July 4th parade shooting, Highland Park, IL

[JAL]

Highland Park banned assault weapons a decade ago.​

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If only Indiana would enact all the same laws . . . oh, wait, he didn't buy them in an Indiana Gun Show . . . never mind.

John

 

[JAL]

Without even seeing the details, I would have said that they were at least a significant part of the problem.

They pretty much always are with a murderer of this age.

His father and uncle were "enablers" of his sociopathy and psychopathy. His mother is a piece of work. After watching her behavior with the cameras rolling, I fully understand why the father split with her . . . notwithstanding his deep flaws.

John

 

[Cameramonkey]

And another day goes by without them revealing the weapon...

 

[KellyinAvon]

And another day goes by without them revealing the weapon...

Tells me it was the Sub 2000.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

And another day goes by without them revealing the weapon...

I thought it was the M&P 15?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Tells me it was the Sub 2000.

I thought that's what he had in his car and took to Madison, WI?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I thought that's what he had in his car and took to Madison, WI?

Correct.

Unless he bought two...

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Correct.

Unless he bought two...

I thought they already accounted for the gun purchases? 4 long guns and 1 handgun.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I thought they already accounted for the gun purchases? 4 long guns and 1 handgun.

during the press conference they said he bought:
the murder weapon (they have so far refused to ID it any more than that)
sub2000
870
remington 700
I dont recall them mentioning a handgun.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I thought that's what he had in his car and took to Madison, WI?

This is so confusing...

 

[KG1]

during the press conference they said he bought:
the murder weapon (they have so far refused to ID it any more than that)
sub2000
870
remington 700
I dont recall them mentioning a handgun.

They haven't come out at a press conference, but they have identified it as an M&P15 Twice. I posted about it upthread.

 

[KG1]

Illinois State Police director defends decision to give suspected Highland Park killer a gun permit in 2020

Brendan Kelly said there was no evidence of a “clear and present danger” that could have supported denying Robert E. Crimo III’s request.

chicago.suntimes.com

The state police approved Crimo III’s request for a firearm owner’s identification card in January 2020

The next month, he bought the Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle authorities say he used in the Independence Day mass shooting, Brandon Kelly, director of the Illinois State Police, said Wednesday.

Police said they recovered the M&P15 rifle in downtown Highland Park and another rifle in a car that Crimo was stopped in hours later on U.S. 41.

The gun used in Monday’s mass shooting was an AR-15-style Smith & Wesson semiautomatic rifle whose initials, M&P, stand for military and police. A Lake County prosecutor identified the make and model of the firearm at a court hearing Wednesday for Crimo, 21, who was ordered held without bail on murder charges.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Illinois State Police director defends decision to give suspected Highland Park killer a gun permit in 2020

Brendan Kelly said there was no evidence of a “clear and present danger” that could have supported denying Robert E. Crimo III’s request.

chicago.suntimes.com

Missed that, thanks. I only recalled it being a suspected model.

 

[KG1]

Missed that, thanks. I only recalled it being a suspected model.

Yeah, I wasn't sure either. I was seeing a lot of chatter about it being an M&P15 so I just did a goggle search about the firearm that was used in the July 4th massacre in Highland Park and I found that info.

 

[jamil]

Nevermind

 

[MCgrease08]

Illinois State Police director defends decision to give suspected Highland Park killer a gun permit in 2020

Brendan Kelly said there was no evidence of a “clear and present danger” that could have supported denying Robert E. Crimo III’s request.

chicago.suntimes.com

"Military and Police"

See, it's a weapon of war!!!

 

[Ark]

Illinois State Police director defends decision to give suspected Highland Park killer a gun permit in 2020

Brendan Kelly said there was no evidence of a “clear and present danger” that could have supported denying Robert E. Crimo III’s request.

chicago.suntimes.com

I mean... yeah. There are criteria and he met them at the time of application, for a license that shouldn't exist under the Constitution. Not seeing the problem in that regard.

 

[KG1]

"Military and Police"

See, it's a weapon of war!!!

S&W sure teed it up for the anti's to exploit with that marketing line.

 

[BigRed]

Any folks here have a Sub2000?

Looks like a decent carbine.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Any folks here have a Sub2000?

Looks like a decent carbine.

Until it breaks.

There are reports of (especially the non-black versions) the receiver breaking at the pivot pin.

Cool range toy, but I wouldnt trust one.

EDIT: MULTIPLE issues. While looking for an example pic, I discovered more than just the pivot breaks. Another recall as well. Worse than I thought.