwing]

At one time there was talk about the 5 year 1) possibly adding more states because some places didn’t like the idea of lifetime. So better reciprocity. Far ad know that is not the case. 2) that it could be used in place of a NICS check. Again not been an issue for me and also not the case.

So lifetime makes more sense.

Years ago I was asked by a state legislator what my opinion was for creating a reciprocity license. He asked a group of real gun guys. Something along the lines of what they have in Kentucky or Florida. He was surprised when we said no, because who makes the rules and what keeps them from doing something stupid like Illinois. Now that we have constitutional carry and our lifetime license maybe it is time to revisit the idea. It would be nice to only carry one license. It would be even better if every state just eliminated licensing all together.

It would be nice if Indiana offered an "enhanced" license like Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Mississippi, or Tennessee. Now that there is no point within the state, it would be great to have a license whose only purpose is reciprocity. On the "enhanced" license, go ahead and require training, health records, etc... Those who don't travel extensively wouldn't bother, but those who do would be willing to jump through the hoops in order to be recognized in many more states.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

At one time there was talk about the 5 year 1) possibly adding more states because some places didn’t like the idea of lifetime. So better reciprocity. Far ad know that is not the case. 2) that it could be used in place of a NICS check. Again not been an issue for me and also not the case.

So lifetime makes more sense.

Years ago I was asked by a state legislator what my opinion was for creating a reciprocity license. He asked a group of real gun guys. Something along the lines of what they have in Kentucky or Florida. He was surprised when we said no, because who makes the rules and what keeps them from doing something stupid like Illinois. Now that we have constitutional carry and our lifetime license maybe it is time to revisit the idea. It would be nice to only carry one license. It would be even better if every state just eliminated licensing all together.

Tennessee was playing around with the idea of allowing holders of their enhanced license to have extra-special privileges. I think the proposed law would allow the holders to be able to carry about anywhere -- almost the same as, if not exactly the same as, LEOs. I don't know where that ended up. I don't think I would support something like that here.

 

[VERT]

Tennessee was playing around with the idea of allowing holders of their enhanced license to have extra-special privileges. I think the proposed law would allow the holders to be able to carry about anywhere -- almost the same as, if not exactly the same as, LEOs. I don't know where that ended up. I don't think I would support something like that here.

I certainly wouldn’t support it before July 1st, 2022. I would not support elimination of the lifetime license. I would be open minded regarding an enhanced license renewed every 5 years. Especially if it enhanced our ability to carry firearms.

 

[STEEL CORE]

Constitutional carry as of 1 July 2022, applies to Indiana residents, so if you leave the state, you will need a current Indiana 5 yr or Lifetime license to carry to allow you to follow the rules and carry in those states that have agreements with both states that allow you to carry in their state.
Telling a Michigan State Trooper that you don't have a current Indiana License to Carry a Handgun permit after you cross the state line off I-69 into Michigan is not going to work. Get a license to carry and be done with it.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I certainly wouldn’t support it before July 1st, 2022. I would not support elimination of the lifetime license. I would be open minded regarding an enhanced license renewed every 5 years. Especially if it enhanced our ability to carry firearms.

I understand the compunction. I'm not sure it's a good idea to further cement the idea that some people are more worthy to exercise their rights in more and better ways than others, simply because they were able to jump through more hoops than others.

 

[Brian's Surplus]

So I see IN is going to join the ranks of states that allow lawful carry without a license. Great! My son turns 18 in about 2 weeks and I am glad to see this change. Regardless He is interested in applying for his license. So….

5 year vs Lifetime? I see they are now both fee exempt. The 5 years is not exempt from NICS. To my knowledge there is no advantages from a reciprocity standpoint. Anybody have the skinny on why he would apply for one over the other?

I'm not sure, but I feel like I heard somewhere that some states require recertification every 5 years for reciprocity. My understanding was that was the reason for going from a 4 year to a 5 year license. If I understand correctly, a lifetime license would not offer reciprocity in some states after 5 years.

 

[VERT]

I understand the compunction. I'm not sure it's a good idea to further cement the idea that some people are more worthy to exercise their rights in more and better ways than others, simply because they were able to jump through more hoops than others.

But we already do that. I could go down to the local Sheriffs office and volunteer my time as a reserve deputy and then be allowed to carry a handgun in places I currently can not. No dig on reserve officers, glad we have those guys. But I really don’t have an extra 8 hours a week to devote to such activities. (Sure the training might be fun and I would get to hang out with cool dudes. But I can already do that If I want.) So we already have a class of people who are more worthy to exercise their rights. If we as individuals are willing to take it upon ourselves to meet or exceed those standards, why shouldn’t I be able to enjoy the same ability to protect myself and my family?

 

[KittySlayer]

If you carry a gun you probably still want the license. Personally I have 3 (IN, FL, UT).

UTAH ~ oddly enough on the day Holcomb signed the bill I got a notice about renewing my Utah license. For $25 and watching a video I am tempted to renew. I have no plans to go west of the Mississippi river but I know there are a few states where UT works and IN does not.

PINK PAPER ~ does it make sense to get the pretty plastic Indiana LTCH or just stick with my pink paper? Always liked the idea of having multiple laminated copies of the pink paper but if only using my LTCH out of state foreign LEOs might have a little more faith looking at sometime more official than paper.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

But we already do that. I could go down to the local Sheriffs office and volunteer my time as a reserve deputy and then be allowed to carry a handgun in places I currently can not. No dig on reserve officers, glad we have those guys. But I really don’t have an extra 8 hours a week to devote to such activities. (Sure the training might be fun and I would get to hang out with cool dudes. But I can already do that If I want.) So we already have a class of people who are more worthy to exercise their rights. If we as individuals are willing to take it upon ourselves to meet or exceed those standards, why shouldn’t I be able to enjoy the same ability to protect myself and my family?

Right. And I'm saying we shouldn't further promote that and more deeply engrain it into our systems. Just as our current LTCH regime discriminated against the poor and disadvantaged, an enhanced license would benefit those that could afford it. Those that could not--sucks to be you. Equal weights and measures. A right is a right.

 

[VERT]

Right. And I'm saying we shouldn't further promote that and more deeply engrain it into our systems. Just as our current LTCH regime discriminated against the poor and disadvantaged, an enhanced license would benefit those that could afford it. Those that could not--sucks to be you. Equal weights and measures. A right is a right.

I’ll concede to those points as you are correct. But I’ll leave you with this thought. Who says it has to cost money or discriminate against the poor or disadvantaged? When we blindly follow that logic it leads to things like mail in ballots and accusations of stolen elections. (Please do not run with that topic!!! I only mention as an example of a recent topic.). Point is not everything needs to be automatically viewed as an infringement so long as the government is kept in check and not allowed to use it against a group of people. In this example I have no problem with free licenses whether it be drivers, ID cards or handgun.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

I usually slip a LEO a $5'er with my DL to get out of a ticket.

If you offered me a lousy 5 bucks your getting more than a ticket just for being a cheap skate.....lol

Gonna take at least a fitty...

 

[KG1]

If you offered me a lousy 5 bucks your getting more than a ticket just for being a cheap skate.....lol

Gonna take at least a fitty...

I never said that it worked.

 

[Creedmoor]

I certainly wouldn’t support it before July 1st, 2022. I would not support elimination of the lifetime license. I would be open minded regarding an enhanced license renewed every 5 years. Especially if it enhanced our ability to carry firearms.

What enhancements do you believe one should get?

 

[VERT]

What enhancements do you believe one should get?

We are way off topic now. My fault.

1) Increased reciprocity. I do not agree with any type of federal recognition of handgun licensing. This is a state matter. Feds will mess it up. Yeah it would be nice to eliminate the licenses all together but let’s be realistic.

2) No NICS at the gun counter. Fill out the 4473 and flash the pink. NICS is broken, a delay is an infringement. Shut down the computers and gun sales stop. Again we can run down a rabbit hole but let’s assume that we aren’t getting rid of some sort of background check. In fact there is more talk of universal checks.

3) I believe some States allow carry in or around schools and other areas the mere plebes are not allowed without the enhanced license. What about casinos or Corp of Engineer properties or the Post Office? Yeah it’s all a nasty web of federal vs State vs Private property. But based on the number of times I take a gun on and off my belt it would appear there are plenty of places I am not allowed to have a gun.