Not going to get into a argument with you on that. You're smart enough to exactly what it means, and exactly what response it elicits.
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The original premise is a problem.
Not going to get into a argument with you on that. You're smart enough to exactly what it means, and exactly what response it elicits.
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You think I haven't talked to JWs? Their HQ has put a big X on my house, "Don't send anyone there!"
You'd be hard pressed to find a more coercively closed collective than the KKK... yet people have walked away.
A year or two ago we were talking about #walkaway in the context of liberal democrats.
There are people open to talking.
The question to ask yourself is, "am I willing to have an open minded discussion?" Can you listen to a bunch of woke leftist speech without getting overly judgemental?
Little of that on the conservative side? What happens to people (and politicians) that defy Trump?
People on INGO accuse me and others, of all sorts of things in order to "unperson" us.
Politicians get stripped of their committees and silenced.
Solid Christians get boycotted for supporting the wrong politician.
What happens when a conservative says "black lives matter"?
The people, you know - the folks those politicians are supposed to represent - either retire them or other politicians do it for us because they can see the moving fingerYou think I haven't talked to JWs? Their HQ has put a big X on my house, "Don't send anyone there!"
You'd be hard pressed to find a more coercively closed collective than the KKK... yet people have walked away.
A year or two ago we were talking about #walkaway in the context of liberal democrats.
There are people open to talking.
The question to ask yourself is, "am I willing to have an open minded discussion?" Can you listen to a bunch of woke leftist speech without getting overly judgemental?
[No. I can't even stand to listen to people cite NPR as if it was 30 years ago when they weren't so obviously biased]
Little of that on the conservative side? What happens to people (and politicians) that defy Trump?
Ahem. Speaking of being castigated for supporting the wrong politician, I just couldn't begin to guess how that might feel, there, kemosabePeople on INGO accuse me and others, of all sorts of things in order to "unperson" us.
Politicians get stripped of their committees and silenced.
Solid Christians get boycotted for supporting the wrong politician.
[We don't 'seek to unperson you', you drastically overestimate how much we care about you at all. You just seem unable to accept people will cheerfully defend Trump from snipers - you have to see a genuine affection for the man and what he accomplished in terms of worship or a cult because YOU can't accept any other explanation for it. It is your world view that seems like it would be a bit claustrophobic. You unperson yourself, we just are stuck having to bear witness]
They lose all credibilityWhat happens when a conservative says "black lives matter"?
What happens when a conservative says "black lives matter"?
They lose all credibility
Do you think that being murdered by agents of government is an infringement of any individual right?As for a conservative supporting BLM? Conservatives are supposed to value individual rights and property rights. If they fail that most basic test for conservatism, then I don't know what to tell you.
Do you think burning down the business of someone that had absolutely nothing to do with your perceived injustice is an infringement of any individual right?Do you think that being murdered by agents of government is an infringement of any individual right?
The problem with that is two people are doing it for show (and money, and power). That's not two people sitting and talking over a delicious Hawaiian pizza.
Do you think that being murdered by agents of government is an infringement of any individual right?
That’s astonishingly reductive. C’mon man. You can give a reply that represents the reality of both sides better than that.Do you think that being murdered by agents of government is an infringement of any individual right?
No. The "peaceful protestors" have a right to burn and loot ****.Do you think burning down the business of someone that had absolutely nothing to do with your perceived injustice is an infringement of any individual right?
Oh that's right... it's "reparations" and besides, the business owners have insurance. I forgot.No. The "peaceful protestors" have a right to burn and loot ****.
Well the corporate businesses sure seem to enjoy itOh that's right... it's "reparations" and besides, the business owners have insurance. I forgot.
Peace credits are given when you’re oppressed as an entire race when a Black man is killed by police, regardless of circumstances. And then you may riot, destroy property, loot, assault innocent people, engage in whatever other non-peaceful activities you care to do, and cash in your peace credits so that you may be counted among peaceful protesters.No. The "peaceful protestors" have a right to burn and loot ****.
Burning businesses and buildings used to be a crime called arson, now it is a financially successful business model of blm.
As long been my position, I think that both sides have merit: vandalism is bad and unacceptable, and police shouldn't be executing citizens. It's not an issue of "yea, but..." it's an issue of "yes, and..."That’s astonishingly reductive. C’mon man. You can give a reply that represents the reality of both sides better than that.
Police execute citizens? Don’t you think that’s hyperbole? In some of the use of force instances I think there was excessive force. I’ve been pretty vocal that I think Chauvin was guilty of manslaughter 2, but not murder. So do you think it was murder? Do you think that it was racially motivated? Or, how about this. List the instances where you think that white cops killed someone who is black, and it was because of race that the person was killed. And the we can talk about that.As long been my position, I think that both sides have merit: vandalism is bad and unacceptable, and police shouldn't be executing citizens. It's not an issue of "yea, but..." it's an issue of "yes, and..."
I'm wondering if the "conservatives" on here are willing to admit that there is a problem with instances of law enforcement use of force in this country. Is there any legitimacy to the idea that lives of black people in this country are not valued to the same level as lives of white people?
lolAs long been my position, I think that both sides have merit: vandalism is bad and unacceptable, and police shouldn't be executing citizens. It's not an issue of "yea, but..." it's an issue of "yes, and..."
I'm wondering if the "conservatives" on here are willing to admit that there is a problem with instances of law enforcement use of force in this country. Is there any legitimacy to the idea that lives of black people in this country are not valued to the same level as lives of white people?
There is some truth to this.