H.R. 1 "For The People Act" or more appropriately "The End to Free and Fair Elections".

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    Hopefully, this is just another bill passed along to the Senate that results in a good laugh at the bat:poop: crazy house libs?

    Like multiple "impeachments":rolleyes:, and other foolish woke issues brought forth by the loons.
     
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    Election cheating has been around for a long time and in many cases we just put up with it. Look at Chicago, everybody just expects it and to a degree laughs at it, sort of a national joke. Fraud and machines are everywhere even small towns, what's different this time is that a lot of it was pulled together with big money into a common cause that not only worked, but is seemingly invulnerable to investigation or prosecution. Are we headed to the entire country being run like Chicago or Tammany Hall? At the end of that is 1984 or the French Revolution.

    I see mexico as the model for the future of the US having spent a fair amount of time there and " the speech of the chickens" is why.

    This is the American people's fault! We just kept letting it happen until they stole a presidential election. Everybody knows that Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and most urban cities are corrupt. We joke about it, jokes about dead voting and the like but we never demanded it be cleaned up. We allowed this to get here, complacent, fearful of being called names, just a bunch of pu****s

    Side point, if everyone knows the urban centers cheat why the denials they stole the election? Why denials of investigation? Because about half of republicans refused to join those calling for investigation because they feared messing up their cushy lives, that's why. If all 74 million Trump voters had stood up and said we aren't going to take this the outcome would have been different.

    It's not the Biden voters I despise most, it is those that claim to be republican or conservative that failed to demand the election be looked into...
     

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    This is the American people's fault! We just kept letting it happen until they stole a presidential election. Everybody knows that Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and most urban cities are corrupt. We joke about it, jokes about dead voting and the like but we never demanded it be cleaned up. We allowed this to get here, complacent, fearful of being called names, just a bunch of pu****s
    The constitution solely empowers state legislatures to control their elections for federal office. If the state legislature is dominated by big city politics, such as in NY and IL, exactly how can you get those crooked cities to clean up the problem? If you advocate for more federal control of elections you are doing the Democrat/H.R.1 work for them. We don't need to wait to see how that bad idea could be used against us

    You can't blame 'the American people' for something they do not necessarily have the tools and levers to control. Expend that angst brainstorming how the existing structures can be used creatively to change those conditions - and , no, I don't have an answer to that question
     

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    The constitution solely empowers state legislatures to control their elections for federal office. If the state legislature is dominated by big city politics, such as in NY and IL, exactly how can you get those crooked cities to clean up the problem? If you advocate for more federal control of elections you are doing the Democrat/H.R.1 work for them. We don't need to wait to see how that bad idea could be used against us

    You can't blame 'the American people' for something they do not necessarily have the tools and levers to control. Expend that angst brainstorming how the existing structures can be used creatively to change those conditions - and , no, I don't have an answer to that question
    To start with, they could pass legislation stating that although states have control of their own elections, their lack of controlling authentication of legal votes cannot overturn an election that effects the whole country.

    They can cheat their own state and people all day every day if they want. When they start cheating ours, it's a problem. And here we are...
     

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    The constitution solely empowers state legislatures to control their elections for federal office. If the state legislature is dominated by big city politics, such as in NY and IL, exactly how can you get those crooked cities to clean up the problem? If you advocate for more federal control of elections you are doing the Democrat/H.R.1 work for them. We don't need to wait to see how that bad idea could be used against us

    You can't blame 'the American people' for something they do not necessarily have the tools and levers to control. Expend that angst brainstorming how the existing structures can be used creatively to change those conditions - and , no, I don't have an answer to that question
    It is not the people's role to do the job, just to demand it be done. The dead voting for example is NOT controlled by the legislature. And I believe the Feds have the authority to investigate election fraud in federal elections and maybe all elections because of the violations of civil rights...

    There are options, if they were forced by the people to stop the fraud, they figured out how to go after the mob. When the fraud becomes just a joke we have accepted it as a people...
     

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    There needs to be EXTREMELY clear federal guidelines of EXACTLY what is acceptable for an election to affect the nation.

    We need very clear rules that specify when courts are involved and make rulings. No more does a chief justice get to decide he is more afraid of riots than not doing his job.
     
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    To start with, they could pass legislation stating that although states have control of their own elections, their lack of controlling authentication of legal votes cannot overturn an election that effects the whole country.

    They can cheat their own state and people all day every day if they want. When they start cheating ours, it's a problem. And here we are...
    The SC did not want to have any part of this when suits were filed saying in effect that States have no standing to sue other States over how they conduct their elections even though it can have an effect on national federal elections which is the whole reason the suits were filed in the first place.

    Not sure how they feel about the Feds filing suit against the States. I believe there were a number of people that wanted the Feds to file suit when the SC shot down the States suit.

    They never did to my knowledge.
     
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