Leaked/breaking:Roe v. Wade expected to be overturned

[chipbennett]

But to get back to the whole rape exception thing, imagine now what this looks like from the perspective of the abortionist. We're basically saying to him, okay here's this human baby who is perfectly innocent and has a right to life, so if you kill him/her we're going to punish you under the law. Oh wait, this baby's father allegedly committed a crime? Never mind, break out the scissors and dismember away!

Keep in mind: I don't personally agree with a rape exception, to begin with.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

Keep in mind: I don't personally agree with a rape exception, to begin with.

Yes, sorry, I know you've stated that before, so I guess the last part of my comment was mostly an "in general" type of thing, and not really directed at you.

 

[ghuns]

That tweet crystalizes the insanity we are witnessing in 2022.

Insane for sure.

But think of the absolute bedlam if someone actually DID this and managed to kill several justices.

I don't think there'd be any coming back from it, as a country.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Insane for sure.

But think of the absolute bedlam if someone actually DID this and managed to kill several justices.

I don't think there'd be any coming back from it, as a country.

Frightening for sure... uncharted territory. Especially if the .gov's abc's dont take some of these crazies seriously.

 

[rooster]

liberals have no problem using the courts when it’s convenient for them as long as the court agrees with them

https://www.wishtv.com/news/nationa...texas-clinics-after-court-blocks-pre-roe-ban/

 

[chipbennett]

liberals have no problem using the courts when it’s convenient for them as long as the court agrees with them

https://www.wishtv.com/news/nationa...texas-clinics-after-court-blocks-pre-roe-ban/

I wonder what the possible justification for the stay is, post-Roe?

 

[AndreusMaximus]

I wonder what the possible justification for the stay is, post-Roe?

Feelings don't care about your facts?

 

[HoughMade]

liberals have no problem using the courts when it’s convenient for them as long as the court agrees with them

https://www.wishtv.com/news/nationa...texas-clinics-after-court-blocks-pre-roe-ban/

I mean....over the pas 60 years, the left has used the courts to create rights out of nothing more than they have used legislative process.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

If an abortion is murder then all parties a party to it are guilty. Women that willingly submit themselves to an abortion, the brutal murder of another human being, are just as guilty as the “doctor” performing the procedure. He’s just the hired hit-man.

 

[MCgrease08]

I wonder what the possible justification for the stay is, post-Roe?

One might hope the article would include those facts, but it's a CNN report, so it's almost certainly going to not include any actual journalism.

 

[foszoe]

Florida's new abortion law violates religious freedom, a synagogue's lawsuit says

The suit contends the law violates Jewish teachings, which state abortion "is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman" and for other reasons.

www.npr.org

An interesting lawsuit

 

[BugI02]

So, there are other religions under whose 'teachings' a woman who engages in sex outside of marriage would be stoned to death

Does that mean they would have standing to bring a lawsuit because said law doesn't punish the mother enough?

Can't see I see the legal logic of any such a claim

 

[HoughMade]

Florida's new abortion law violates religious freedom, a synagogue's lawsuit says

The suit contends the law violates Jewish teachings, which state abortion "is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman" and for other reasons.

www.npr.org

An interesting lawsuit

Good luck with that...actually, I don't wish them good luck at all.

 

[HoughMade]

If an abortion is murder then all parties a party to it are guilty. Women that willingly submit themselves to an abortion, the brutal murder of another human being, are just as guilty as the “doctor” performing the procedure. He’s just the hired hit-man.

That's philosophically consistent and if you want to advocate for that, feel free. However, there is nothing to say that a legislature can't make a distinction.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

That's philosophically consistent and if you want to advocate for that, feel free. However, there is nothing to say that a legislature can't make a distincti

Get a bunch of lawyers and politicians in a room and there’s no doubt in my mind they can.

 

[HoughMade]

Get a bunch of lawyers and politicians in a room and there’s no doubt in my mind they can.

In this case, my goal is saving lives, not punishment of a woman in a bad situation. Abortionists are another matter.

 

[Cameramonkey]

If you carve out for rape as an example, what do you do with the mother afterwards if the rape claim was false? Also does this allow for a premeditated murder charge for the woman?
If a rape is claimed, must there be formal charges against A man before that claim can be used for an abortion? Must the man be convicted before that claim can be used for an abortion? What happens if said trial is delayed more than 9 months? Exactly how deep are we willing to “nuance” a carve out in a law that would allow for children that can’t protect themselves from harm, be murdered?

This proves my point that its a complex issue that wont be properly served by throwing together a law overnight because they just happen to be in a special session.

 

[jamil]

One of the ways you minimize the chances of a 'next time' is you give it to them so bad the first time that they won't want a 'next time'

There’s a scale of how bad they got it vs how brainwashed they are. So maximum brainwash requires maximum “give it to them”.

 

[HoughMade]

This proves my point that its a complex issue that wont be properly served by throwing together a law overnight because they just happen to be in a special session.

If all they do is change "20 weeks" to 8 or 10, they will have made a big difference.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

In this case, my goal is saving lives, not punishment of a woman in a bad situation. Abortionists are another matter.

Saving lives is paramount. Equal justice is important too.